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Who are the doctors at PFC?
« on: October 23, 2008, 03:03:27 AM »
Does anyone have the information of the names of the doctors who are working for Pathways/KHK. Please post, they are not listed by name on the PFC site. If anyone has the additional information of the psychiatrist or psychologist names, please post.

There are a few reasons to get this information public. First of all, the you tube video showing footage from the inside of the program proves that it is Straight, Inc. I expect those individuals with medical professional certifications to be held accountable by their certifying boards for participating in the child abuse inherent in these institutions. Second of all, Dr. Richard H. Schwartz, one of the physicians working at the Virginia facility of Straight in the 1980's was highly unethically involving minor children in medical research without their consent. We should track down any possible recurrences of such exploitation.

Also, is there a reason why ODADAS (and/or the equivalent Michigan) does not know that the minors at Pathways are denied their right to go to school?
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Dr. Schwartz
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 10:26:11 AM »
Quote from: "guest"
Second of all, Dr. Richard H. Schwartz, one of the physicians working at the Virginia facility of Straight in the 1980's was highly unethically involving minor children in medical research without their consent.
As a Str8 VA inmate from that time, I'd like to know a little more about this... thanks.
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Re: Who are the doctors at PFC?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 12:39:48 PM »
Details........PLEASE, What sort of "research", I hope better done than the str8 model "therapy".
 What was Dr schwartz' actual ethical violation? Spcifically what? DO TELL.
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Re: Who are the doctors at PFC?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2008, 04:21:22 PM »
Start with this link

http://www.thestraights.com/people/medi ... search.htm

then almost at the bottom of that page there is a hyperlink highlighted in blue to a paper by Peter Miller on the nature of Schwartz' ethical violations.


As a survivor of Straight, and as a sometime student of human-studying subjects like sociology and psychology, I would like to comment on what bothers me about this. First of all, Schwartz without a doubt crossed a big line. And that is, you have to have uncoerced consent to do any kind of research on humans, even if it is counting how many times the people on the first row of blue chairs pick their noses as compared to the last row of chairs. Now, you yourself can carry a pad and pencil around all day long taking notes on things people do and sit down to dinner with friends and family and talk about it, not a problem. But you cannot, not even for a low-level university course, have and use these notes, your observations - and this would absolutely include the kind of survey research Schwartz was into - without consent, and without submitting some kind of Human Subjects Research Protocol permission form to the appropriate agency for review. Your subject(s) has to sign a form, at their own true will.

Next, there is the aspect that Schwartz USED us for his own gain, to get published. He did his so-called science on us, he got his name in research journals, and advanced his own career. Probably anyone familiar with the sum totality of coercion at Straight will see right off that if minors are in a thought reform program they are inherently abused, inherently coerced, and therefore are inherently unable to give consent. Interestingly, the website of his current workplace, advancedpediatrics.com, reveals that the pediatric clinic is involved in research. No, not just interestingly, but of serious concern. Because as far as I know, Schwartz has never apologized for his involvement, spoken out about the abuse, or in any other way given any indication that he is not just as much and easily involved in ethically corrupt research practices. So he is probably the kind of person that feels he has a more special vision of what is necessary than those from whom he is obligated to get fully informed and uncoerced consent. In other words, this ratty-rat-rat has never sat against a wall and done a good think on what he did wrong back in the 1980s at Backlick Road in Springfield. And I find that irritating.

Also irritating is that, to us, he represents his profession, both as a doctor of person medicine and as a researcher using human subjects. He violates twice our sense of trust in the greater society.

I am disturbed, very disturbed, that Straight, Inc., even HAD a Director of Medical Research position (I haven't finished looking into who was in this position). Again, you MAY NOT conduct research on humans without following established protocol, one key point of this being that you must have the consent of your subject. Just like as in a legal contract, the subject has to be uncoerced and be of sound mind and body, all that.

And beyond that I am disturbed that they were "studying" us regarding suicide and cutting, among other things.

Personally, I have seen at least on published journal report by or using Schwartz' research, and I thought it was whack science.

