John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org

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And, by the way, my name is spelled "Pegg" with two "g's" so please stop trying to hijack my identity and put your words in my mouth, Whooter.  For the record, it was Whooter posing as me in the past few posts and I did not say those things.  It's just another example of how cowardly he is when he can't use his won name but tries to steal other people's identities.  I support the idea that Whooter and DJ settle things in the ring, like men, to raise money for the kids, but I think Whooter is really genuinely afraid of it.

[Whooter]

First off I’d like to say you post a good argument and if you are the same poster on the other threads I agree with you mostly.  But I would like to say that I have been reading here awhile and know for a fact that Dysfunction Junction is a good guy at heart.  He just gets out of hand sometimes when he loses an argument.  He worked in a program years ago and believes them to be abusive but isn’t articulate enough to express what he is feeling so he resorts to violence and name calling when he loses an argument.  I saw the post where he wanted to punch you out, but again this is a result of his frustration in lack of communication skills.  He has gained credibility here by telling everyone that he is a mental health professional but we all know that professionals in this field don’t resolve their differences through violence and name calling.
Give the guy some space and understand that he is frustrated and angry towards the industry.
  He is not a bad guy and is just looking for people to understand what he went thru.

Thank you Peg, I think you nailed him, although, I dont think he is a mental health professional as you stated.  He may work in the field but not in a professional capacity which is obvious by the way he handles conflict and communicates.  He is just upset because no one wants to meet him in California, the job market is down, most people disagree with him and HLA is coming back under a new name.  So, I agree with you that we all need to give him some space to vent and he then he will go back to his job search soon enough.

A friend of my son was this way.  He always wanted to settle an argument by hitting people and this carried over into his adult life.  To this day he cannot handle it when he is proven wrong or when people disagree with him.  Violence is just ingrained in some people.  Like I said I dont think this Dysfunction Junction is a bad guy he just doesnt know what to do with his anger or how to properly direct it.  It is good to see people like you on here who can keep their cool.

[Whooter]

First off I’d like to say you post a good argument and if you are the same poster on the other threads I agree with you mostly.  But I would like to say that I have been reading here awhile and know for a fact that Dysfunction Junction is a good guy at heart.  He just gets out of hand sometimes when he loses an argument.  He worked in a program years ago and believes them to be abusive but isn’t articulate enough to express what he is feeling so he resorts to violence and name calling when he loses an argument.  I saw the post where he wanted to punch you out, but again this is a result of his frustration in lack of communication skills.  He has gained credibility here by telling everyone that he is a mental health professional but we all know that professionals in this field don’t resolve their differences through violence and name calling.
Give the guy some space and understand that he is frustrated and angry towards the industry.
  He is not a bad guy and is just looking for people to understand what he went thru.

Thank you Peg, I think you nailed him, although, I dont think he is a mental health professional as you stated.  He may work in the field but not in a professional capacity which is obvious by the way he handles conflict and communicates.  He is just upset because no one wants to meet him in California, the job market is down, most people disagree with him and HLA is coming back under a new name.  So, I agree with you that we all need to give him some space to vent and he then he will go back to his job search soon enough.

A friend of my son was this way.  He always wanted to settle an argument by hitting people and this carried over into his adult life.  To this day he cannot handle it when he is proven wrong or when people disagree with him.  Violence is just ingrained in some people.  Like I said I dont think this Dysfunction Junction  is a bad guy he just doesnt know what to do with his anger or how to properly direct it.  It is good to see people like you on here who can keep their cool.

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Awww...Whooter is too afwaid of big bad DJ the bookworm to raise money for STICC.

Sorta fits his moniker of "coward" huh?  Big and tough on message board but tucks tail and slinks away from real confrontation, even to raise money for the kids he claims to want to help.  He'll help as long as he doesn't actually have to DO anything.  True colors revealed again.  Whooter is a fwaidy-cat!

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Awww...Whooter is too afwaid of big bad DJ the bookworm to raise money for STICC.

Sorta fits his moniker of "coward" huh?  Big and tough on message board but tucks tail and slinks away from real confrontation, even to raise money for the kids he claims to want to help.  He'll help as long as he doesn't actually have to DO anything.  True colors revealed again.  Whooter is a fwaidy-cat!

Probably afraid some of the kids he gave the STICC to will be there, looking to return some "charity".  

You have to understand Reuben.  He was sent to military academy as a kid and thinks the best way to raise a teen is to send them away, it's family tradition.  Look what the family tradition has done to Reuben, and he still keeps telling himself it is a good thing.  Loser.

