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TheWho:

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But why? Why is it our responsibility or concern? Especially given your parenthetical.
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Because they are one of our allies and it is our duty. Palestine is not an ally.

Ultimately, there is no contradiction between support for Israel and support for Palestine, for Israeli security and Palestinian rights are not mutually exclusive but mutually dependent on each other. I think after Obama takes office there will be a big push to change US policy regarding Israel. The US constantly undermines any grass root peace efforts on the streets of Israel and this will not be tolerated in the next administration. I also think (hoping) that Obama will change to a “Tough Love” approach to the problem and provide unconditional support for Israel's right to live in peace and security within its internationally recognized border, but an equally clear determination to end the occupation.

Anonymous:
If that were true, then why is the US talking about withholding a billion dollars in loan guarantees over the settlement issue? Just for show in the twilight hour?

Anonymous:

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--- Quote from: "aiudni" ---
But why? Why is it our responsibility or concern? Especially given your parenthetical.
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Because they are one of our allies and it is our duty. Palestine is not an ally.

Ultimately, there is no contradiction between support for Israel and support for Palestine, for Israeli security and Palestinian rights are not mutually exclusive but mutually dependent on each other. I think after Obama takes office there will be a big push to change US policy regarding Israel. The US constantly undermines any grass root peace efforts on the streets of Israel and this will not be tolerated in the next administration. I also think (hoping) that Obama will change to a “Tough Love” approach to the problem and provide unconditional support for Israel's right to live in peace and security within its internationally recognized border, but an equally clear determination to end the occupation.
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But what about all the UN resolutions that Israel has refused to abide by? I mean afterall we invaded Iraq, at least in part, because Saddam wouldn't comply with them. Here's what I found with just a quick Google search. A few stand out.

And this only includes those passed by the Security Council, not the many vetoed by the U.S.:
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UN Security Council Resolutions that Israel didn’t comply with:

SC Res. 237 (June 14, 1967): return of Palestinian inhabitants who fled from their homes.

SC Res. 242 (Nov. 22, 1967): "inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war" and
"withdrawal of Israeli forces from territories occupied in the conflict…"

SC Res. 252 (May 21, 1968): rescind measures changing legal status of Jerusalem and to end
its expropriation of land and properties.

SC Res. 267 (July 3, 1969): rescind measures changing legal status of Jerusalem.

SC Res. 271 (Sept. 15, 1969): rescind measures on Jerusalem and observe provisions of
Geneva Conventions and international law governing military occupation.

SC Res. 298 (Sept. 25, 1971): rescind measures on Jerusalem that "change the status quo of
the City."

SC Res. 338 (Oct. 22, 1973): implement SC resolution 242 (1967) "in all its parts."

SC Res. 368 (April 17, 1975): Israel must implement 242/338.

SC Res. 369 (May 28, 1974): implement 242/338.

SC Res. 371 (July 24, 1975): implement 242/338.

SC Res. 378 (Oct. 23, 1975): implement 242/338.

SC Res. 390 (May 28, 1976): implement 242/338

SC Res. 396 (Oct. 22, 1976): implement 242/338.

SC Res. 398 (Nov. 30, 1976): implement 242/338.

SC Res. 420 (Nov. 30, 1977): implement 242/338.

SC Res. 446 (March 22, 1979): deplores failure of Israel to abide by 237 and 252; end
settlement activities in the occupied territories.(still)

SC Res. 452 (July 20, 1979): end settlement activities in occupied territories, including
Jerusalem.

SC Res. 462 (March 1, 1980): dismantle existing settlements.

SC Res. 468 (May 8, 1980): stop expulsions

SC Res. 469 (May 20, 1980): stop expulsions

SC Res. 471 (June 5, 1980): comply with Geneva Conventions; protect Palestinians;
occupation must end.

SC Res. 476 (June 30, 1980): comply with Geneva Conventions; occupation must end.

SC Res. 478 (Aug. 20, 1980): declares new basic law for Jerusalem null and void.

SC Res. 484 (Dec. 19, 1980): let the expelled return.

SC Res. 592 (Dec. 8, 1986): comply with Geneva Conventions.

SC Res. 607 (Jan. 5, 1988): protect Palestinians.

SC Res. 608 (Jan. 14, 1988): no expulsions.

SC Res. 636 (July 6, 1989): no expulsions.

SC Res. 641 (Aug. 30, 1989): no expulsions.

SC Res 672 (Oct. 12, 1990): deplores massacre, sending UN mission.

SC Res 673 (Oct. 24, 1990): sending UN Mission.

SC Res. 681 (Dec. 20, 1990): deplores expulsions.

SC Res. 694 (May 24, 1991): no expulsions.

SC Res. 726 (Jan. 6, 1992: comply with Geneva Conventions. No expulsions.

SC Res. 799 (Dec. 18, 1992): no expulsions.

SC Res. 904 (March 18, 1994): protect Palestinians.

SC Res. 1073 (Sept. 28, 1996): protect Palestinians.

SC Res. 1081 (Nov. 27, 1996): implement 242/338.

SC 1265 (Sept. 17, 1999): implement Hague Conventions and Geneva Conventions.

SC Res. 1322 (Oct. 7, 2000): condemns excessive force; comply with Geneva Conventions.

SC Res. 1397 (March 12, 2002): calls for two-state solution.

SC Res. 1402 (March 30, 2002): withdraw from Palestinian cities.

SC Res. 1403 (April 4, 2002): implement 1402.

SC Res. 1405 (April 19, 2002): lift restrictions on Jenin; send fact-finding team.

SC Res. 1435 (Sept. 24 2002): cease the destruction of the Palestinian civilian and security
infrastructure in Ramallah and withdraw from Palestinian cities.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "au;ifenrl;" ---But what about all the UN resolutions that Israel has refused to abide by? I mean afterall we invaded Iraq, at least in part, because Saddam wouldn't comply with them.
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The U.N.? Shit, the U.N. is incapable of anything. Those people love living in the City because most of their home countries are shit holes. The U.N. is bumbling, corrupt, incapable of anything worthwhile. Rwanda. Kosovo is still a mess and Clark, Clinton and Albright should be tried as war criminals. What will U.N. backing do? Have you heard about Christian churches being torched in the former Yugoslavia by Muslims? Wait, the U.N. was there, but the U.N. troops ran away, now you have a big mess. Where is the outcry over that? Probably none becuase the U.N. loves dead Christians. Kick the U.N. the fuck out of New York, get some taxes from that property for the City coffers, that would be something worthwhile, the U.N. is a joke and people like Hussein know/knew it. How many U.N. resolutions did Saddam blow off?

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