Before I sign off, I would like to say, I think by my wording of the original post, saying that Schwartz was involved in "highly" unethical research, I probably got people thinking that he was pumping us with drugs without our informed and proper consent, and then studying the effects, or that he was involved in some shady shits with, say, the CIA, really taking even a few people and seriously studying the before and after and the long term effects of what was at that time already known to be thought reform, experimental in nature, and potentially very damaging. But surely those adults involved would draw the line at making a child client wear nothing but a diaper in front of other child clients.
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Re: Who are the doctors at PFC?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2008, 10:28:55 AM »
Well, them doctors at PFC sure have the cure for addiction down like a science now...

http://www.post-trib.com/news/opinion/1 ... it.article


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Re: Who are the doctors at PFC?
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2008, 04:43:01 AM »
Well, at KHK I have the names of two doctors and a lady:

1. Dr. Richard Heyman, pediatrician (formerly Straight Cincinnati Doctor, also on the KHK BOD) - KHK

2. Dr. Marlene Schmidt, child psychiatrist - KHK

3. Kathy Row, Vice president of clinical services - PFC

I have no idea if they are still there or how often they frequent the program.

I have also seen a black lady leaving KHK recently, self proclaimed as the program nurse. Don't have a name yet. Don't know if she still has a job there?????
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Re: Who are the doctors at PFC?
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2008, 05:00:18 AM »
And I think PFC is teaching the kids in-house like a lot of programs around the country. I know one of these so-called teachers is a fundamentalist christian who is allowed to practice his religion right along with his academic teaching at PFC.  I find it interesting that this guy and Monica Mertens -KHK- seem to have extreme religious connections prior to working for this program. Kevin Beatty once told me at a protest that he was a "good Christian" as if that would make my boo boo feel all better. So it looks like fundamentalists/extremist religious folks might be drawn to the sick program modality and ok with it. This is just a loose hypothesis but it is looking like a trend.

I have heard recent reports that the schooling completely sucks and is sub-par at PFC. From the grammar I am seeing from recent graduates, I would assume this is true.

More pFC peeps:

Ms. Hilger - therapist - PFC
Nurse Bateman - PFC
Mr. Beasley - teacher - PFC
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Re: Who are the doctors at PFC?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2008, 12:42:09 PM »
the two "chosen" ones at the ONDCP photo op with "W" at the White House in 2007 were from PFC and Teen Challenge. They are working hand in hand, apparently, and maybe someone could link them up somehow...

Now, David Key is rumored to have used to been in straight inc and he's been reported to be doing actual psycho therapy at PFC or with them at his place or some combination thereof so you might look into that.


 A Long-Term Family-Oriented Treatment for Adolescents with Substance-Related Disorders: An Outcome Study
Journal   Child and Adolescent Social Work Journal
Publisher   Springer Netherlands
ISSN   0738-0151 (Print) 1573-2797 (Online)
Issue   Volume 21, Number 3 / June, 2004
DOI   10.1023/B:CASW.0000028455.18661.bd
Pages   265-284
Subject Collection   Behavioral Science
SpringerLink Date   Monday, November 29, 2004


Mark Deskovitz1 Contact Information, David E. Key2, Elizabeth M. Hill3 and John T. Franklin3
(1)    University of Detroit Mercy and Pathway Family Center. Department of Psychology, Central Michigan University, Sloan Hall 101, Mt. Pleasant, MI, 48858
(2)    Pathway Family Center, USA
(3)    University of Detroit Mercy, USA

Abstract  Treatment programs for substance-disordered adolescents increasingly use family and Twelve-Step orientations. Pathway Family Center adds to that model a long term stay (9 to 15 months), a day treatment setting, and the unique feature of temporarily placing the client with the family of another client who has progressed further in the program. This outcome study surveyed the 100 clients and their parents from the first five years of the program, using mailed questionnaires and telephone interviews. Information was collected from 51% of clients and 61% of parents, and client-parent agreement was high. Ninety-eight percent of adolescents reported that they did not return to prior drug severity, 51% reported no use since discharge, 23% reported one or two relapses, 88.2% reported improved family relations, and 90.2% reported improved quality of life. In comparing those who remained completely abstinent with those who relapsed, the non-relapsers were twice as likely to have a diagnosis of uni-polar depression at admission. We hypothesize that the depression is associated with ldquohitting bottom,rdquo an indication that the client may be motivated to commit to major change. These outcomes compare very favorably with those of other adolescent treatment programs.
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Re: Who are the doctors at PFC?
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2008, 12:49:30 PM »
Quote from: "wdtony"
Well, at KHK I have the names of two doctors and a lady:

1. Dr. Richard Heyman, pediatrician (formerly Straight Cincinnati Doctor, also on the KHK BOD) - KHK

2. Dr. Marlene Schmidt, child psychiatrist - KHK

3. Kathy Row, Vice president of clinical services - PFC

I have no idea if they are still there or how often they frequent the program.

