Author Topic: The industry wants to be on Fornits wiki (Read 6399 times)

Ursus · « **Reply #15 on:** November 26, 2008, 03:34:33 PM »

For posterity's sake, here is the listing they put on the Maine Craigslist (in the category of "therapeutic services":

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First Step Youth Transportation Company (Nationwide)
Reply to: firststepyouthtransportation@yahoo.com [?]
Date: 2008-11-14, 2:13PM EST

Providing Sincere, Affordable, Family Orientated and Empathic Transportation is our mission. We believe in family and the tough choices, we, as parents have to make. Your son/daughter will be accompanied from your residence to your specified destination with the upmost respect and dignity for all parties involved.

In every transport per company policies, it is Mandatory that we have a minimal of one team member that is a certified medication technician, MANDT Trained, as well as First Aid and CPR Certified. We can and will provide proof of these certifications upon request. In addition all company vehicles contain a fully stocked first Aid Kit at all times.

Our vehicles are top notch to ease your child during this difficult time. Each vehicle is equipped with a DVD player, pillows, blankets and snacks. To help ease the parents, we transport in sturdy and reliable vehicles that are supported by today's navigational and security technology.

First Step Youth Transportation is a partnership. We, as owners received our training from one of the best in the industry, Safe and Sound Youth Transportation. We decided that we would open our own company based on our passion for helping at risk youths and their families. The majority of our team members are parents or step parents themselves. We understand and strive to help you and your son or daughter at one of the most trying and painful times.

Location: Nationwide
it's ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
License info: All Maine State and Federal Regulations

PostingID: 919062074

Copyright © 2008 craigslist, inc.

Ursus · « **Reply #16 on:** November 26, 2008, 03:54:38 PM »

The company that allegedly "trained" First Step Youth Transportation Company is Safe and Sound Youth Transportation, Inc, this latter company being advertised on at least one of Sue Scheff's many websites.

Ursus · « **Reply #17 on:** November 26, 2008, 04:13:28 PM »

First Step Youth Transportation particulars:

www.firststepyouthtransportation.com
http://youthsatrisk.com/

Both sites were created on October 2, 2008, and registered through GoDaddy by

Souza, Doug http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-s ... tation.com
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-s ... atrisk.com

Anonymous · « **Reply #18 on:** November 26, 2008, 05:56:51 PM »

Rotsne, your English sucks. Protecting pages means that suckitude becomes uneditable. I know, gotta protect it from the programmies, but still...

Speaking of which, Fornits members (here's looking at you, Ursus) really need to go through and fix some of this shit. The Wiki is in bad shape. Data of your variety has a better home in an encyclopedic format than in forum posts.

psy · « **Reply #19 on:** November 26, 2008, 10:27:35 PM »

Quote from: "Guest"

Rotsne, your English sucks.

Perhaps, but he is a first class researcher. Which reminds me... Rotsne. Can you email me. I got a job for you that I think you'll be interested in.

Ursus · « **Reply #20 on:** November 26, 2008, 11:41:14 PM »

From improving corporate culture to getting teens in the juvenile justice system to cooperate with you, this Canadian company has got ya covered.

Mandt Systems — http://www.mandtsystem.com/

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Overview

The Mandt System® is a systematic training program designed to help you de-escalate yourself and other people (e.g., co-workers, spouse, children, friends, clients, patients, residents, students, etc.) when you or they have difficulty managing their own behavior. We believe that until you and the other person are de-escalated, no training (i.e., behavior program, etc.) or work will take place. The Mandt System® blends well with a Behavior Support approach.

The Mandt System® teaches the use of a graded system of alternatives which uses the least amount of external management necessary in all situations. The entire philosophy of The Mandt System® is based on the principle that all people have the right to be treated with dignity and respect. You may know or work daily with someone who has some kind of disability (e.g., chemical dependency, developmental disability, mental illness, physically handicapped, learning disability, physically abused, sexually abused, head trauma, behaviorally disordered, hearing impaired, visually impaired, etc.). We believe that all individuals should be seen as people first and that every person has the right to a personal identity, the right to normalization, and the right to the least restrictive and most appropriate environment.

Ursus · « **Reply #21 on:** November 26, 2008, 11:53:40 PM »

History

In 1975 we were asked to design a systematic training program for the staff at residential facilities supporting people affected by intellectual disabilities, developmental disabilities, and mental health, as well as for the staff at community mental health centers. The development and subsequent refinement of the system have resulted in a course of effective and affordable training using graded alternatives that can be used by any facility or agency likely to encounter the problem of aggressive or uncooperative behavior among its people. Some of the facilities and agencies that have used our training include mental health centers, developmental centers, sheltered workshops, group homes, long term care setting, general hospitals, substance abuse centers, psychiatric hospitals, dementia units, school districts, college and university security departments, juvenile and adult corrections units, city and county jails, sheriff departments, city and state police departments, or anyone who has a need to know how to support a person who for any reason is having difficulty managing his or her own behavior.

