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HOW MANY TIMES DO I AND OTHERS HAVE TO TELL YOU SICK FUCKS THAT WE ARE NOT FROM AARC AND NEVER WENT THROUGH THERE BUT HAVE MET LOTS WHO HAVE AND WHO ARE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL TO AN EXCEPTIONALLY RUN CENTRE AND AN EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD MAN - DEAN VAUSE.
SO MOFOs, QUIT LOOKING TO BLAME ARRC PEOPLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT IRRITATES YOU IN YOUR SNIVELLING, PATHETIC LITTLE LIVES.
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I think what scares me about this is that you actually believe people who have been brainwashed, over the thousands of people who have been abused by Vause and the programs that he was involved in. Its been proven *in court* that these people are abusive, yet you think that a a few families who are still involved in the cult (that has been listed in the FBI's cult watch list, are Synanon derivatives, specifically STRAIGHT and KIDS, and we all know AARC, while in Canada is just KIDS in Canada). If it was Scientologists or Moonies, you would probably be like "yeah right", but because its a so-called "drug rehab" that supposedly "saved lives", you're willing to listen.
I don;t get involved in these conversations much, but I think having not been involved directly in these programs, you're way out of line in even pointing fingers, or invalidating the experience of so many people. One of the reasons most of us suppose that people coming here defending the Semblers, Newtons, and Vauses of the world are from those programs is because only people brainwashed could defend those actions in any way, shape, or form.
Now I know you probably mean well in defending these people, but it makes you look as bad as the people involved. Before you start defending, I would ask them if you can watch group for a day (I bet they say no), and go and stay with some kids at a host home (guaranteed they say no). If they don't say no, and they actually allow you to do it, even if they order them to not physically abuse the kids, the evidence is incontrovertible - see if any of the kids actually talk directly to each other without asking thier "oldcomer" for permission, see if they are allowed to read things, look out windows, don't look totally exhausted because of the way things are run.... see if they're allowed to go to the bathroom without some type of supervision.
Now things may not be run at Vause's facility the way they were run at KIDS, but I doubt it - and look and listen with your own ears. If they don't allow you in - maybe they're hiding something?
I'm just asking you to understand that a lot of us on these boards are angery at what was done to us. Its hard to let go of that anger. I hope that a rational voice on our side of the fence will convince you that you *might* be on the wrong side, but I sincerely doubt it. It sounds like you made up your mind to listen to the Semblers, Vauses, and Newtons say about us - that we're druggie, bahaviour problem, sexually addicted scum, and lie and cheat and steal, and are manipulative.
I'll tell you - I am an Emmy winning technical person, who has won custody of my child (in a very conservative area), I've been written up in magazines for my contributions to the computing world, I am active in several community organizations, and well respected where I live, and the profession I work in. I am the farthest thing from a manipulative druggie - believe me when I say I was abused in every manner I could possible dream of, including sexual assault in KIDS. - and I *do* get angry when someone like you, that has no clue about what I have gone through invalidates my experiences and the experiences of people like me - but I believe that an intelligent discourse is needed instead of calling names.
Are you ready to have an intelligent discourse? or do you want to continue defending people who are clearly abusers and thieves of lives.
-SPL