John D. Reuben and SavingTeens.org

[Anonymous]

Bruce, calm down, the only reason you are taking it this hard and personally is because this guy, John, owned you for so many years.  Try renting a movie or taking a walk.  It is quite possible that this guy could be a non practicing jew who doesnt believe the holocaust occurred which would mean history would not be repeating itself in his eyes.  So it is all a matter of perspective and this "final solution" could be new ground for him.

My name isn't Bruce and I have no relationship with Reuben other than reading the forum, so he has no ownership of me.  As a parent I find Reuben deplorable, an opportunist on the level of Polly Klaas' father, who exploited his daughter's murder for gain.

Why are you people so interested in defending John Reuben? Why is he valuable to you?  The usual threads I read on Fornits are cluttered with posts like yours above.  You make fun of these kids who claim they've suffered and defend a guy who shows no concern for the safety of other parents' kids.  

The topic of John D. Reuben needs to be on other forums other than Fornits, like FICAN and CAFETY, so parents can be made aware of what Reuben promotes and his horrible "proof" that it works.  All of these things his defenders are saying need to be included in any discussion of Reuben to show how evil and heartless these people are.  There certainly are a lot of people speaking for Reuben, like the cad above.  You must know him really well.  This does remind me of Sue Scheff and her backers.  Now some of Scheff's backers are here, or they were sued by Scheff.

"Perspective"?  I guess John D. Reuben puts a positive spin on the Holocaust now?  I'm not Jewish and I consider the Holocaust an abomination.  How do you expect to sway parents to put kids in an AEG school when you behave like the worst juvenile delinquents, defending your programs by insulting and further abusing kids you do not know?  Isn't it bad enough John D. Reuben lost his son, despite the obviously futile programs?

What is perfectly clear is that John D. Reuben and his AEG cohorts make it obvious they have an Achilles' heel and the people who suffered in the programs he sells have found it and the screaming and profanity out of AEG and Reuben have been shocking.  Reuben and AEG would have been better served by silence rather than attacking kids who were abused.  

Poster above:  Have any children suffered abuse or death in an Aspen program?  A "Yes" answer means you are aware of the problems inherent in your system and you still promote it.  I've seen no statements from AEG announcing a ban on corporal punishment, or even the introduction of legitimate treatment.

John D. Reuben and STICC, you have some media attention coming to you, and it will not be the type you want.  You can refuse to participate but you lose the chance to rebut.  Based on the information on this forum and your alleged activities as a troll called "the who", you might want to get your foulmouthed fanatics to take time out and work the spin machine.  Miller Newton is the only other person who comes to mind as evil and without conscience as John D. Reuben and his cohorts at AEG.

RIP, Michael Reuben.  A lot of people are speaking for your father, how sad no one can speak for you.

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John D. Reuben lists his religion as "Jewish" on his Zoom profile and he sends kids to camps where they could be killed or abused.  How ironic that a Jew has no problem with people being abducted from their homes in the middle of the night and shipped to camps where they face death and torture if they resist.  And who wouldn't resist kidnapping?  

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it, Reuben.  Maybe you should talk with a Holocaust survivor and see how similar your "life saving" programs are to the Nazis' Final Solution.

You're a subhuman, John D. Reuben. You wanted to compete with Sue Scheff, now you are on her level.

You got that right.  John Reuben is definitely SUBhuman.  One son thinks he killed his own wife.  His other son is already dead.  Maybe this is John's own personal "final solution" to his family problems?  One thing's for sure - nobody should take parenting advice from someone who is as miserable a failure as John Reuben at parenting.

[Whooter]

My name isn't Bruce

Wiggle, wiggle, Bruce, as thewho would say.  You have been owned for years by this guy and you just cant let it go.  I have watched this guy string you along and make you jump thru hoops, Bruce.  The last straw was when he got the ear of a staff member from HLA and found out you had issues about being a coward.  You should try to change your writting style if you really expect to anyone.

