How to fit in at Fornits.com

[FemanonFatal2.0]

Well I don't think you would be required to devulge your identity simply to participate in this group. Actually, I've always been a fan of the anonymous posting on Fornits, however I think the one thing that makes this site an abrasive environment is the lack of mods willing to enforce rules about content.[/size]

For instance, I would probably state that blantent attacks and aggressive, hateful posts will be deleted. I don't mind debating with the other side of the fence about the subject and I certainly wouldn't ban them for simply holding a different opinion but I would be protective of the "safe haven" environment. The way I see it is that if anyone is intending on visiting a support group for survivors and only intends to insult and attack them they shouldn't be welcome.


It would also help to have individual groups for each individual school, that way If you did want to get in touch with old friends you would be able to do so easily. I could also do some networking on myspace in order to bring in more old buddies... I did that with Darrington Academy and I already have 200 survivors on my friends list. Myspace and facebook are good ways to get a hold of old program buddies, I think if we did make this support group I would launch a full flown networking campaign and see how many survivors I could pull into the site.

The only problem is finding the time. lol.

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I see what you are saying, but I wouldn’t go as far as deleting their posts.  If a person (parent or ex staff ,for example) is attacked for no reason then maybe the attacker could be placed on probation or banned for a few days as a lesson or cooling down period.  Just outright banning someone or deleting posts I don’t think is right.  We should all try to keep the debate healthy, productive and a safe place for people to speak out.  Also, it may help if other posters speak out when someone is being aggressive and point out that the behavior is not welcome here.

Well yes, I think it all depends on the severity of the content in the post... and of course it wouldn't just be my decision I figure I'd put it to a vote within the community. It's not my intention to censor anyone, especially the pro-program people because I find that their arguments are often incriminating of their character. That's actually something that SHOULD be available for people to see. We could as well make some sub-forums anonymous and others moderated so people have a choice to participate in the arguments or not. Like I said, I'd leave it up to the group, if they felt more comfortable having those kinds of posts deleted I would oblige, however if they liked the debate and want to make a point to show the way the pro-programmers interact with survivors I would not delete. At this point I would have to leave these kinds of details in limbo and let the community make the decisions for themselves. I personally have no preference either way. I've always believed in giving people the freedom to make their own niche in a situation like this.

[TheWho]

Well yes, I think it all depends on the severity of the content in the post... and of course it wouldn't just be my decision I figure I'd put it to a vote within the community. It's not my intention to censor anyone, especially the pro-program people because I find that their arguments are often incriminating of their character. That's actually something that SHOULD be available for people to see. We could as well make some sub-forums anonymous and others moderated so people have a choice to participate in the arguments or not. Like I said, I'd leave it up to the group, if they felt more comfortable having those kinds of posts deleted I would oblige, however if they liked the debate and want to make a point to show the way the pro-programmers interact with survivors I would not delete. At this point I would have to leave these kinds of details in limbo and let the community make the decisions for themselves. I personally have no preference either way. I've always believed in giving people the freedom to make their own niche in a situation like this.

I agree with you about arguments bringing out a persons character.  I have seen people who seem so composed just lose it totally during the heat of a debate and say things that reveal a different side of them, but a true part of them just the same.  These posts are ususally the most telling and a deletion would be a disservice to the readers.
The majority should always have the upper hand in situations like these.

[psy]

and of course it wouldn't just be my decision I figure I'd put it to a vote within the community.

Then you get tyranny of the majority.

Look.. there have been efforts to set up other, moderated forums (there must be 10-15 by now).  It doesn't seem to work too well for whatever reason.  There is a medium volume of posting for like a week, and then it dies down.  Fornits, on the other hand, tends to bounce back.  Why this is.... that's up for debate.

Anon posts here, Private lists, PMs here, and IMs are where most people get support, IMO.  A forum for the purpose would be sorta pointless.

[Anonymous]

Why is it that 76% of the threads these days end up in a debate about AA?

YMAO (yawning my ass off)

Then STAY OUT OF THEM.  Leave it alone for others who WANT to discuss it.  If you don't, great.  GTFO.  :boycott:

Whatever you say, fuckin' forum nazi!!!  :fuckoff:  

Guess my posting behavior should fall in line with what YOU think, eh?   :rofl:

Tell ya what -- I'll make a point to bitch about this sort of thing more, if only to irritate you.  :twofinger:

Do whatever you like, it doesn't irritate me.  I just don't get why if you find a topic so boring, you'd continually post in the thread.   If I find a topic uninteresting I don't usually make a point of going back into it.  I just leave it alone for those that DO want to talk about it instead of running in and telling them all how foolish they are and running back out.  Seems odd is all. But whatever man.  To each his own I guess.

