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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #60 on: June 15, 2009, 01:14:53 AM »
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Mapinga,

What does Komunistická strana ?eskoslovenska mean?

ha! babelfish can tell you that but it is the Czech Communist Party - why, do you have some memorabilia?

memorabilia:


Nice stamps - yes, anyway KSC means Czech Communist Party and the one on the right commemorates 60 years of its existence...
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #61 on: June 15, 2009, 01:17:09 AM »
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When did your child leave Czechoslovakia?
We left as a family, about 6 years ago.

Say Bob, I am going to hit the sack - have to go to work in the morning.
Gnite!
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #62 on: June 15, 2009, 01:05:02 PM »
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Thanks for the info, Psy. No threats intended, just pointing to precedents that we have all heard about lately. (In any case, I am quite reasonable and polite, compared with many of your posters who besides breaking the law are crude and offensive.) Anyway, when we know something is wrong, why allow it?

Because in order to preserve free speech on this forum, everything needs due process.  Although I certainly do not agree with "well proxied" republishing the information, It's not my decision to make as to whether or not it's unacceptable.  Essentially, this forum defers to the courts on first amendment matters.  We try not to take sides and remain neutral.  Think of this forum as a very large piece of paper.  We're not responsible for what people write on it.

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Many insurance companies, by the way, would agree with your notion of sharing freely private medical and other personal information (for their own gain) - I, for one, vigorously disagree.

Well.  I disagree with what they do and agree with you.

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(Although I might take exception if you called me a pedophile - that is a serious criminal accusation and one could argue that it, indeed, could be considered libel.) Just don't print private medical information.

Well.  Not that I agree with what "well proxied" did, but there are several arguments here.  The first is that the information was not originally published by "well proxied" on this forum, but by CALO.  The second is that since CALO is not technically a medical facility, the records are not medical in nature.  If they were, CALO, and not "well proxied" would certainly bear the brunt of any HIPAA penalties.

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FInally, these might be of interest: http://www.freedomtodiffer.com/freedom_ ... ums-r.html
http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/ ... vate-facts
"Section 230 explicitly exempts from its coverage criminal law, communications privacy law, and "intellectual property claims." http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/ ... ecency-act
Susan

Could be.  Doe vs. Myspace held that section 230 applied to privacy of minors...  And HIPAA may apply to CALO but certainly not to any republisher (i have not read the law so I do not know for sure)...  But it's a matter for the courts to decide.  From my perspective, I have no idea whether what was published was illegal or not.  Whether or not I find it disgusting or offensive (i do) is irrelevant.  That by itself is not enough to warrant removal.  Nothing on this site gets removed without a court order.

Sometimes it makes things difficult, but it would be a slippery slope of we suddenly started making exceptions.
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #63 on: June 15, 2009, 01:07:22 PM »
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Why would I do that?  I like the place and think they do a great job...

Do you have first hand knowledge of that or second hand based on reports from staff and/or monitored phone calls with your kid?
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #64 on: June 15, 2009, 02:38:35 PM »
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When did your child leave Czechoslovakia?
We left as a family, about 6 years ago.

Say Bob, I am going to hit the sack - have to go to work in the morning.
Gnite!

I used to work at Eckerd Youth Alternatives years ago.  Whereas I am no longer working for them now.

Staff omitted details from incident reports when physical restraints violated company policy and applicable law(s). This is commonplace in facilities.  It was commonplace for staff to provoke restraints.  They would seize an opportunity to physically restrain a child, control them, rather than deal  with the underlying problem in a non-abusive manner.  I have witnessed 5 staff restrain a child, power slams, a Program Director in Training shake a child and my Program Director physically restrain a child in the dining hall during meal time.
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #65 on: June 15, 2009, 02:41:46 PM »
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Why would I do that?  I like the place and think they do a great job...

Do you have first hand knowledge of that or second hand based on reports from staff and/or monitored phone calls with your kid?

First hand, Psy.
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #66 on: June 15, 2009, 02:46:22 PM »
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Why would I do that?  I like the place and think they do a great job...

Do you have first hand knowledge of that or second hand based on reports from staff and/or monitored phone calls with your kid?

First hand, Psy.

So you're there 24/7 with your kid?
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #67 on: June 15, 2009, 02:54:05 PM »
Mapinka,

Have you ever made an  unannounced visit to CALO?

Sincerely,

Bob Peterson
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #68 on: June 15, 2009, 02:58:35 PM »
Mapinka,

Has your child been restrained at CALO?  If so, did you read the restraint report?

Sincerely,

Bob Peterson
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2009, 03:17:34 PM »
Mapinka,

Does staff read your child's mail at CALO?  

Sincerely,

Bob Peterson
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #70 on: June 15, 2009, 03:20:03 PM »
Mapinka,

What consequences did your child receive at CALO for rule violations?  

Sincerely,

Bob Peterson
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #71 on: June 15, 2009, 03:48:20 PM »
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Why would I do that?  I like the place and think they do a great job...

Do you have first hand knowledge of that or second hand based on reports from staff and/or monitored phone calls with your kid?

First hand, Psy.

So you're there 24/7 with your kid?

Wow. Keep fishing, Psy...
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #72 on: June 15, 2009, 03:56:23 PM »
In my humble opinion, Maminka knows very little about what her child is going through at CALO.  She cannot answer simple questions I posted due to lack of knowledge.  This is commonplace amongst parents because they assume the said school is looking out for their child's interests.
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #73 on: June 15, 2009, 04:04:00 PM »
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Why would I do that?  I like the place and think they do a great job...
Do you have first hand knowledge of that or second hand based on reports from staff and/or monitored phone calls with your kid?
First hand, Psy.
So you're there 24/7 with your kid?
Wow. Keep fishing, Psy...

Although I cannot honestly speak for Psy, I wasn't under the impression that he was fishing for anything. It's seems to me (and I may well be wrong), that he was merely trying to point out that staff behavior towards your child while you are there is, more often than not, very different from staff behavior towards your child when you are absent.
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Re: List of children being currently tortured at CALO
« Reply #74 on: June 15, 2009, 06:36:06 PM »
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Although I cannot honestly speak for Psy, I wasn't under the impression that he was fishing for anything. It's seems to me (and I may well be wrong), that he was merely trying to point out that staff behavior towards your child while you are there is, more often than not, very different from staff behavior towards your child when you are absent.

More or less, but it seems by her response she is not willing to consider any other possibility than what she "knows".  Frankly, I don't know much about CALO, but I do know how many other not-so-nice programs have operated in the past and was simply trying to determine whether or not there is a possibility CALO could be among that group; basically trying to see how many red-flags CALO raises...  a bit like ISACcorp's warning signs:

http://www.isaccorp.org/warningsigns.asp
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