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Bruce, calm down, the only reason you are taking it this hard and personally is because this guy, John, owned you for so many years.  Try renting a movie or taking a walk.  It is quite possible that this guy could be a non practicing jew who doesnt believe the holocaust occurred which would mean history would not be repeating itself in his eyes.  So it is all a matter of perspective and this "final solution" could be new ground for him.

My name isn't Bruce and I have no relationship with Reuben other than reading the forum, so he has no ownership of me.  As a parent I find Reuben deplorable, an opportunist on the level of Polly Klaas' father, who exploited his daughter's murder for gain.

Why are you people so interested in defending John Reuben? Why is he valuable to you?  The usual threads I read on Fornits are cluttered with posts like yours above.  You make fun of these kids who claim they've suffered and defend a guy who shows no concern for the safety of other parents' kids.  

The topic of John D. Reuben needs to be on other forums other than Fornits, like FICAN and CAFETY, so parents can be made aware of what Reuben promotes and his horrible "proof" that it works.  All of these things his defenders are saying need to be included in any discussion of Reuben to show how evil and heartless these people are.  There certainly are a lot of people speaking for Reuben, like the cad above.  You must know him really well.  This does remind me of Sue Scheff and her backers.  Now some of Scheff's backers are here, or they were sued by Scheff.

"Perspective"?  I guess John D. Reuben puts a positive spin on the Holocaust now?  I'm not Jewish and I consider the Holocaust an abomination.  How do you expect to sway parents to put kids in an AEG school when you behave like the worst juvenile delinquents, defending your programs by insulting and further abusing kids you do not know?  Isn't it bad enough John D. Reuben lost his son, despite the obviously futile programs?

What is perfectly clear is that John D. Reuben and his AEG cohorts make it obvious they have an Achilles' heel and the people who suffered in the programs he sells have found it and the screaming and profanity out of AEG and Reuben have been shocking.  Reuben and AEG would have been better served by silence rather than attacking kids who were abused.  

Poster above:  Have any children suffered abuse or death in an Aspen program?  A "Yes" answer means you are aware of the problems inherent in your system and you still promote it.  I've seen no statements from AEG announcing a ban on corporal punishment, or even the introduction of legitimate treatment.

John D. Reuben and STICC, you have some media attention coming to you, and it will not be the type you want.  You can refuse to participate but you lose the chance to rebut.  Based on the information on this forum and your alleged activities as a troll called "the who", you might want to get your foulmouthed fanatics to take time out and work the spin machine.  Miller Newton is the only other person who comes to mind as evil and without conscience as John D. Reuben and his cohorts at AEG.

RIP, Michael Reuben.  A lot of people are speaking for your father, how sad no one can speak for you.

John calls everyone who nails his ass to the wall "Bruce" - it's like a nervous tic he has.  This is how you know you got to him.  He calls you "Bruce" and rambles on about how he was able to get some unprofessional hack at HLA to divulge confidential information on its patients.  He's actually PROUD of that!  HLA is out of business, BTW, like many more to follow soon, like STICC.  John gets furious when he's outed as a liar and fraud though!  Funny to watch.

[Whooter]

John calls everyone who nails his ass to the wall "Bruce"

Its Still......Wiggle, wiggle, Bruce, as thewho would say. You have been owned for years by this guy and you just cant let it go. I have watched this guy string you along and make you jump thru hoops, Bruce. The last straw was when he got the ear of a staff member from HLA and found out you had issues about being a coward.

You should try to change your writting style if you really expect to fool anyone.

[Anonymous]

My name isn't Bruce

Wiggle, wiggle, Bruce, as thewho would say.  You have been owned for years by this guy and you just cant let it go.  I have watched this guy string you along and make you jump thru hoops, Bruce.  The last straw was when he got the ear of a staff member from HLA and found out you had issues about being a coward.  You should try to change your writting style if you really expect to anyone.

Anyway an admin can confirm to this confused person I am not his friend "Bruce"?  Psy will know my IP in a second.

