In this post, regarding speculations, I am referring to those made about Straight, including the thread title.
I get really angry about this kind of thread. Do any of the people posting here have proof, like CIA or FBI Freedom of Information Act Searches that PROVE that there were more ultimate goals than simply those exercised at the time of operation, ie, recruitment, control of clients, propagation of program? I mean, people here making statements like "information was gathered", well does that mean personal information? Or what?
I'm not angry because I don't think it is POSSIBLE, nor because I don't like slander of US Government entities. Also, I have no proof that is IS slander.
People ought to be clear about their speculations. Whether this response is rational or not, sometimes I feel like screaming at people who post these kinds of speculations. If you have the facts, post them. If you have the documents proving your specific conjectures, post them. Otherwise it's false advertisement, it's hype, it is not fair to people who have suffered so much. But hey, I SPECULATE as well.
Also, I don't get the back and forth betw Woof and Anti regarding the Nixon Ford administration. That congress document said, this is thought reform, and we can't put govt money into it, and, if I have correct notes, it said therefore we have to stop giving govt money to The Seed.
Set aside taking personally this poster's emotional reaction to some of the contents of this thread. I find memories especially painful recently. I am frustrated by the lack of real, solid information about what they were doing and why. I SPECULATE that specific scenarios of torture were played out on certain victims, whether for future game or for an even darker brainwashing/mind control tactic simply ingrained into the "game" being played there.
Whether or not anyone's speculations are accurate, I think the overarching theme of this post might be that the abuse continues for us, no matter how long ago we were in one of the Straight programs, while those who perpetrated what they did still have "the information" and don't give it to us. We don't have closure, which, after being tortured in this Stadt, we should have. We absolutely should have all information. It is inhuman that we do not have all the information. I am angry about this. Who are the watchdogs of such malice aforethought and fraud against citizens? Who are the watchdogs?
Sometimes I think of Straight as sort of like a hyper-blast of a certain culture. So now it's like, oh no, I'm sick of some or many things in the culture I live in, I already ate way too much of that.
Anyways, it isn't helpful to get "information" that is only speculation, but it does reveal the deficit. I also consider that people might be referring obliquely to something personal they know about, like a specific piece of personal information Straight got and used against them later. I can see they might have really wanted to do this to staff to keep them shut up when they did leave Straight. If people don't want to post such personal examples, I can get that. If they have discussed amongst themselves and found some patterns there but don't really want to talk about personal examples, I can get that.
Just don't paint walls around people, don't tell them where the new sets of double doors are and shit. It isn't responsible. 'Cause, at least on rainy days, we could have stopped into the warehouse and played some basketball, and that's all.