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Sarah Palin's Dominionist Ties
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---Will the Media Report Obama's Terrorist Connection?
By John Stephenson (Bio | Archive)
February 23, 2008 - 15:01 ET
yada yada yada... :blabla: yada yada yada...
—John Stephenson is editor of Stop The ACLU.
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Hey PAL, this may not be the BEST SITE to try to whip up some support for having our civil liberties taken from us!
;D
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Big Dumpster" ---
--- Quote ---Will the Media Report Obama's Terrorist Connection?
By John Stephenson (Bio | Archive)
February 23, 2008 - 15:01 ET
yada yada yada... :blabla: yada yada yada...
—John Stephenson is editor of Stop The ACLU.
--- End quote ---
Hey PAL, this may not be the BEST SITE to try to whip up some support for having our civil liberties taken from us!
;D
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Daily KOS = ::fullofshit::
BuzzKill:
Adding to the balance:
While its true that some conservative talking heads have made issue of Obama's troubling friends and associates, the media at large refuses to go there.
For example, while it is hard not to be at least dimly aware of who Jeremiah Wright is, most people you ask can't tell you who William Ayres is. Who is he? (as explained above) He is a member of the Weathermen, a terrorist organization from the 60's and 70's. They bombed federal buildings and robbed armored cars - things like that. Said things like this:
"Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon, the sky was blue, the birds were singing, and the bastards were finely going to get what was coming to them. I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."
Ayers to the New York Times, September 11, 2001.
Another Ayers quote: "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents, that's where it's really at." I am not sure of the original source, but all you need do is Google Ayers+Kill your parents, and dozens of hits will pop up.
Lets not leave out William's wife, co-conspirator and bomber of federal buildings, Bernadine Dohrn. From "Helter Skelter", page 297: Just before she went underground Bernadine Dohrn told the Students for a Democratic Society convention: "Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson!"
Barack Hussain Obama's political career was launched from the Ayer's living room. Personally, I agree with McCain spokesman Brian Rogers when he said: "The fact that Barack Obama chose to launch his political career at the home of an unrepentant terrorist raises more questions about Senator Obama's judgment than any TV ad ever could,"
Considering Obama's very troubling association with the likes of Wright, Ayers, Dohrn and Rezco, I am personally amazed that Obama was ever seen as a viable candidate for the presidency. I am amazed that Jeremiah Wright's vicious racism, anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism didn't bring the candidacy of his devoted friend, admirer and protégé to a screeching halt. This is a free ride the likes of which I don't think this nation has ever seen before.
It is a little bit frightening to me, that so many are willing to over look so much; so much of what seems to me to be very serious issues with his judgment, character and personal belief system; For in my mind, there is no way at all that Barrack Hussain Obama isn't infected with the same disturbing and dangerous beliefs and ideas as his "spiritual mentor" of some 20 years, and the unrepentant terrorist in whose living room his carrier was launched. And what kind of "back door" favors might he owe his Syrian friend Rezco, for that fine house of his? This "problem" of extreme and viciously radical friends, spiritual mentors, and political associates is something, that in my opinion, is seriously significant and deserving of much scrutiny.
The fact that the larger media ignores or minimizes all this, all far more serious than any concern against any politician I have ever known, and that he retains a growing legion of faithful despite all this, is amazing to me.
As to some of our in-common hopes for the future - I would hope that Mrs. McCain's past experience with substance abuse may help her husband see how valid the argument for decriminalsation is. I would also hope his POW experience might help him understand better than others, how the troubled teen industry uses similar methods to break the kids - and how horrible this is. He may well understand better than most what coercive persuasion is, and why it is so evil for greedy profiteers to be using it on American teens and their families.
psy:
Well, Buzkill. I imagine if you ever ran for office they'd bring up this website and try to paint you as some sort of druggie internet terrorist. Who knows... Obama might not have even known who Ayers was.
As far as your hope for McCain. Palin broke any chance of me voting for McCain. While McCain/his wife might have more moderate views on things like decriminalization/coercive persuasion, I know that Palin won't due to her religious affiliation, and that particular church's proximity to Teen Challenge.
BuzzKill:
--- Quote from: "psy" ---Well, Buzkill. I imagine if you ever ran for office they'd bring up this website and try to paint you as some sort of druggie internet terrorist. Who knows... Obama might not have even known who Ayers was.
