John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org

[Anonymous]

"In 2004, when I found out Michael had drug problems, I founded Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative to help disadvantaged youths participate in programs too expensive for them."

John, when you discovered Mike had a drug problem, instead of founding STICC to help other kids, you should have supported your son by getting him medically-based treatment for his drug problem.  Why would anyone faced with this situation start a business instead of focusing on their own child's problem?  Don't you see that your refusal to get directly involved in Mike's life is what drove him to drugs in the first place?  Then your solution to this was to have him locked up instead of put into scientifically proven therapy?

John, is this one of the "STICCy results that last a lifetime"?  I guess it is if "lifetime" means "22 years."

[Anonymous]

John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

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[Anonymous]

I'm only speaking for myself.  I told this guy several times not to trifle with me, but he did it anyway.  

Apparently some people here either knew or suspected "who" he was but lacked the testicular fortitude to buck up.  I do not suffer from that shortcoming.

John David Reuben posted for nearly five years here, mostly anonymously, taunting and degrading people who suffered at the hands of people just like him.  

People like John David Reuben, a.k.a. TheWho, believe children are commodities and any business that can raise its earned value added assessment by exploiting their vulnerability for financial gain is a good business.  For people like John, children have no rights and no say.

To add insult to injury, he then claims to be a "survivor" because people loathe him here and told him so, as if he had no choice but to stay and take it.  

He could have left by his own volition at any time to stop whatever discomfort he may have felt (which I suspect is none anyway; he got off on it), a luxury not afforded to privately incarcerated children like his sons, Mike (RIP) and Max, whom were both forced into programs against their will and forced to stay there until they turned 18 or until daddy gave their jailers the OK to cut them loose.  


 :notworthy:  :notworthy:

Therein is the crux of the argument.  He railroads children into virtual private kiddie jails where they have no choice but to cope with the abuse and neglect, but poor little Johnny paints himself as a victim here, like a fucking impotent crybaby.  

This is a man who doesn't deserve to have children in the first place.  And I'm going to spend every minute of my spare time educating anyone who will listen about what a twisted little psychopath this scrawny little bastard is.

 :notworthy:

[Anonymous]

John sent his own kids to three of the worst of the worst - SUWS, ASR and HLA.  Now he has only one kid left.  What would possess any parent to let John place their kid when he has a 50% death rate for his OWN kids?  Makes no sense.

"Hi!  This is John speaking.  I have imprisoned both of my kids and one died.  Would you like me to place yours?  Programs are safe!"

[Anonymous]

Sounds suspiciously like the grant that The Seed received http://http://www.thestraights.com/people/medical-doctors/medical-research.htm

STICC Receives $100,000 Grant from the Department of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention

To Our Schools and Programs: Be a part of helping teens and their families, and share in that public recognition and prestige through the Saving Teens In Crisis Collaborative network of contributors, providers, referring parties, parents, and the government institutions that support us. Please click here to view our Press Release on StrugglingTeens.com.

Many thanks to Congressman Ed Markey of Massachusetts for his support of Saving Teens methodology, and the opportunity to apply for our federal grant!

[Anonymous]

Here's some questions, John.  Did you think ever think it could be harmfully abusive and dangerous to have Michael kidnapped, then imprisoned in a closed institution ungoverned by any legal body and without authentication of the “therapy” it claimed to offer.

 Do you feel responsible at all for what became of Micheal? Do you feel remorse? You said an ASR victim’s description of its abusive “therapy” synched with your own son’s description, but that your son benefited from it.

Considering your son is dead, would you like to reconsider the logic behind that statement?

Was posting his photo along with the message "addiction was the disease that took him" a way of postmortemly "winning," of “proving” that he was an addict, the position you and ASR, fought to make him accept for a long time.

Personally, I'd say "memorializing" him as an addict and everlasting example of how bad teens can end up humiliates him. Id say using his corpse as an ad for your business exploits him.

I’d say humiliating and exploiting him is something you rationalize as love.  I’d say you’ve been doing that for a very, very  long time.

[Anonymous]

When all your kids end up in programs, it is a good indication there's a problem with the parenting.

I see what you are saying, seems we agree somewhat.  So when the other siblings are doing okay and its just the one kid that needs a program then its a good indication it is just the kid who has the problem.  This has actually been my argument also.

