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Froderik:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Here's a personal request going out to Psy and Femanon: Please stop brownosing the child murderer or poseur child murderer. "I think you're a good person"? "I think you have good intentions?"
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Miss Antsy Pam:

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--- Quote from: "KathyS" ---There are groups for “open discussion” on the industry.
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What sites, pray tell, might these "open" places be where discussion of good and bad is permissible?  Perhaps they would allow me to voice my opinions, if it's so open.  As you have seen, I can be quite diplomatic.  Perhaps Pam, Buzzkill, or other parents or ex-staff members could be permitted to speak as well.
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Pam the parent here now....

I would love to be a part of any "open discussion" forum!  I was welcomed originally on the WWASP parents' BBS, but soon after, my posts were edited by staff....on more than 15 separate occasions. So sending anyone to a school site is just asking for us to be banned for sure!  If there are, in fact, open discussion forums, please send a link so we can have an open & honest discussion with ANYONE looking for snapshot of both sides of the coin.

Not ALL parents are stupid and we should have the opportunity to see both the bad and the good; only THEN can we be expected to make a decision with informed consent!

Froderik:
I'm tired of being tormented to hell, that's what I'm tired of.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "I Sell Kids to torture camps, but you can call me KathyS" ---A Gulag is a Russian forced labor camp.
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1.   A network of forced labor camps in the former Soviet Union.
2.   A forced labor camp or prison, especially for political dissidents.
3.   A place or situation of great suffering and hardship, likened to the atmosphere in a prison system or a forced labor camp.
Guantanamo has become the gulag of our time..."

Hey, look, moron.That's from dictionary dot com. Gulag applies to any detention center which hold captives extrajudicially. According to Amnesty International the term applies to Guantanamo Bay PARTICUALARLY regarding the minors detained.

Anyhoo, now we are clear on what “gulag” means and understand you choose to go with a personal definition in this matter. I understand you make money from buying and selling kid bodies, so it makes sense that "you and your group" choose euphemisms over representational English.

It’s interesting you mention that Gulag means “forces Labor Camp”
Here’s testimony from a Family Foundation School (cultic-gulag) survivors:
Amy Johnson
My name is Amy Johnson and I attended The Family Foundation School in Hancock, NY from August 2000 through June 2002. Over my 22 months at FFS I witnessed, partook in and was encouraged to emotionally, verbally, mentally and in some cases physically abuse my peers. While a new chapel was being built our dorms were a filthy, disgusting, bug infested, rotting, molding mess that parents were prohibited from seeing. At the school the students do all the manual labor such as cutting the acres of grass, shoveling upstate NY snow each fall and winter, preparing and serving the meals, cleaning the school and house.

Leah Bonner
I wasn't aloud to eat normal food, and I had to work without school. I was feed flavorless Cream of Wheat, english muffins with dry canned tuna, and a small cup of water. I was starving, and then I was accused of being bulemic, even though I was never alone, not even for a second to go to the bathroom. I was repeatedly told I was going to end up "dead, institutionalized, or in jail" if I left the school. I took care of a pig that I watched get shipped off to slaughter. I washed it, feed it, and gave it clean hay and water three times a day. I was forced to trot, I couldn't walk. No shoes. I was made to wear the most humiliating outfit they could find, and working included shoveling and carrying rocks in the middle of July and was told that it was God's work... as my belly grumbled I had to prepare other people's food.
http://cafety.youthrights.org/wiki/inde ... eah_Bonner
http://cafety.youthrights.org/wiki/inde ... my_Johnson

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Guest, there is no need to be rude to me.  Ask around to people who are not in the industry and non survivors what a Gulag is and they will not tell you about boarding schools.  Preparing meals, mowing the lawn and shovelling snow does not define a gulag, I am sorry to tell you, most American homes including mine require the children to work around the home.  Our farming community would be insulted to hear you describe their kids lives of feeding and tending farm animals as a gulag life.
Someone spoon fed you this, misled you and you blindly bought into the hype so you can feel part of the group here.  Before you jump in and call me wrong again do some reading on Gulags in the Soviet Union and then make the distinction yourself.  Note the walls and barbed wire, continuous forced labor, extremely high death rate.  Then come back and look at the boarding schools here in the US.
If you really still think I am wrong then ask yourself why none of the testimony before congressional committee included the words Gulag, prison camp, kidnapping etc.  You are using a non traditional lingo which is acceptable here on fornits and between survivors.  It is not used in main stream society, I assure you.
Again I am not criticizing you and I am use to the lingo myself.  But people outside your close circle will not understand you or believe you if you use these terms.

Anonymous:
The thing is, "Kathy", these activities are not universally applied. They are specifically applied to "dissident" kids with differing pov's who they want to BREAK. There are also kids they want to SHUT UP, cause a staff member beat them too hard or abused them sexually and they want the kid to be not believed. So the general mood du jour while this shit is going on is one of group condemnation and shame and guilt and emotional and physical torment to further the program's ends. This is NOT emotional growth.

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