As far as your hope for McCain. Palin broke any chance of me voting for McCain. While McCain/his wife might have more moderate views on things like decriminalization/coercive persuasion, I know that Palin won't due to her religious affiliation, and that particular church's proximity to Teen Challenge.
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Hi Psy - and congrats to you on your recent win :)
Well now, should I run for office they could truthfully paint me as a one time drug user - just like Obama and Mrs. McCain I suppose - or at least very similar. I was never what you would call "dependant" in the way apparently Cindy once was. I'd be fine with that. I am after all a child of the 70's and we most all grew up in a more or less constant haze of burning hemp. I am confident I have a lot of good company who wouldn't hold it against me. In fact, it is probably a plus to have had at least some experience with the drug culture.
I would only be to pleased to have my association with you and Ginger and Shelby and Bill, and the Trekkers, and Maia and even Niles and Frodrick and so many others. It would give me an opportunity to explain how and why I know all you guys and what we have in common, despite our many and extreme differences. In fact - this alone might make a run for office worth while :)
Obama likewise has explained what he has in common with Ayers and Wright and several others. He dismisses my concerns as overblown and irrelevant. Ayers after all, Obama tells us, was doing his dirty deeds when Obama himself was no more than 8 years old. But I would point out that first quote up there, and the date: 9/11/2001. The man is the same now as he was then, with the same terrorist ideology - and Obama is OK with that.
Frankly, as disturbing as the Obama, Ayers connection is to me, I am more alarmed with his 20 year association with and devotion to that rabidly racist and insanely paranoid Reverend Wright. The man's theology demands you and I be destroyed. You've seen the interview where Wright went on and on and on about how his theology could not be understood apart from Cone's book: Black Power and Black Theology? This is the theology Obama sat and absorbed for 20 years - the theology he exposed his young daughters to. The pastor preaching it he calls his spiritual mentor. Do a bit of reading on what this theology is. You may want to start here:
http://http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.phpfa=PAGE.view&pageId=59230
and maybe you'll want to consider this: http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE
I am not what you would call delighted with the republican ticket. Truth is, they had a much better chance of getting me this year than in any past election of my life. But not with this candidate. Not only is he on the opposing side of a few key issues for me - but I think the man actually Hates me and my country, as well as Israel. I think it wise to consider who his friends are - what his actions have been - and paying little if any attention to his silky soothing words.
As for your concerns about Palin - I think your wrong. I think she would be horrified by the realities of the teen help industry - and even the excesses that take place in Teen Challenge. Having attended an AOG church in no way makes me think this unlikely, as I have attended at least three churches over the years that either were AOG, or related to them. I am well aware of their troubling excesses as well as their strengths. I see no hint of the troubling excess in Palin's words, actions or deeds.
I can't say the same for Obama. A great deal of what he has done over the years, and what he himself has said in unguarded moments, makes me think he is thoroughly tainted with the troubling excesses of his own little cult like congregation. Despite his great efforts to conceal his true sentiments they do occasionally leak out.
Consider the man was comfortable referring to white men as crackers : "Dreams of My Father." "there were no cigar chomping crackers like Beau Connor (ph) out there." (Pg 229)
As I once asked a friend - can you imagine the outrage if a WASP running for office were to write in a book in which they said that there were crack head (Nword)s in the room?
His white gran ma is Typical. A typical white person. I'd love to be able to ask Obama is he typical? Is his wife Typical? Are his daughters also Typical? Maybe then people would better realize what such a statement indicates about Obama's attitude.
And being someone concerned for the safety of Israel, his Islamic connections worry me greatly. Again, here we have him showing his true sentiments despite great effort to keep them hidden.
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
For the past eleven years the organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), representing the 57 Islamic States, has been tightening its ... http://www.iheu.org/node/3123
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw&feature=related
And then you have the name change thing. He was not born Barack Hussain Obama. He had his name changed and chose to identity in this most personal of ways with his Islamic roots. This is the name he chose for himself. We should pay attention to it.
Speaking of which, the Islamic world considers him Islamic no matter what else he may insist he is.
http://http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/obama_seen_as_a_muslim_oversea.html
It matters because the more radical elements of Islam want to see Israel wiped off the map. Barrack Hussain Obama has associated himself with this more radical element through his church - and his pastor - who revere, admire and support the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan, and the anti-Semitic and anti-(white)American rhetoric of both.
I am truly astonished that the democrats would nominate this man; and that so many so happily support him.
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