John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org

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John D. Reuben's Facebook Page

Max Reuben's Facebook Page  Have a look at TheWho!

Max is going to college at Curry and should graduate in '11, which makes sense, since he "graduated"(LOLS) HLA in '08.  Interesting to know that John kept him locked up at HLA even after the suicide attempts, rapes, beatings, etc became public.  He obviously doesn't give a fuck about his kids' welfare.

Mike Reuben's Facebook page, RIP.

John is one sad sack of shit.  He absolutely destroyed his family.  John, was Max allowed to go to the funeral or not?

Can you answer about his mom's funeral, please?  Was he prevented from going?

Wouldn't you also say Mike was "on a good path" too?  He's dead now.

Just look at the Reuben family for some down and dirty numbers:  Two kids go into programs and within four years one is already dead.  That's a 50% fatality rate.  Max has two more years to go to make it to four.  Maybe he makes it, maybe he doesn't, but the numbers don't look good for the Reuben family.

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You got the RobertBruce backwards, he has a hardon for thewho always had.

and Dysfunction Junction and his 'testicular fortitude'!!  

Got it right!!  The two of them cant get enough of this who guy.

Check their profiles-- most active topic is........ The Who.
 
Big program fighters! :rocker: :rocker:

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John D. Reuben's Facebook Page

Max Reuben's Facebook Page  Have a look at TheWho!

Max is going to college at Curry and should graduate in '11, which makes sense, since he "graduated"(LOLS) HLA in '08.  Interesting to know that John kept him locked up at HLA even after the suicide attempts, rapes, beatings, etc became public.  He obviously doesn't give a fuck about his kids' welfare.

Mike Reuben's Facebook page, RIP.

John is one sad sack of shit.  He absolutely destroyed his family.  John, was Max allowed to go to the funeral or not?

Can you answer about his mom's funeral, please?  Was he prevented from going?

Wouldn't you also say Mike was "on a good path" too?  He's dead now.

Just look at the Reuben family for some down and dirty numbers:  Two kids go into programs and within four years one is already dead.  That's a 50% fatality rate.  Max has two more years to go to make it to four.  Maybe he makes it, maybe he doesn't, but the numbers don't look good for the Reuben family.

I see this is being strictly avoided.  Must have touched a nerve.  Still would like an answer here.

[TheWho]

John D. Reuben's Facebook Page

Max Reuben's Facebook Page  Have a look at TheWho!

Max is going to college at Curry and should graduate in '11, which makes sense, since he "graduated"(LOLS) HLA in '08.  Interesting to know that John kept him locked up at HLA even after the suicide attempts, rapes, beatings, etc became public.  He obviously doesn't give a fuck about his kids' welfare.

Mike Reuben's Facebook page, RIP.

John is one sad sack of shit.  He absolutely destroyed his family.  John, was Max allowed to go to the funeral or not?

Can you answer about his mom's funeral, please?  Was he prevented from going?

Wouldn't you also say Mike was "on a good path" too?  He's dead now.

Just look at the Reuben family for some down and dirty numbers:  Two kids go into programs and within four years one is already dead.  That's a 50% fatality rate.  Max has two more years to go to make it to four.  Maybe he makes it, maybe he doesn't, but the numbers don't look good for the Reuben family.

of course.  If you step real close it is 100% failure rate.  If you step further back and look at "all" the graduates the failure rate is a fraction of what kids experience in the public school system.  Programs and private schools are considered the safest place for kids at-risk and in their teens. You need to just look at the data correctly.

[TheWho]

I hate to burst anyones bubble but the kid wasnt even in a program when he took his own life.  Everyone should check the dates before spouting off, it makes us all look really stupid.  I am just as against what this family did as everyone else but the kids deaths was not program related.

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This view that the parents are to blame for everything in the childs life is typical and most parents take it with a grain of salt because they/we remember when we were kids. This is merely a maturing process. Once the kids reach their early 20’s they take more responsibility for their actions and they look back on their difficult teen years with a more realistic view point.

...and kill themselves.

Nobody said he was in a program when he died.  TheWho said kids get a realistic idea of what happened to them in their early twenties.  Mike offed himself at 22.  This must have been due to his reflection on the abuse, according to TheWho's reasoning.

I guess we can also expect Max to do himself in in a year or two as well.  As soon as he has a realistic idea of how his dad abused and neglected him.