I guess I'll call you "Wiggler".  Your "writting" style is no more distinctive than any nine year-old's.  Were you in a program, Wiggler, or did you only pay for one?

[Anonymous]

My name isn't Bruce and I have no relationship with Reuben other than reading the forum, so he has no ownership of me.  As a parent I find Reuben deplorable, an opportunist on the level of Polly Klaas' father, who exploited his daughter's murder for gain.

Why are you people so interested in defending John Reuben? Why is he valuable to you?  The usual threads I read on Fornits are cluttered with posts like yours above.  You make fun of these kids who claim they've suffered and defend a guy who shows no concern for the safety of other parents' kids.  

The topic of John D. Reuben needs to be on other forums other than Fornits, like FICAN and CAFETY, so parents can be made aware of what Reuben promotes and his horrible "proof" that it works.  All of these things his defenders are saying need to be included in any discussion of Reuben to show how evil and heartless these people are.  There certainly are a lot of people speaking for Reuben, like the cad above.  You must know him really well.  This does remind me of Sue Scheff and her backers.  Now some of Scheff's backers are here, or they were sued by Scheff.

"Perspective"?  I guess John D. Reuben puts a positive spin on the Holocaust now?  I'm not Jewish and I consider the Holocaust an abomination.  How do you expect to sway parents to put kids in an AEG school when you behave like the worst juvenile delinquents, defending your programs by insulting and further abusing kids you do not know?  Isn't it bad enough John D. Reuben lost his son, despite the obviously futile programs?

What is perfectly clear is that John D. Reuben and his AEG cohorts make it obvious they have an Achilles' heel and the people who suffered in the programs he sells have found it and the screaming and profanity out of AEG and Reuben have been shocking.  Reuben and AEG would have been better served by silence rather than attacking kids who were abused.  

Poster above:  Have any children suffered abuse or death in an Aspen program?  A "Yes" answer means you are aware of the problems inherent in your system and you still promote it.  I've seen no statements from AEG announcing a ban on corporal punishment, or even the introduction of legitimate treatment.

John D. Reuben and STICC, you have some media attention coming to you, and it will not be the type you want.  You can refuse to participate but you lose the chance to rebut.  Based on the information on this forum and your alleged activities as a troll called "the who", you might want to get your foulmouthed fanatics to take time out and work the spin machine.  Miller Newton is the only other person who comes to mind as evil and without conscience as John D. Reuben and his cohorts at AEG.

RIP, Michael Reuben.  A lot of people are speaking for your father, how sad no one can speak for you.

My name isn't Bruce

Wiggle, wiggle, Bruce, as thewho would say.  You have been owned for years by this guy and you just cant let it go.  I have watched this guy string you along and make you jump thru hoops, Bruce.  The last straw was when he got the ear of a staff member from HLA and found out you had issues about being a coward.  You should try to change your writting style if you really expect to anyone.

That's all you have to say to all that?  Pretty lame, dude.  You was owned like a dog.

[Whooter]

I am not his friend "Bruce"?  

Look, nice try, Bruce, but read the last line in my post.  You are really bad at this buddy, everyone here knows.

Its Still......Wiggle, wiggle, Bruce, as thewho would say. You have been owned for years by this guy and you just cant let it go. I have watched this guy string you along and make you jump thru hoops, Bruce. The last straw was when he got the ear of a staff member from HLA and found out you had issues about being a coward.

You should try to change your writing style if you really expect to fool anyone.

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My name isn't Bruce and I have no relationship with Reuben other than reading the forum, so he has no ownership of me.  As a parent I find Reuben deplorable, an opportunist on the level of Polly Klaas' father, who exploited his daughter's murder for gain.

Why are you people so interested in defending John Reuben? Why is he valuable to you?  The usual threads I read on Fornits are cluttered with posts like yours above.  You make fun of these kids who claim they've suffered and defend a guy who shows no concern for the safety of other parents' kids.  