http://http://tinyurl.com/y89lwwt

Arletha Schauteet attended a sibling interview on Oct 23, 1981 in order to see her brother. She was held against her will until April 21, 1982. At one point she had escaped only to be kidnapped, in a violent 30 minute struggle, by her mother, two adult males, and a woman and taken back to Straight. At one point she says Miller Newton told her that if she persisted in saying she was held against her will, "the state of Florida would take over and put my mother in jail for kidnapping." Detective Brown from the Sanford, Fl Police  Department secured her release. [Judge C. Vernon Mize signed a preemptory Writ of Habeas Corpus in the interest of Ms. Schauteet, the date is smeared, but appears to be 1982.] On Jan 19, 1983, an 18 year-old student intern in the Seminole County's sheriff's office named Hope Hyrons (photo top next page) attended a sibling interview so she could visit her brother. They tried to make her sign herself into Straight. She resisted, and she was made to walk and hitch hike back to Longwood, Fl--a 2 hour drive away. A month later she was kidnapped by her mother and father and two strange men and carried to Straight. She fought to get out of the intake room and was restrained. When she told her captors her legal rights were being violated, she says Rev. Miller Newton walked in and said, ""Well, I don't give a damn about your legal rights." Two  days later a social services official secured her release. Newton and Straight settled out-of-court with her in 1983.(10) On June 19,  1982, Fred Collins, Jr, a B level engineering student at Virginia Polytechnic Institute, (Fred now has a Ph.D. in mathematics) attended a Straight sibling interview in order to visit his brother. Fred was detained in a room with guards at the door for 7 - 10 hours, refused permission to go to the bathroom by a group of kids who related to him their stories of perverted sexual activities and drug addiction, trying to persuade him to admit to same. He finally consented to sign in for a 14 day observation period. [Thirteen years later, Marilyn Kearns' intake at Kids of North Jersey sounds remarkably similar to the experience of Fred Collins, Arletha Schauteet, and Hope Hyrons. Ms. Kearns alleges that when she was 23 years old, she attended a sibling interview at Kids, preliminary to visiting her sister. She says she was held in an intake room for hours until she agreed to sign up for treatment herself! [from author interview] ] Four and a half months later, 20 - 25 pounds lighter, Fred escaped from Straight. In a 1983 trial in which Miller Newton testified, Fred was awarded $220,000 for false imprisonment.(11)

[Troll Control]

John sent his own kids to three of the worst of the worst - SUWS, ASR and HLA.  Now he has only one kid left.  What would possess any parent to let John place their kid when he has a 50% death rate for his OWN kids?  Makes no sense.

"Hi!  This is John speaking.  I have imprisoned both of my kids and one died.  Would you like me to place yours?  Programs are safe!"

Sad, but true.  Equal parts of both.

[Whooter]

Whooter is a loser.  Look at this book review:

Link

[Anonymous]

Ya know....this is not posting.  This is nothing but pure spam, shilling for that HUGELY BIASED BOOK, written by a man who gets PAID BY ASPEN ED.  Does anyone REALLY think he's gonna be objective when they're supplying his income?

Ginger, Psy etc......isn't it time that the abuse of this board stop??  Are we seriously gonna let this sick fuckwad advertise for programs??  He's already been profiting from his own son's death.  Enough is enough.

[Whooter]

Ya know....this is not posting.  This is nothing but pure spam, shilling for that HUGELY BIASED BOOK, written by a man who gets PAID BY ASPEN ED.  Does anyone REALLY think he's gonna be objective when they're supplying his income?

Ginger, Psy etc......isn't it time that the abuse of this board stop??  Are we seriously gonna let this sick fuckwad advertise for programs??  He's already been profiting from his own son's death.  Enough is enough.

We looked into it and found that the links are leading the reader to a "blog site" which talks about a book on the industry.  He is not shilling any programs or spamming.  We do the same thing with our book list at the top of the page.

The Whooter is harmless, just ignore him.

[Whooter]

Ya know....this is not posting.  This is nothing but pure spam, shilling for that HUGELY BIASED BOOK, written by a man who gets PAID BY ASPEN ED.  Does anyone REALLY think he's gonna be objective when they're supplying his income?

Ginger, Psy etc......isn't it time that the abuse of this board stop??  Are we seriously gonna let this sick fuckwad advertise for programs??  He's already been profiting from his own son's death.  Enough is enough.

We looked into it and found that the links are leading the reader to a "Blog site" which talks about a book on the industry.  He is not shilling any programs or spamming.  We do the same thing with our book list at the top of the page.

The Whooter is harmless, just ignore him.

[Troll Control]

John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

Please add your thoughts to this topic.

John Reuben is a seriously troubled parent.

[Whooter]

John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

Please add your thoughts to this topic.

John Reuben is a seriously troubled parent.  For more info:

Whooter

[Anonymous]

Using Mikey's obit as a marketing tool for STICC:

REUBEN, Michael Joshua Age 22, of Sudbury, MA. Beloved son of John D. Reuben. Brother of Max H. Reuben. Musician, artist and sales executive. We will miss our child and the young man he became. Addiction was the illness that took him, but never the essence of who he was. Also survived by his loving grandmother, and numerous dear aunts, uncles, cousins and friends, including the Abreu and Reuben/Glanzman families of Somerville and the Frias family of Hudson. Donations may be made in his memory to: Saving Teens in Crisis Collaborative, a non-profit organization founded by John Reuben to assist troubled teens and their families struggling with substance abuse and other emotional issues. http://www.savingteens.org <http://www.savingteens.org/> P.O. Box 441363, West Somerville, MA 02144

John ran several paid obit's accross the country, each one used as a donation portal for the TTI.