I have also seen a black lady leaving KHK recently, self proclaimed as the program nurse. Don't have a name yet. Don't know if she still has a job there?????

Schmidt was still there when I was at KHK.  She came once every few weeks, clients could put in for a visit with her, but it was ultimately up to staff if they got it.  

Quote from: "wdtony"
And I think PFC is teaching the kids in-house like a lot of programs around the country. I know one of these so-called teachers is a fundamentalist christian who is allowed to practice his religion right along with his academic teaching at PFC.  I find it interesting that this guy and Monica Mertens -KHK- seem to have extreme religious connections prior to working for this program. Kevin Beatty once told me at a protest that he was a "good Christian" as if that would make my boo boo feel all better. So it looks like fundamentalists/extremist religious folks might be drawn to the sick program modality and ok with it. This is just a loose hypothesis but it is looking like a trend.

I have heard recent reports that the schooling completely sucks and is sub-par at PFC. From the grammar I am seeing from recent graduates, I would assume this is true.

More pFC peeps:

Ms. Hilger - therapist - PFC
Nurse Bateman - PFC
Mr. Beasley - teacher - PFC

There was a woman named Cindy who was in charge of the correspondence education, I think her title was educational director or something.  I think she really had the kids best interest at heart, but who knows.  Staff hated her and were constantly trying to get her fired.  I'm pretty sure they finally did a few years ago, and the last I heard the peer staff are in charge of correspondence education.  Its a scary thought that a bunch of peer staff who may or may not have graduated from high school and have no training or teaching certification are in charge of several children's education.  Plus a lot of the clients need remedial education if they were struggling in school before entering the program.  Teaching yourself out of a book is no substitute for a quality teacher, especially if regular school is already a challenge.  I really feel like my education suffered while I was a client.  I have gone on to higher education, and I found that I was lacking in many foundational skills that my peers learned in high school because getting sober was a higher priority than a solid educational foundation.  Even when I was at Milford High, I was limited in my classes by not being able to talk to many of my classmates only because they were the opposite sex or considered unproductive or druggie by the program (and by program standards, everyone who wasn't in the program was unproductive).  The program always came before school, and often I wasn't able to complete assignments because of happenings at the host home.
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Offline Anonymous

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Re: Who are the doctors at PFC?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2008, 01:28:15 PM »
PFC does not name the doctors, psychiatrists or psychologists on their website.

1. Please post the names of these people.

2. Please put them on watch to make sure they aren't involving minor children in medical research as Dr. Richard H. Schwartz of Advanced Pediatrics in Vienna, VA, did to minor children in Straight, Inc.

3. Please look into American Medical Association and the equivalents for the psych profession to discover prohibitions against such child abuse as is inherent in daily PFC program practice.
A. If there are prohibitions, inform appropriate certifying board of the names of these people and their involvement in a child abuse program.
B. If there are not applicable prohibitions, there should be. Any person who attended Straight Inc. who sees the Hagit Limor inside investigation, the motivating, the denial of sunlight and exercise, the denial of the right to go to school, the look on Penny Walker's face as she denies violence at PFC, the motivating, the rules, will see that PFC is practicing exactly what Straight, Inc. practiced. We have already learned the lesson of the damage of such a program and now it is time to insist that the certifying boards denounce, censure or prohibit professional participation in such programs




1. Thank you for posting names.
2. I see there are some vigilants.
3. Just some ideas: American Medical Association, American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association. Also educational boards, watchdogs for making sure kids have a right to education. Didn't one of these boards already say that the bootcamps are not appropriate?

Point of #3 is, I think it would be effective for PFC and other bootcamps and child abuse schools to get pressure from big tanks. I think these big tanks should get a synopsis of the inside practices, esp. that Hagit Limor video, and I think they should respond with "we don't care," "we do care," or, "we don't get it."
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Offline Anonymous

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Re: Who are the doctors at PFC?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2008, 02:38:43 PM »
guest, go here or take the name Julian Kutinsky, the Michigan PFC doc, and google for a pic. He's a DO, not an MD.

http://www.wellness.com/dir/2229223/int ... -clinic-do

If these folks are not actual members of the aforementioned associations, they won't get involved, at least in the case of the APA.
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