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Castle's rant on CA prop 8. I now pronounce you nothing.
try another castle:
Yup, it passed. Thanks to out-of-state influence mostly. Queers can't marry... in California. California? Wait, isn't that the faggot state? Yes.. Yes it is.
I know there are a lot of people who say "well, fuck marriage anyway. why do gays want to have to deal with the same bullshit that hetero couples do?" You know, the whole jaded, marriage-is-a-totally-fucked-up-institution-anyway, thing.
Well, you kow what? Fuck you. I'm not getting any younger ok? I want someone who is legally obligated to stick around and love me until I die... or until I piss them off enough that they have to divorce me.
You would think that I would have a better chance of being able to legally marry someone, since I'm "bi", (I prefer the term "equal opportunity") But no. I'm also trans. and since I'm trans, there is a bit of an inconsistency regarding what sex the law views me as. One thing I do know is that a marriage between a woman, and someone who was born a woman but is now a man, is still technically a same-sex marriage. However, I can also easily have my drivers license say "M" instead of "F". All I need is a note from a doctor. I can also have my birth certificate changed to say that I was born male to begin with. That, however, will not alter the law which says that a marriage between a woman and an FTM is same-sex. What it *could* do is also make it impossible for me to marry a man.
And this, my friends, is where identity politics falls flat on its face. I can't get married, because some dumbfucks in legislation and idiot voters haven't even bothered to consider how goddamn irrelevant gender is when it comes to marriage, anyway. OMG, you married someone of the same sex, so you're gay, and you married someone of the opposite sex, so you're straight. So what does this mean when I tromp into city hall with either a man or a woman in tow, and demand to be married. Am I both a dyke with a chick and a faggot with a dude? Regardless of either, it's nobody's damn business anyway. And if there was no idea or belief that there is any difference between a "gay" and "straight" marriage, or (dare I say) a "gay" and "straight" ANYTHING, I might actually be able to call someone my wife or husband.
If the voters and legislature in this country can't even come to an agreement on whether or not it's ok for certain people to marry based on their gender preference, AND WHY THIS SHOULD EVEN BE AN ISSUE OR WHY ANYONE SHOULD EVEN CARE. I have little faith that they would even be able to wrap their raisin-sized brains around what the fuck *I'm* supposed to be and whether or not I'm even allowed to betrothe something that is human.
psy:
Here is what you can do to help strike back at those who did this:
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dishdutyfugitive:
So what's the latest on the marriages performed in SF? Are they void?
Raisin brain is right. Prop 8 is clear evidence we're barely evolved. How is this not discrimination?
The gang - the government - no difference. It makes me 1%
iamartsy:
Castle,
You are awesome. Seriously. I agree 100%.
There was a case in TX years back where a trans married a same sex person. You can find the article in The Texas Observer http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=1816. It is my favorite liberal news magazine.
Ursus:
At least one of the folks that ultimately brought us Provo Canyon School is indirectly behind all this. One of the founders, forget which one, was involved with those experiments on gays at Brigham Young University where they tried to make them go straight by way of all sorts of coercive and inhumane means (including electric shock)... There were quite a number of suicides as a result of this sick endeavor. "The Values Institute," was it? I don't have time to go looking for it now, but the most righteous of the Mormons are very vehemently against gay marriage...
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