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Joey brings the Hoffman Quadrinity Process to Hyde

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Anonymous:
I find very few parents today who have fully let go of their own parents

   Ha.  How much of Hyde is about Joey's unresolved feelings about his stepfather?

Anonymous:
I guess this doesnt apply to Gauld's OWN kids. Theyre still sucking off the teat, and selling Daddy's snake oil for their keep.

TheWho:
:guesswho:

Ursus:
Here are a couple of posts I came across in one of the Google Groups, from May 2003, describing some of what people considering the Hoffman Quadrinity Process might be in for. It's clearly a week-long LGAT, maybe even worse than the Landmark Forum.


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.angs ... b8ab9fd355

--- Quote from: "pinkorangered" ---
--- Quote from: "bukvich" ---That reminds me of something I have been meaning to pass along to you. In the Yalom textbook on group psychotherapy he has quite a few paragraphs on est and the forum. His view is that works by placebo effect and some sort of effort justification fallacy. You spent the dough and by golly you are going to get something out of it.
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I don't recall that approach being put forward either overtly or subliminally,
and in any case the money becomes the least of your sacrifices after...

--- Quote ---..(such as using fatigue and sustenance deprivation) to get their message across.
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But it probably accounts for why nobody stood up on the last day and took the
refund offer.  

Did I ever post about the Hoffman Quadrinity camp?  Now those guys had the
deprivation thing all worked out, and for a whole week.  Apparently the last
night is musical bunks, or so my friend says.  I only lasted one session and
scarpered.  She got her brains shagged out, or at least that's what I assume
happened to them.
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--- Quote from: "pinkorangered" ---They read you the constitution in the first session:

You will surrender your tobacco, coffee or alcohol supplies forthwith. Show us your meds. For the next week you will not smoke, meditate, pray, have sex, masturbate, exercise, do yoga; and you will not consume any substance which we did not give you. You must surrender all communications devices. You may not make phone calls unless it's an emergency. You will not speak to other particiapnts except when we say so.

That reduced a few to tears. Then we did a rebirthing pantomime with a total negative spin to the point of suggesting you were conceived by rape, which took care of about 2/3 of the group. Then came the gestalt stuff where we had to beat the fuck out of our parents with a cricket bat.

Their contention of course was that all our angst is unresolved hatred of our parents, and they will teach us to forgive. They prove this scientifically with a lengthy questionnaire where you tick all your negative traits and experiences, then do the same for your parents and your parents parents. Simple aritmetic proves a correlation. I couldn't believe nobody pointed out how bogus this all was, but maybe they couldn't believe I didn't point it out either.

This, incidentally, is how performance hypnotists operate. Nobody is going to stand in front of an audience of paying believers and TV cameras and say "no I won't bark like a dog, you're a tool and this is a sham". It's much safer to bark like a dog.

So I split at bedtime on day 1. They tried very hard tp pursuade me to stay and to find out who I was writing for. A week later they refunded half my money.

Of course I cannot tell you this, I signed a confidentiality agreement.
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Anonymous:
Hey that sounds like Hyde.  I have heard the "effort justification fallacy" from a number of former ... students, but I never knew there was a name for it.  You spend all that time and effort coping with the system , it must mean something.  And yeah it did, just not what they told you it was.  Any number of experiences will strengthen your character. Ask Elie Wiesel.  "To remain silent and indifferent is the greatest sin of all."

NHB

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