This thread is about a disaster called "John D. Reuben's Family" not some 30,000 foot view of the teen hurt industry.  This man has been complicit in a 50% death rate of his own kids, and maybe 100% when Max gets some "realism" going.

Did Max attend his mom's funeral, John?  Or did you force him to be punished while she died?  Just answer the question.

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This view that the parents are to blame for everything in the childs life is typical and most parents take it with a grain of salt because they/we remember when we were kids. This is merely a maturing process. Once the kids reach their early 20’s they take more responsibility for their actions and they look back on their difficult teen years with a more realistic view point.

...and kill themselves.

Nobody said he was in a program when he died.  TheWho said kids get a realistic idea of what happened to them in their early twenties.  Mike offed himself at 22.  This must have been due to his reflection on the abuse, according to TheWho's reasoning.

I guess we can also expect Max to do himself in in a year or two as well.  As soon as he has a realistic idea of how his dad abused and neglected him.

This thread is about a disaster called "John D. Reuben's Family" not some 30,000 foot view of the teen hurt industry.  This man has been complicit in a 50% death rate of his own kids, and maybe 100% when Max gets some "realism" going.

Did Max attend his mom's funeral, John?  Or did you force him to be punished while she died?  Just answer the question.

**reposed for attribution of original quote to TheWho.**

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Did Max attend his mom's funeral, John? Or did you force him to be punished while she died? Just answer the question.

He was beaten for thinking he ever had a momma.

[TheWho]

Nobody said he was in a program when he died. TheWho said kids get a realistic idea of what happened to them in their early twenties. Mike offed himself at 22. This must have been due to his reflection on the abuse, according to TheWho's reasoning.

There was a kid in my highschool who offed himself and never went to a program so that kind of blows that theory.  I don’t see and credible way to tie this back to any specific event unless there was a note left.  It could have been early onset of depression, a girlfriend who left him, his mothers passing away etc.

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He had one until 2005.  I just want to know if he was allowed to go to her funeral or not.  It's not a tough question.

[TheWho]

If a kid is hell bent on hurting himself he/she is going to do it.  The early 20’ can be a difficult time because this is the time that they pull away from the safety of their parents and in this boys case the safety of the program he was in also.  If he rejected or wasn’t receiving ongoing support forhis difficulties then this may be why he was so vulnerable and wasn’t around the right people who could have read the signs.

[TheWho]

I hate to burst anyones bubble but the kid wasnt even in a program when he took his own life.  Everyone should check the dates before spouting off, it makes us all look really stupid.  I am just as against what this family did as everyone else but the kids deaths was not program related.

Someone read the information too fast thats all.  The mother died while the kid was in the program.  The kid didnt die in the program, this wasnt a program death, he died years later.  It can get easily confused with all these posts going back a forth.
Someone should work on a time line to help those who are just reading this.

[TheWho]

If anything the father is probably greatful that ASR was able to help the child thru his teen years.  It seems that things started to fall apart for him after his mother died and subsequent to leaving ASR.  That whole time period must have been difficult for the whole family.  Hopfully most of that is behind them now.

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If a kid is hell bent on hurting himself he/she is going to do it.  The early 20’ can be a difficult time because this is the time that they pull away from the safety of their parents and in this boys case the safety of the program he was in also.  If he rejected or wasn’t receiving ongoing support forhis difficulties then this may be why he was so vulnerable and wasn’t around the right people who could have read the signs.

Your daughter's in her early twenties now.  Do you worry this could happen to her?  Did she get accepted into college after ASR?  If so, was it "less competitive" or in another state?  I can't see Mass. colleges accepting an ASR kid that had no valid diploma.  Out of state, maybe.

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If a kid is hell bent on hurting himself he/she is going to do it.  The early 20’ can be a difficult time because this is the time that they pull away from the safety of their parents and in this boys case the safety of the program he was in also.  If he rejected or wasn’t receiving ongoing support forhis difficulties then this may be why he was so vulnerable and wasn’t around the right people who could have read the signs.

Your daughter's in her early twenties now.  Do you worry this could happen to her?  Did she get accepted into college after ASR?  If so, was it "less competitive" or in another state?  I can't see Mass. colleges accepting an ASR kid that had no valid diploma.  Out of state, maybe.

its safe to say, thewho has no daughter