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Yeah, I think we all knew in advance that when the rubber hit the road Whooter would punk out.  I'm still up for a charity boxing match though and have gym space on reserve and a state licensed referee and physician (required by law to have a fight) ready to go if he decides to man up for the first time in his life.

I'm actually nursing a broken left hand currently from a recent kickboxing bout, but I'd be willing to fight one-handed to get this match going.

"The Bookworm vs. The Joggernaut" can only happen if Whooter finds a way to overcome his cowardice (shout out to RobertBruce for nailing that on the head repeatedly).

Well, you know where to find me, weakling, if you grow some stones and really want to help some kids.

[Whooter]

Yeah, I think we all knew in advance that when the rubber hit the road Whooter would punk out.  I'm still up for a charity boxing match though and have gym space on reserve and a state licensed referee and physician (required by law to have a fight) ready to go if he decides to man up for the first time in his life.

I'm actually nursing a broken left hand currently from a recent kickboxing bout, but I'd be willing to fight one-handed to get this match going.

"The Bookworm vs. The Joggernaut" can only happen if Whooter finds a way to overcome his cowardice (shout out to RobertBruce for nailing that on the head repeatedly).

Well, you know where to find me, weakling, if you grow some stones and really want to help some kids.

Now, how many would have guessed that DJ would react this way to losing an argument?  He wants to punch people out or get them mad like him so that they will fight.  Stooping to RobertBruces level of calling people a coward as an attempt to get a reaction.

Is this how a professional mental health person would suggest dealing with conflict?  Does a lack of debating skills really need to be handled this way?

I have to side with whooter on this one.  I agree with almost nothing whooter says but at least he keeps his cool and is able to communicate how he feels and poses a good argument most of the time.

[Anonymous]

"In 2004, when I found out Michael had drug problems, I founded Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative to help disadvantaged youths participate in programs too expensive for them."

John, when you discovered Mike had a drug problem, instead of founding STICC to help other kids, you should have supported your son by getting him medically-based treatment for his drug problem.  Why would anyone faced with this situation start a business instead of focusing on their own child's problem?  Don't you see that your refusal to get directly involved in Mike's life is what drove him to drugs in the first place?  Then your solution to this was to have him locked up instead of put into scientifically proven therapy?

John, is this one of the "STICCy results that last a lifetime"?  I guess it is if "lifetime" means "22 years."

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Geez, Whooter, you can't even man up enough to personally say you are afraid to do it.  You have to pull out a sympathetic anon "guest."  I always knew you weren't much of a man, but I didn't think you were this weak.  RobertBruce has had your number for a looooong time.  No wonder it stings so bad when he calls you a "coward."  The truth hurts the most.

I think everyone knew this is how it would go.

And yes, I'm so unable to communicate that I've been published in several major magazines, notably over a dozen times in Rolling Stone.  If you knew my identity you could easily verify this through a quick Google search of my very unusual surname.

Let me know when you grow some onions, Whootie.  I'll be here.

In the meantime, I'll be mass emailing all of my regulatory contacts with the great news about Oregon's DHS findings that Aspen's programs are by definition child abuse.

Which parts of the Aspen program did you feel were most beneficial to your kid?  The simulated-fellatio-on-underage-boys part or the humiliating dress-up-like-a-hooker-and-get-called-a-slut-and-whore-by-staff-while-forced-to-lapdance-for-the-underage-boys part?

You are one seriously sick individual to support this nasty sexualized serial child abuse.

[Whooter]

Yeah, I think we all knew in advance that when the rubber hit the road Whooter would punk out.  I'm still up for a charity boxing match though and have gym space on reserve and a state licensed referee and physician (required by law to have a fight) ready to go if he decides to man up for the first time in his life.

I'm actually nursing a broken left hand currently from a recent kickboxing bout, but I'd be willing to fight one-handed to get this match going.

"The Bookworm vs. The Joggernaut" can only happen if Whooter finds a way to overcome his cowardice (shout out to RobertBruce for nailing that on the head repeatedly).

Well, you know where to find me, weakling, if you grow some stones and really want to help some kids.

Now, how many would have guessed that DJ would react this way to losing an argument?  He wants to punch people out or get them mad like him so that they will fight.  Stooping to RobertBruces level of calling people a coward as an attempt to get a reaction.

Is this how a professional mental health person would suggest dealing with conflict?  Does a lack of debating skills really need to be handled this way?

I have to side with whooter on this one.  I agree with almost nothing whooter says but at least he keeps his cool and is able to communicate how he feels and poses a good argument most of the time.