[Froderik]

My dear anon, you are so occluded I know where to begin. All I ask is why does every thread turn into an AA debate, and I get an un-called-for mouthful from you, like ~days after the fact.... Get a fuckin' life or something.

[Anonymous]

Sorrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee!  I've just seen you throw out comments like that in any thread that AA comes up in.  Why not just avoid those threads if you're so bored by them?  I don't understand the need for you to run in and tell everyone how boring or overdone their[/u][/i] discussion is.  Does it make you feel better or something?  Every time?  It's like a little kid that keeps running into his parents room where the grownups are talking and yelling "you're boring, you suck!" and running back out.

Whatever blows your skirt up dude.

[Froderik]

in any thread

A gross exaggeration.

[Anonymous]

Fine, most.  At least any you come across.  Care to answer now?  Why do you feel the need to shit on a thread you find boring?  Or comment at all on it?

[Froderik]

Fine, most.  At least any you come across.  Care to answer now?  Why do you feel the need to shit on a thread you find boring?  Or comment at all on it?

What's funny is I think I know who you are, even though you are posting anonymously now. Familiarity and all of that, or maybe I'm more intuitive than I think.. guess you're bored at work and feel like giving ol' Frod a hard time?   You like a good debate, don't you, being so grown-up and all?  :roflmao:

Ask yourself: What do you care if I (froderik) complain now and then? Does it really matter that much? Is policing fornits that important to you?  

I know fornits is kind of your life and all, and you would like for people to behave the way you want them to on here, but it just isn't going to happen that way. Hell, if it isn't me, it would just be some other joker tormenting you!  :rofl:

[try another castle]

today's butthurt trophy goes to anon, who strives to preserve the sanctity of an AA discussion. Because lord knows, we haven't had one of those before, and we wouldnt want it sullied.

 :moon: congratulations.

[Froderik]

HAHAHAHA!!!! Right on, Castle!!  :roflmao:

In your FACE, anon!!!  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

[Anonymous]

What's funny is I think I know who you are, even though you are posting anonymously now. Familiarity and all of that, or maybe I'm more intuitive than I think..

 :eek: EEEEK!!!   What?  Am I supposed to be scared now??   :roflmao:

guess you're bored at work and feel like giving ol' Frod a hard time?   You like a good debate, don't you, being so grown-up and all?  :roflmao:

Actually I've been busy.  So far Ive made 6 deliveries and leaving for another 4.  How's work going for you?

Ask yourself: What do you care if I (froderik) complain now and then? Does it really matter that much? Is policing fornits that important to you?  

You could ask yourself the same question.  Why do you care so much if other people want to talk about it?

I know fornits is kind of your life and all,

Bwwahahahahahahahaha!!!  Now that's rich!!    Pot, meet kettle.   :beat:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

and you would like for people to behave the way you want them to on here, but it just isn't going to happen that way. Hell, if it isn't me, it would just be some other joker tormenting you!  :rofl:

Yeah, that's me alright.  I'm constantly trying to get others to behave.  Mmmmm hmmm.  Wow.  Your powers of perception are amazing.  

[Anonymous]

today's butthurt trophy goes to anon, who strives to preserve the sanctity of an AA discussion. Because lord knows, we haven't had one of those before, and we wouldnt want it sullied.

 :moon: congratulations.

Why thank you Castle!  I gratefully accept.  I'd like to thank Frod and Castle for the nod and votes.   But most of all I'd like to thank Jesus and Our Heavenly Father.

 :soapbox:

[Anonymous]

HAHAHAHA!!!! Right on, Castle!!  :roflmao:

In your FACE, anon!!!  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

You guys are cliquing. :jerry:

[Froderik]

Yeah, that's me alright. I'm constantly trying to get others to behave. Mmmmm hmmm. Wow. Your powers of perception are amazing.

Thank you! Yes, you DO try to get others to not post or say this or that, but seem to always fail miserably.  :rofl:

I couldn't begin to name every "debate" I've seen you engaged in. If it isn't one thing bothering you, it's another!  :on phone: