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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #150 on: July 12, 2009, 08:48:14 PM »
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John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

Please add your thoughts to this topic.

I'd love to hear more from this boy's roomates... :peace: Is Jogn Reuben even sad his son is dead? Does he share what is perhaps his avatar's sunny view that, hey,one kid survived HLA and Academy at Swift River, and now everything is behind him?


Honestly, I don't think a lot of people like John Reuben care when their kids commit suicide. Not like a normal person would, anyway.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #151 on: July 13, 2009, 10:08:43 AM »
I agree.  He uses the "blame the child" approach to family systems.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #152 on: July 13, 2009, 01:03:44 PM »
Blame the child first...?  Hmmmm...'who' has that same philosophy here?  Lemme think...
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #153 on: July 13, 2009, 01:17:51 PM »
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Honestly, I don't think a lot of people like John Reuben care when their kids commit suicide. Not like a normal person would, anyway.

Even so called normal people dont care very much these days.  Many families barely notice until they see a decrease in their tax return due to a lost dependent claim.  Its the direct we are all heading.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #154 on: July 13, 2009, 03:22:49 PM »
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Blame the child first...?  Hmmmm...'who' has that same philosophy here?  Lemme think...

Quite a few parents...errr...trolls. Well...really just one troll posing as many parents, kids, edcons, therapists, admissions people, staff, etc. etc. etc.  AKA "Whooter".
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #155 on: July 13, 2009, 04:25:41 PM »
^^Whooter^^  I can tell it was the Whooter because he left out child molester and murderer.  He hates to be called that.  He is even trolling himself now!!!
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #156 on: July 13, 2009, 05:22:12 PM »
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^^Whooter^^  I can tell it was the Whooter because he left out child molester and murderer.  He hates to be called that.  He is even trolling himself now!!!

Ah, Whootie, always seeking to dissemble.  One more, facts are facts.  Rueben sends kids to programs like HLA where sexual predators roam the grounds with more-or-less regular kids.  HLA takes court-ordered offenders and convicted sexual predators.  Yet Reuben still sent his kid there and refers others there as well.  What does that say about Reuben?
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #157 on: July 14, 2009, 09:08:47 AM »
John sent his own kids to three of the worst of the worst - SUWS, ASR and HLA.  Now he has only one kid left.  What would possess any parent to let John place their kid when he has a 50% death rate for his OWN kids?  Makes no sense.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #158 on: July 14, 2009, 09:59:10 AM »
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #159 on: July 14, 2009, 11:27:15 AM »
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John sent his own kids to three of the worst of the worst - SUWS, ASR and HLA.  Now he has only one kid left.  What would possess any parent to let John place their kid when he has a 50% death rate for his OWN kids?  Makes no sense.

"Hi!  This is John speaking.  I have imprisoned both of my kids and one died.  Would you like me to place yours?  Programs are safe!"
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #160 on: July 14, 2009, 11:28:35 AM »
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John sent his own kids to three of the worst of the worst - SUWS, ASR and HLA.  Now he has only one kid left.  What would possess any parent to let John place their kid when he has a 50% death rate for his OWN kids?  Makes no sense.

"Hi!  This is John speaking.  I have imprisoned both of my kids and one died.  Would you like me to place yours?  Programs are safe!"


Easy one.... :guesswho:
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #161 on: July 14, 2009, 12:14:50 PM »
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John sent his own kids to three of the worst of the worst - SUWS, ASR and HLA.  Now he has only one kid left.  What would possess any parent to let John place their kid when he has a 50% death rate for his OWN kids?  Makes no sense.

"Hi!  This is John speaking.  I have imprisoned both of my kids and one died.  Would you like me to place yours?  Programs are safe!"


Easy one.... :guesswho:

Very easy one.  STICC and john reuben should be avoided like the plague.  Half of John's kids are dead due to placement at ASR.  The other half are mentally maimed by placement at HLA.
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« Reply #162 on: July 14, 2009, 03:41:42 PM »
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John sent his own kids to three of the worst of the worst - SUWS, ASR and HLA.  Now he has only one kid left.  What would possess any parent to let John place their kid when he has a 50% death rate for his OWN kids?  Makes no sense.

"Hi!  This is John speaking.  I have imprisoned both of my kids and one died.  Would you like me to place yours?  Programs are safe!"


Easy one.... :guesswho:

Very easy one.  STICC and john reuben should be avoided like the plague.  Half of John's kids are dead due to placement at ASR.  The other half are mentally maimed by placement at HLA.

Not a good track record to run on, eh?
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #163 on: July 14, 2009, 04:54:39 PM »
Wow, just checking in,  I can see Bruce and company are still working Damage control.  So now all kids that went to HLA and ASR are all dead?  You really know how to push it.  Go for the sky I guess, bro.  Nothing to lose at this point.
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Re: John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org
« Reply #164 on: July 14, 2009, 06:12:12 PM »
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Wow, just checking in,  I can see Bruce and company are still working Damage control.  So now all kids that went to HLA and ASR are all dead?  You really know how to push it.  Go for the sky I guess, bro.  Nothing to lose at this point.

Can you cite where anyone said this?  Where is the evidence[/i] this was said?   :beat:  :beat:  :beat:

So, douche, let's do a word problem:  If John Reuben had two sons and he sent one to ASR and one to HLA and one is dead, what's the program death rate at the Rueben household?

A: 50% and not a good track record.
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