The topic of John D. Reuben needs to be on other forums other than Fornits, like FICAN and CAFETY, so parents can be made aware of what Reuben promotes and his horrible "proof" that it works.  All of these things his defenders are saying need to be included in any discussion of Reuben to show how evil and heartless these people are.  There certainly are a lot of people speaking for Reuben, like the cad above.  You must know him really well.  This does remind me of Sue Scheff and her backers.  Now some of Scheff's backers are here, or they were sued by Scheff.

"Perspective"?  I guess John D. Reuben puts a positive spin on the Holocaust now?  I'm not Jewish and I consider the Holocaust an abomination.  How do you expect to sway parents to put kids in an AEG school when you behave like the worst juvenile delinquents, defending your programs by insulting and further abusing kids you do not know?  Isn't it bad enough John D. Reuben lost his son, despite the obviously futile programs?

What is perfectly clear is that John D. Reuben and his AEG cohorts make it obvious they have an Achilles' heel and the people who suffered in the programs he sells have found it and the screaming and profanity out of AEG and Reuben have been shocking.  Reuben and AEG would have been better served by silence rather than attacking kids who were abused.  

Poster above:  Have any children suffered abuse or death in an Aspen program?  A "Yes" answer means you are aware of the problems inherent in your system and you still promote it.  I've seen no statements from AEG announcing a ban on corporal punishment, or even the introduction of legitimate treatment.

John D. Reuben and STICC, you have some media attention coming to you, and it will not be the type you want.  You can refuse to participate but you lose the chance to rebut.  Based on the information on this forum and your alleged activities as a troll called "the who", you might want to get your foulmouthed fanatics to take time out and work the spin machine.  Miller Newton is the only other person who comes to mind as evil and without conscience as John D. Reuben and his cohorts at AEG.

RIP, Michael Reuben.  A lot of people are speaking for your father, how sad no one can speak for you.

My name isn't Bruce

Wiggle, wiggle, Bruce, as thewho would say.  You have been owned for years by this guy and you just cant let it go.  I have watched this guy string you along and make you jump thru hoops, Bruce.  The last straw was when he got the ear of a staff member from HLA and found out you had issues about being a coward.  You should try to change your writting style if you really expect to anyone.

That's all you have to say to all that?  Pretty lame, dude.  You was owned like a dog.

Yes, but his only motive is to change the subject from John Reuben's dealings with abusive programs for kickbacks.  Funny though, by responding he keeps his thread at the top.  His ego is too fragile not to respond, even though responding only damages him worse.  And so it has gone for almost six years now with this same guy.

[Whooter]

I am not his friend "Bruce"?  

Look, nice try, Bruce, but read the last line in my post.  You are really bad at this buddy, everyone here knows.

Its Still......Wiggle, wiggle, Bruce, as thewho would say. You have been owned for years by this guy and you just cant let it go. I have watched this guy string you along and make you jump thru hoops, Bruce. The last straw was when he got the ear of a staff member from HLA and found out you had issues about being a coward.

You should try to change your writing style if you really expect to fool anyone.

Yes, but his only motive is to change the subject from John Reuben's dealings with abusive programs for kickbacks.

Thanks Bruce, for admitting that you have been exposed.  No one is changing the subject on you, dont get upset.  Look at the title of the thread... now see, it is still at the top and your goal is being accomplished.  You can still pursue this guy Reuben to your hearts content.  But we all know that you have been owned by thewho and are doing the best you can to counter that... keep posting (bumping it up) and I will do my share to help you as  long as you stay honest and know that I will be here to keep you accountable for your posts.

[Whooter]

lol I feel bad for RB he gets exposed everytime.  He makes a shitty troll.

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My name isn't Bruce and I have no relationship with Reuben other than reading the forum, so he has no ownership of me.  As a parent I find Reuben deplorable, an opportunist on the level of Polly Klaas' father, who exploited his daughter's murder for gain.

Why are you people so interested in defending John Reuben? Why is he valuable to you?  The usual threads I read on Fornits are cluttered with posts like yours above.  You make fun of these kids who claim they've suffered and defend a guy who shows no concern for the safety of other parents' kids.  