Ursus · « **Reply #22 on:** November 27, 2008, 12:18:05 AM »

Despite the header of all webpages being "The Mandt System® — Canada | Building healthy relationships since 1975," the Texas connection is more than accidental:

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Development

David H. Mandt, Sr. has more than thirty years of experience working with and for people who are affected by disabilities. Some of his experience is working with people who have problems managing their own behaviors. He is the President of David Mandt and Associates, a specialized training and consulting firm in the Dallas, Texas, area. He is the author of The Mandt System®.

Mr. Mandt has earned a Masters degree in Professional Development from Amberton University and has done graduate work at Dallas Theological Seminary, both in Dallas, Texas. He holds a B.S. degree in Communication from The University of Texas at Austin in Austin, Texas. He has also done undergraduate work at Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia, and at Miami Dade Community College in Miami, Florida.

While serving with the U.S. Army Special Forces (Green Berets), he received Airborne, Ranger, Rigger, Mountain, and Medical training. His training and experience in gymnastics competition and sports instruction provide a wide background in body mechanics and movement. Mr. Mandt served as an instructor for self-defense classes at a university, a community college, a YMCA, and an elementary school.

His education and diverse work experience provide a practical foundation for effective communication of the concepts presented in The Mandt System®. Since 1975, The Mandt System® has been in use throughout the United States, parts of Canada and Great Britain, as well as presented at various local, state, regional, national, and international conventions, on radio and television interviews, and at numerous individual agencies and facilities. Mr. Mandt is or has been a member of the American Association on Mental Retardation, the Arc, TASH, The National Alliance for the Mentally Ill, The Child Welfare League of America and the American Society of Training and Development.

Ursus · « **Reply #23 on:** November 27, 2008, 12:54:27 AM »

Philosophy

The entire philosophy of The Mandt System® "Putting People First" is based on the principle that all people have the right to be treated with dignity and respect. We believe that all individuals should be seen as people first and that everyone has the right to a personal identity, the right to normalization, and the right to the least restrictive and most appropriate environment. We believe in "Person Directed Planning" that will support people affected by disabilities, and these individuals must receive training to achieve empowerment in decision making and self-management, problem-solving, coping skills, social skills, and nonverbal and verbal skills.

The Mandt System® "Putting People First" is utilized within a conceptual framework that understands that all behaviors serve a purpose. At times, that purpose may not be readily visible or apparent, but that does not change the fact that the behavior serves a purpose; it merely means that the purpose may not be known. The central issue is defining the purpose of a particular behavior for a particular individual, and what intervention and behavior support is the "best practice" for that person.

The most effective strategy for managing challenging behavior(s) is based in prevention, early interaction, and de-escalation before the behavior escalates. We believe this involves developing a relationship with people by meeting each person's needs, which will provide the best possible care, welfare, safety, and security for the staff as well as the people they support and provide care for on a daily basis. Physical interaction should be used only as a last resort when people are presenting a danger to themselves or others, or in cases of extreme property damage, and should be used only until the person is out of danger.

This quote, which sums up our philosophy, is from Roger D. MacNamara.
"The manner by which we treat people in our personal and occupational lives reflects or denies the truth of our commitment to human dignity and respect for individual worth."

What do you believe are the most important factors in effective, safe behavior interactions?

A fully implemented and organizationally supported crisis prevention and management system that supports the mission of the agency and is developmentally appropriate for the person(s) served. The training must be adequate, on going and effective. The whole system should be monitored by a critical incident monitoring system that feeds back important information into the system. All staff must have the ability to manage themselves first as well as the ability to accurately and quickly assess situations. They must also possess a repertoire of verbal and physical interactions and feel confident in those skills. If physical interaction is required, staff must use the least amount of physical interaction necessary to manage the situation by using passive, non-pain producing, and non-hyperextension techniques.

Ursus · « **Reply #24 on:** November 27, 2008, 01:03:07 AM »

Locations

Mandt System - US
P.O. Box 831790
Richardson, TX 75083-1790
Phone: (972) 495-0755 | Fax: (903) 568-4795 (New-Please note change)
Call Toll Free @ 1 (800) 810-0755

Mandt System - Canada
P.O. Box 6695
Drayton Valley, AB T7A 1S1
Phone: (780) 542-8219 | Fax: (780) 542-8217
Website: http://canada.mandtsystem.com

Anonymous · « **Reply #25 on:** November 28, 2008, 09:24:58 AM »

I feel it is time to stop this nonsense. I agree with free speech and parents being cautious about hiring a company such as ours. The address below will prove and answer any questions about our liscenses and insurance. WE ARE THE ONLY LISCENSED AND INSURED YOUTH TRANSPORTATION COMPANY IN THE STATE OF MAINE.Obviously some one is using us to make themselves look better. As a company we refuse to degrade ourselves by belittling other companies because that truely is bad business and we do not have to lie, cheat or lower our standards to prove our ability. We started our own company because we did not believe in some of the ethical procedures that were going on in the industry. Please contact the individual listed below for specific questions concerning our criteria.

