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Christine Lunn was sexually assaulted by a guy she was actua
« on: February 14, 2009, 02:24:58 AM »
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Re: Christine Lunn was sexually assaulted by a guy she was actua
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2009, 02:29:51 AM »
The Subject line has a character limit.  Please confine your defamation, insinuation, and character assassination to the body text.
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Re: Christine Lunn was sexually assaulted by a guy she was actua
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 02:14:21 AM »
Fuck you and your rude comments that are supposed to be funny, Psy. Fuck you and all you stupid moderators who won't just remove this kind of sadistic abuse of rape victims. This one and the one posted yesterday at 8:28. Fornits SUCKS. I hate ALL these programs, Miller Newton grosses me out so much I can't even watch that part of the 5th Estate story. I also hate the people who work for this fornits cult. HATE them. You have been SUCKERED by Ginger, or whoever, if you believe for one second that free speech has ANYTHING to do with letting hateful, abusive, sickening words by rapists and rape-apologists stand. IT. DOES. NOT. All you fucking sick fornits cult freaks do is make people numb to getting abused. You don't stand with anyone against anything, all you stand for is SICK.
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Re: Christine Lunn was sexually assaulted by a guy she was actua
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 02:37:48 AM »
I sympathize with ya, but you're mistaking the purpose of this forum for something else. This forum isn't a support group.  It's an ugly place for discussion about this issue, and the only way for that to be fair and open is if nobody gets to decide who can say what.  That's the domain of the program.  We don't control communication here.  This industry is not a nice thing. There is no point in sugarcoating it.  This thread documents just how low program supporters will stoop.  It demonstrates their ignorance and hatred.  It's important to record that.

I, personally, stand with plenty of people on plenty of issues.  What I don't demand is that everybody else tow that same line.  You are free to my opinions, I am free to mine, and the nut who posted this thread is free to his.  That's the antithesis of a cult where what everybody says is controlled (and by extension, what everybody thinks).

Am I numb?  That's a fair comment.  Can't say much at all shocks me anymore, but that's the nature of reality.  I'd rather face that than live life in a protective bubble.  If this site offends you so much, don't read it.  That's an luxury kids in a program don't have.

Here is ginger's note:

http://www.fornits.com/?p=8

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if you believe for one second that free speech has ANYTHING to do with letting hateful, abusive, sickening words by rapists and rape-apologists stand. IT. DOES. NOT.

Actually, it does.

“I May Detest What You Say, But I Will Defend To The Death Your Right To Say It” - Voltaire
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Re: Christine Lunn was sexually assaulted by a guy she was actua
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 04:25:38 AM »
This doesn't have anything to do with thinking fornits should be a support group. Yes, free speech IS denied by rapists and rape-apologists posting shit like they did on this thread and on at least one other recently. "The nut who posted" is NOT stating an "opinion." They are not even just engaging in annoying program flames like the title of "whine whine whine," which generally survivors can recognize as an old fart coming right out of Miller Newton's ass. What they are doing in titles on the thread like this one is viciously cruel abuse, and Fornits moderators all participate in that by refusing to take it down. Yes, you do. Grow up.

You people are too stupid to even make note of this shit and inform the proper authorities of the IP address. "Hunker and watch" while people die, that's what fornits is about. Ginger is a piece of trash who participates in bringing people - victims of the programs - down.

Don't tell me to go somewhere else for the news. You don't own this space, and neither does Ginger. You merely control it. You and all the Miller Newton cult freaks.

Biggest bully on the block wins, and if there's no highway cops out, it's Mad Max. Free speech my ass. Get an education.

Plus, you sound like a puppet of Ginger's. Get your own mind, too.
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Re: Christine Lunn was sexually assaulted by a guy she was actua
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 05:07:59 AM »
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This doesn't have anything to do with thinking fornits should be a support group. Yes, free speech IS denied by rapists and rape-apologists posting shit like they did on this thread and on at least one other recently.

I dont' see how that is so.  How is free speech denied?

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"The nut who posted" is NOT stating an "opinion." They are not even just engaging in annoying program flames like the title of "whine whine whine," which generally survivors can recognize as an old fart coming right out of Miller Newton's ass.

Fact and opinion, truth and falsity, is something for the courts to decide, not me, not you, and not Ginger.  I happen to agree that these threads are offensive.  I happen to agree that they contain statements of fact... but that has not been adjudicated in a court of law, nor has the truth or falsity of the statements.  I'm sure some program people find what is said offensive about them. I'm sure they dispute the truth of some of those statements too...  If we suddenly started taking sides, we'd have to censor both sides of the discussion.  Again, it's not my job, or yours, or Ginger's.  It's the court's.  This policy also gives Fornits "safe harbor" status under the communications decency act... meaning that since we don't moderate the content (approve or disapprove), we aren't legally liable for the content.

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What they are doing in titles on the thread like this one is viciously cruel abuse, and Fornits moderators all participate in that by refusing to take it down. Yes, you do. Grow up.

Even if I disagreed with Ginger's policies, they're her policies.  I just work here.

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You people are too stupid to even make note of this shit and inform the proper authorities of the IP address.

I hate to break it to you, but in the United States, libel is a civil, not a criminal matter.  There is no reason I have to report anything to the authorities.  If you wish to do so yourself, go right ahead.  Fornits complies with court orders and subpoenas (which is why we recommend those who want true anonymity use a proxy such as tor).

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"Hunker and watch" while people die, that's what fornits is about. Ginger is a piece of trash who participates in bringing people - victims of the programs - down.

No.  She provides an open, unmoderated, uncensored place where anybody can discuss anything.  Don't blame her for what individual posters say.  This is rampant talking out in group, nothing more.

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Don't tell me to go somewhere else for the news. You don't own this space, and neither does Ginger. You merely control it. You and all the Miller Newton cult freaks.

Well.. "abstain from controlling it" is more accurately what I do.

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Biggest bully on the block wins, and if there's no highway cops out, it's Mad Max. Free speech my ass. Get an education.

Mad Max, yes.  Or a biker bar.

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=26332&start=0

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Plus, you sound like a puppet of Ginger's. Get your own mind, too.

I'm flattered you would compare me to her.  She is somebody I look up to, that is true, but I do have my own mind and I do disagree with her on quite a few things.  That being said, this is her site and i simply "work here" enforcing her policicies.
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