The topic of John D. Reuben needs to be on other forums other than Fornits, like FICAN and CAFETY, so parents can be made aware of what Reuben promotes and his horrible "proof" that it works.  All of these things his defenders are saying need to be included in any discussion of Reuben to show how evil and heartless these people are.  There certainly are a lot of people speaking for Reuben, like the cad above.  You must know him really well.  This does remind me of Sue Scheff and her backers.  Now some of Scheff's backers are here, or they were sued by Scheff.

"Perspective"?  I guess John D. Reuben puts a positive spin on the Holocaust now?  I'm not Jewish and I consider the Holocaust an abomination.  How do you expect to sway parents to put kids in an AEG school when you behave like the worst juvenile delinquents, defending your programs by insulting and further abusing kids you do not know?  Isn't it bad enough John D. Reuben lost his son, despite the obviously futile programs?

What is perfectly clear is that John D. Reuben and his AEG cohorts make it obvious they have an Achilles' heel and the people who suffered in the programs he sells have found it and the screaming and profanity out of AEG and Reuben have been shocking.  Reuben and AEG would have been better served by silence rather than attacking kids who were abused.  

Poster above:  Have any children suffered abuse or death in an Aspen program?  A "Yes" answer means you are aware of the problems inherent in your system and you still promote it.  I've seen no statements from AEG announcing a ban on corporal punishment, or even the introduction of legitimate treatment.

John D. Reuben and STICC, you have some media attention coming to you, and it will not be the type you want.  You can refuse to participate but you lose the chance to rebut.  Based on the information on this forum and your alleged activities as a troll called "the who", you might want to get your foulmouthed fanatics to take time out and work the spin machine.  Miller Newton is the only other person who comes to mind as evil and without conscience as John D. Reuben and his cohorts at AEG.

RIP, Michael Reuben.  A lot of people are speaking for your father, how sad no one can speak for you.

My name isn't Bruce

Wiggle, wiggle, Bruce, as thewho would say.  You have been owned for years by this guy and you just cant let it go.  I have watched this guy string you along and make you jump thru hoops, Bruce.  The last straw was when he got the ear of a staff member from HLA and found out you had issues about being a coward.  You should try to change your writting style if you really expect to anyone.

That's all you have to say to all that?  Pretty lame, dude.  You was owned like a dog.

Yes, but his only motive is to change the subject from John Reuben's dealings with abusive programs for kickbacks.  Funny though, by responding he keeps his thread at the top.  His ego is too fragile not to respond, even though responding only damages him worse.  And so it has gone for almost six years now with this same guy.

Thanks for exposing this person to the light of day, people.  He has some serious, serious problems to say the least.

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Excerpt from an email received from a parent that used STICC:

Oh my God.  My wife's sister had her son "placed" by this person into a highly abusive facility.  She ended up getting her son out (which this guy fought along with the program) and suing them.  I had no idea he had this type of history with his own children and his wife.  This is scaring me now.  I'm going to call my sister and aske her if her attorney knows about all of this.

[Anonymous]

John D. Reuben lists his religion as "Jewish" on his Zoom profile and he sends kids to camps where they could be killed or abused.  How ironic that a Jew has no problem with people being abducted from their homes in the middle of the night and shipped to camps where they face death and torture if they resist.  And who wouldn't resist kidnapping?  

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it, Reuben.  Maybe you should talk with a Holocaust survivor and see how similar your "life saving" programs are to the Nazis' Final Solution.

You're a subhuman, John D. Reuben. You wanted to compete with Sue Scheff, now you are on her level.

You got that right.  John Reuben is definitely SUBhuman.  One son thinks he killed his own wife.  His other son is already dead.  Maybe this is John's own personal "final solution" to his family problems?  One thing's for sure - nobody should take parenting advice from someone who is as miserable a failure as John Reuben at parenting.

[Anonymous]

http://www.sticc.org/pages/home.php

I hope they sue you John.  Better yet I hope they give ya one.