Many of you know one of the top issues I have with the posters here was their definition of abuse. Many say they were abused by a program. But, you claim that my arguments and questioning is abusive to you. This is why we question whether or not you were abused in the program because you don’t understand what abuse is. By your own definition I have suffered more abuse than any of you, through the name calling and harassment, continual attempts to find out who I am etc. So by “Your” definition since I am here and still posting I am a survivor. But I don’t consider it abuse I consider it debate/ argument, but being the opportunists that many can be you like to feel if you lose an argument then you must have been abused. RobertBruce is a prime example. He feels I have abused him here. So when he turns around and says he was abused in a program what are we to think? That he lost an argument to a staff member? Someone called him on a lie?.
I have to agree with this post. I have read posts where they say they were abused but never name the staff member. Why wouldnt they? I know I would. I would name the friggin guy and then post his picture and then drive to his house with the cops by my side and arrest him. But we never see that here why? Sometimes you need to read between the lines and when a poster says they were abused but fails to name names it could mean they were self abused or cutters as they call themselves. This way they can make the statement with a full conscience that they were abused in the program without having to reveal that is was self inflicted thereby giving the impression that the program was at fault.
Something to think about.
Of course you agree because you rarely read posts in detail, you always look for the easy way out by finding the most insignificant part of any post and using it to construct poorly-based arguments.
Obviously for many survivors, the abuse happened long ago, and statute of limitations are extremely short. Most people understand this, but I am guessing you don't think too deeply before you rattle off another pro-program message. Just a robot.
Survivors have named names on endless occasions. On every one of the various school sites listed here on Fornits. But you seem to be the only one intent on not seeing that. Gee, I wonder why? And your statement that the abuse was self-inflicted causes you to lose all credibility. But it was certainly a part of all of these programs to make the teens believe that everything was their fault, whether it be parents getting divorced or someone being adopted, a girl being raped or a person molested as a child. I certainly bet you think those people were all guilty of causing those events in their lives with your narrow view on things.
And as for people feeling abused because they lose an argument? There is no name for such a low level of stupidity as the kind you display here. Your argument is totally lacking in any real thought or reflection or insight. In these programs you were punished for arguing or defending yourself at all. Few here would disagree with that, except of course you. So teens were unable to win any arguments or allowed to argue at all. The abuse was in being forced to accept guilt for things you had no association with. Guilt for events you had no part of. Screamed and yelled at and disciplined until you accepted full blame for things you didn't do. But to you, everyone is guilty. And that you are now suggesting everyone who has claimed abuse is lying... all of them, everyone on this site? That is so very, very staff-like. That you believe everyone is just a cry baby and a whiner and not owning up to everything you think they should feel horrible about, forever, is a cruel thing to consider though you do seem to be a sadist. What pathetic, insensitive drivel you spew at others expense.
Were you fired from your position as a staff member somewhere? Because it sure seems like you haven't abused enough people already that you need to come here to get your fix. Go take yourself and your bizarre accusations and simple-minded all-encompassing notions and shove off to a site where people care. I suggest some kind of English as a second language site. Not MENSA. We would not welcome you there either.