Patrick L Malloy
Motor Vehicle Central Office Manager I
Motor Carrier Services
Phone: 624-9058
Fax: 622-5332
E-mail: patrick.malloy@maine.gov

I do not feel like from this point on I need to defend our company. I know we are legal and telling the truth concerning our ability.

To any parents reading this please contact us and we will provide proof of our MANDT training as well as provide references. As parents, we understand your position.

Most Respectfully,
Owners of First Step Youth Transportation Company

psy · « **Reply #26 on:** November 28, 2008, 10:09:00 AM »

Here is what I don't get: Why would a competitor come on here and advertise for you? Because that is what was originally posted. Personally, and this is just a theory: you or one of your employees came on here to advertise (as you just did in your post above in that shoutout to parents), perhaps not realizing what sort of site this was (or the wiki), perhaps thinking the wiki was un-tended and the advertisement wold be ignored. When suddenly you start getting all this unwanted attention, you decide to deny ever writing the thing in the first place. That sounds like the most probable explanation for what's going on. If I'm wrong, please, by all means explain what did happen.

psy · « **Reply #27 on:** November 28, 2008, 10:28:14 AM »

Another tidbit supporting the above theory. According to the history on the user talk page on the fornits wiki, On 15 Nov, 2008, the user "First Step Youth Transportation Comapny" created this entry.

History log line:

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23:57, 15 November 2008 First Step Youth Transportation Comapny (Talk | contribs) (1,044 bytes) (Youth transportation,At Risk Youth Transportaion, Sincere Affordable, Family Orientated and Empathetic Transportation)

The entry, clearly an advertisement, states:

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"We Offer… Sincere, Affordable, Family-orientated and Empathetic Transportation, At a time when you as a parent feel like this is a no win situation. Thankfully, there is a way that we can ease this troubling time. We cannot promise that this won’t be hard but we can make it a little easier. Choose First Step to take your son/daughter on the road to a better life. Our transportation environment is calm and positive at all times. Your son/daughter will be informed about their destination. Our team encourages conservation in hopes that we can help your son/ daughter to understand why they are being transported and that it was not an easy decision for you to make.

First Step Youth transportation has a set of regulations and expectations that are part of each and every transport consistently. A complete list will be supplied for upon request.

Our team will transport your youth to and from any locations that you specify. We would like to help you and your family get back on the right road. Take the “First Step” and call us "

Just today, that same user removed all the content from the page in an apparent effort to back out of what had been done:

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23:42, 27 November 2008 First Step Youth Transportation Comapny (Talk | contribs) (empty) (Removing all content from page)

If, indeed, a competitor had created that account under your name and created that advertisement in your name in an effort to raise a stink here, why then would that same competitor be trying to erase the page now? I hate to say it, but it really looks like you're lying on this one.

Anonymous · « **Reply #28 on:** November 28, 2008, 10:50:18 AM »

I would like to offer evidence to corroborate Psy's theory, which is more commonly known as the obvious.

And why the fuck would you namedrop the fucking motor carrier services guy here? (Why the fuck would you namedrop anyone here-- anyone you like, anyway?) Does he know what your actual business is?

Do any of you have a functioning, fully-formed brain not poisoned by alcohol?

Hmm, there's an easy way to resolve this: How about you post your name and address here, so we know that you're the real deal? What could go wrong?

psy · « **Reply #29 on:** November 28, 2008, 11:03:39 AM »

Even more evidence to support the theory that First Step Youth Transportation Company is who made that advertisement. See this revision made to the First Step fornits wiki page.

http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title ... oldid=1562

this

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|Insurance||Information about insurance can not be found on the webpage

was changed to this:

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|Insurance||Company is liscensed and mandated by all Federal and State regulations. They are the only liscensed youth transportation company in the state of Maine.

by the user "First Step Youth Transportation Comapny" (PS, licensed isn't spelled that way either.)

Which is damn near identical to:

Quote from: "Co owner of First Step Youth Transportation COMPAN"

WE ARE THE ONLY LISCENSED AND INSURED YOUTH TRANSPORTATION COMPANY IN THE STATE OF MAINE.

(the above guest)
I say we leave it here. It's pretty obvious who put that advertisement on the wiki.

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