I knew this side of him early on when I witnessed him losing an argument over in the HLA forum years ago.  He threatened to clean someone’s clock when someone produced evidence which showed Dysfunction Junction has fabricated some of the facts on one of his posts.  When he was caught he wanted to meet the other person and fight him the same way he is dealing with this whooter guy.  Its a frustration level along with an inability to articulate ones feelings which leads to violence.  I believe if Dysfunction Junction could learn to utilize his voice better to back up what he believe in then he would win more arguments and wouldn’t have to resort to violence all the time.

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Link??  And since when is a charity boxing match considered "settling scores with violence"?  

I understand you want to shift the focus off being punked and sending your kid to serial organized child abusers, but we are smart enough to carry both conversations at once.

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Geez, Whooter, you can't even man up enough to personally say you are afraid to do it.  You have to pull out a sympathetic anon "guest."  I always knew you weren't much of a man, but I didn't think you were this weak.  RobertBruce has had your number for a looooong time.  No wonder it stings so bad when he calls you a "coward."  The truth hurts the most.

I think everyone knew this is how it would go.

And yes, I'm so unable to communicate that I've been published in several major magazines, notably over a dozen times in Rolling Stone.  If you knew my identity you could easily verify this through a quick Google search of my very unusual surname.

Let me know when you grow some onions, Whootie.  I'll be here.

In the meantime, I'll be mass emailing all of my regulatory contacts with the great news about Oregon's DHS findings that Aspen's programs are by definition child abuse.

Which parts of the Aspen program did you feel were most beneficial to your kid?  The simulated-fellatio-on-underage-boys part or the humiliating dress-up-like-a-hooker-and-get-called-a-slut-and-whore-by-staff-while-forced-to-lapdance-for-the-underage-boys part?

You are one seriously sick individual to support this nasty sexualized serial child abuse.

This is hilarious!!  But not the part about how TheWho sent his kid into a an abusive facility.  Now I can see why RB always calls him a coward.  He's a natural pantywaist!!

[Whooter]

Yeah, I think we all knew in advance that when the rubber hit the road Whooter would punk out.  I'm still up for a charity boxing match though and have gym space on reserve and a state licensed referee and physician (required by law to have a fight) ready to go if he decides to man up for the first time in his life.

I'm actually nursing a broken left hand currently from a recent kickboxing bout, but I'd be willing to fight one-handed to get this match going.

"The Bookworm vs. The Joggernaut" can only happen if Whooter finds a way to overcome his cowardice (shout out to RobertBruce for nailing that on the head repeatedly).

Well, you know where to find me, weakling, if you grow some stones and really want to help some kids.

Now, how many would have guessed that DJ would react this way to losing an argument?  He wants to punch people out or get them mad like him so that they will fight.  Stooping to RobertBruces level of calling people a coward as an attempt to get a reaction.

Is this how a professional mental health person would suggest dealing with conflict?  Does a lack of debating skills really need to be handled this way?

I have to side with whooter on this one.  I agree with almost nothing whooter says but at least he keeps his cool and is able to communicate how he feels and poses a good argument most of the time.

I knew this side of him early on when I witnessed him losing an argument over in the HLA forum years ago.  He threatened to clean someone’s clock when someone produced evidence which showed Dysfunction Junction has fabricated some of the facts on one of his posts.  When he was caught he wanted to meet the other person and fight him the same way he is dealing with this whooter guy.  Its a frustration level along with an inability to articulate ones feelings which leads to violence.  I believe if Dysfunction Junction could learn to utilize his voice better to back up what he believe in then he would win more arguments and wouldn’t have to resort to violence all the time.

Hey, I remember that post too.  I knew Dysfunction Junction had a short fuse but I was surprised that he wanted to fight the guy because he was proven wrong.  I thought he had matured since then,that was years ago.  He cleaned up his image here on fornits since those times.  Telling us he went back to school and all.  But I doubt it now based on how he is carry-on, calling people cowards and wanting to fight them.
 
Is this how a mental health professional acts?  I think this may be why he seems to be always looking for work.

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No link, because it never happened.  This is pretty sad that you accuse DJ of these things, but have no evidence of it.  I guess when you're a total coward, this is all you have.

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No link, because it never happened.  This is pretty sad that you accuse DJ of these things, but have no evidence of it.  I guess when you're a total coward, this is all you have.

This is his M.O.  He wants desperately to avoid the fact that yet another Aspen program was cited for child abuse and forcibly closed.  Oh, and also that he's proven RobertBruce to be correct about his cowardice.  He is also avoiding his new claims today that there have been multiple university studies performed on programs and that they showed programs were effective and that these studies were published in the universities' science journals - an obvious whopper of a lie.  

He's just spinning his wheels, desperate to change the subject from his own cowardice and lying and Aspen's proven child abuse.