John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org

[TheWho]

Can you smell the desperation?  This guy is too much!  Dude, I'm not kidding, you're frayed.  Take a week off.  Go do something away from the computer.

I "retired" from the TBS/RTC business, John.  I think you've just gotten lazy.  Don't you know anyone who left one type of job for another?  I guess nobody has ever changed jobs before?  Oh....wait.  Yes.  You have changed jobs every two years for your entire adult life.  Not a very good record, John.

Seriously, man, take a break.  I like the old Whooter, the one that actually tried to argue over legitimate topics.  What'd you do with that guy?  The NewWho is the lamest of trolls.  I guess when we know who you are it takes some of the fun out of it.   :heartbreak:

nice try ... "...claims to be a mental health professional himself"...  and you stated ....I'm retired from that business..  So what you are saying is you are no longer a mental health professional?

If this is true you have been lying to all of us.  If it is not true then you have lied still.

Can everyone see what he is doing?

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[Troll Control]

You are so desperate to shift the focus, John, and I don't blame you.  These past weeks under the microscope have really taken a toll on you.  It's not pretty to look at.  Go for a run or something.  Go outside.  Come back when you're fresh.  G'nite, sport!

[TheWho]

You are so desperate to shift the focus, John, and I don't blame you.  These past weeks under the microscope have really taken a toll on you.  It's not pretty to look at.  Go for a run or something.  Go outside.  Come back when you're fresh.  G'nite, sport!

Ha,Ha,Ha  Sting!!  DJ you step in it every time.  Facts just seem to be your down fall.  You cant have it both ways.  If you want to post that your a mental health professional then you need to stand by that.  You cant be a professional one day and not one the next.  (well  in your case maybe).
Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day for you.

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John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

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[Anonymous]

Thank you.

[RobertBruce]

He feels I have abused him here. So when he turns around and says he was abused in a program what are we to think? That he lost an argument to a staff member? Someone called him on a lie?

HAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Peter I have never claimed you abused me, nor do I feel you have. The obvious reason being  you arent capable of it sport, you're just too pathetic. I don't deny that I've abused you, but you deserve it and it's funny so I'm okay with it. To answer your other questions regarding my time in HLA, no I never lost an argument with a staff member, in fact I was given a work assignment once for winning one. Nor did any staff member ever catch me in a lie. Looks like you have something in common with them Pete.

Now whether I'm right and you're Peter Dunbar, or Elvis is right and you're John Reuben, both individuals seem to be horrible people. Again, I can understand why their sons killed themselves. Afterall who would want a life spent with you?

[RobertBruce]

For Those Requesting a Picture of TheWho

Well this guy certianly does like a raging dooche. Any pictures of Peter found yet?

[Anonymous]

Robert Bruce you are arguing off topic with Pete in the wrong forum. Slap that pig around elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

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[RobertBruce]

I believe it was Zen Agent who was an admin here who was publishing peoples identities. You may want to check on that. Seems I am taking the rap for alot here are you trying to clean the closet?. I would be pissed too if people were trying to reveal my personal stuff!! Oh wait they are doing it now!!!!

Reconsider this comment very, very carefully Peter. You have a very limited time to both link up your posts, and retract and apologize for this comment. If you don't more and more secrets are going to come to light all proving you to be an unmitigated liar. Funny how PM's can't be edited isn't it?

[Revenge Fantasy Girl]

John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs.  He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.

John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18.  Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.

Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.

John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.

Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.

John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today.  Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into.  Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death.  John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.

Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.

R.I.P., Mike.  Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally.   :peace:

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[TheWho]

I believe it was Zen Agent who was an admin here who was publishing peoples identities. You may want to check on that. Seems I am taking the rap for alot here are you trying to clean the closet?. I would be pissed too if people were trying to reveal my personal stuff!! Oh wait they are doing it now!!!!

Reconsider this comment very, very carefully Peter. You have a very limited time to both link up your posts, and retract and apologize for this comment. If you don't more and more secrets are going to come to light all proving you to be an unmitigated liar. Funny how PM's can't be edited isn't it?

Tick,Tick,Tick I guess PM's can be edited.  Never thought about it.  So what your saying is any PM which is posted out on the forum can be changed to say what ever the person wants it to say.. in other words they cannot be a very reliable source of information.  I guess I can see your point.
I dont post PM's on the open forum anyway otherwise they would not be "Private Messages"

still pedalling?

[RobertBruce]

I will, and I don't need to edit them. You can claim I have after I post it, but who' going to believe you at this point Pete. There really isnt anything you can say or do to surprise people, save acting like a human being. You have no credibility on here Pete.

While you're deciding what to do show the post where you gave Psy permission to link up all your guest posts. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.

[TheWho]

I will, and I don't need to edit them. You can claim I have after I post it, but who' going to believe you at this point Pete. There really isnt anything you can say or do to surprise people, save acting like a human being. You have no credibility on here Pete.

While you're deciding what to do show the post where you gave Psy permission to link up all your guest posts. I'm not letting you off the hook Peter.

Of course!!  If they have been altered I will point out the errors.  The important thing is that we are all enjoying ourselves.  Once you start taking this too seriously like you have in the past it becomes unhealthy for you, like when Function Junction was posting.

I dont expect to be let off the hook for anything. But you should not expect others to do what you dont want to do yourself.  You should have learned this earlier but in some people it takes longer.

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Wait...your kid is dead and you come here for enjoyment?  I just want to get that straight.