Tami Brown

[TheWho]

Say whatever you want.  You know damn well what was meant by that post and you chose to be an asshole about it.  Like I said...this is exactly why no one respects a thing you say.  Thanks for making it so blatantly obvious to even the newest of readers.  Seriously.  That was such a dickhead move that you've made it completely apparent that you're not here to do anything but stir the pot and attempt to steer derail the thread.

I think what is clear is that you are narrow minded and all you can see is one side of any issue.  You live by a double standard.  It is okay to out someone or try to force them to leave whose views are not totally anti program.  But it is a whole different story when it happens to a person with an anti-program point of view.
We both know this is what you are saying, but it is too hard for you to swallow that you would have to admit to the double standard.  We both know I am not the one being an asshole.  I didn’t “out” anyone or try to force them to leave…. I was on the receiving end if you remember.



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[psy]

Whooter.  Information revealed by patients at aarc is supposedly protected by patient confidentiality (in the states, a program violating this would be subject to serious penalties).  While any information available to admins, such as Ip addresses here, is also confidential, that does not prevent anybody, including admins, from using other, non-confidential or publicly available information to guess at your identity, or even attempt to out you.

In this case, it is clear that there are people using AARC insider (privileged) information to threaten, intimidate, and out people.  Big difference.  No privileged/confidential information was ever used to guess at your identity (it was actually your own words... who you claimed to be).

[Anonymous]

Say whatever you want.  You know damn well what was meant by that post and you chose to be an asshole about it.  Like I said...this is exactly why no one respects a thing you say.  Thanks for making it so blatantly obvious to even the newest of readers.  Seriously.  That was such a dickhead move that you've made it completely apparent that you're not here to do anything but stir the pot and attempt to steer derail the thread.

I think what is clear is that you are narrow minded and all you can see is one side of any issue.  You live by a double standard.  It is okay to out someone or try to force them to leave whose views are not totally anti program.  But it is a whole different story when it happens to a person with an anti-program point of view.
We both know this is what you are saying, but it is too hard for you to swallow that you would have to admit to the double standard.  We both know I am not the one being an asshole.  I didn’t “out” anyone or try to force them to leave…. I was on the receiving end if you remember.



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I have no doubt that's how you need to see it in order to justify these atrocities.  Really, I understand.  The guilt over your daughter must be overwhelming at times.

Sidestep it all you want.  I know what you're referring to and it doesn't even compare.  Either way the mudslinging goes......THE KIDS IN AARC CAN'T ESCAPE IT.  We all can.  Here.  As adults.  With free will and thought.  Adults with the right to due process before we're incarcerated on the word of scared parents and questionable diagnosis from people with questionable credentials trying to claim unbelievable "success" rates, using confrontational methods directly derived from an known abusive cult, using the exact same principles and practices from said predecessor which have proven to be not only un-successful, but downright dangerous.   Yes.  We, here, have those rights.   Kids in AARC do not.

Thank you again.  Honestly.  The more you write, the more you reveal the shill that you are.

[Anonymous]

Yeah.  They send a pretty clear message:  if you complain about us, we'll out you online, post confidential information, defame your charachter, and generally try to do whatever we can to shut you up.  What they don't seem to realize is that their behavior, from a reasonable person's standpoint, is absolutely disgusting.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I AND OTHERS HAVE TO TELL YOU SICK FUCKS THAT WE ARE NOT FROM AARC AND NEVER WENT THROUGH THERE BUT HAVE MET LOTS WHO HAVE AND WHO ARE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL TO AN EXCEPTIONALLY RUN CENTRE AND AN EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD MAN - DEAN VAUSE.

SO MOFOs, QUIT LOOKING TO BLAME ARRC PEOPLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT IRRITATES YOU IN YOUR SNIVELLING, PATHETIC LITTLE LIVES.
 :wall:

[TheWho]

I have no doubt that's how you need to see it in order to justify these atrocities.  Really, I understand.  The guilt over your daughter must be overwhelming at times.

Sidestep it all you want.  I know what you're referring to and it doesn't even compare.  Either way the mudslinging goes......THE KIDS IN AARC CAN'T ESCAPE IT.  We all can.  Here.  As adults.  With free will and thought.  Adults with the right to due process before we're incarcerated on the word of scared parents and questionable diagnosis from people with questionable credentials trying to claim unbelievable "success" rates, using confrontational methods directly derived from an known abusive cult, using the exact same principles and practices from said predecessor which have proven to be not only un-successful, but downright dangerous.   Yes.  We, here, have those rights.   Kids in AARC do not.

Thank you again.  Honestly.  The more you write, the more you reveal the shill that you are.

You keep missing it....  The ones that you claim are being attacked and outed are not in AARC!!  They are free to come and go and post just like you and I.  No difference at all.



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[TheWho]

Whooter.  Information revealed by patients at aarc is supposedly protected by patient confidentiality (in the states, a program violating this would be subject to serious penalties).  While any information available to admins, such as Ip addresses here, is also confidential, that does not prevent anybody, including admins, from using other, non-confidential or publicly available information to guess at your identity, or even attempt to out you.

In this case, it is clear that there are people using AARC insider (privileged) information to threaten, intimidate, and out people.  Big difference.  No privileged/confidential information was ever used to guess at your identity (it was actually your own words... who you claimed to be).

It is clear to you because that is the way you choose to see it.  I haven’t seen any evidence of violations of the HIPAA laws or privacy being broken by AARC.  We don’t know if privileged info was used.  The same way we don’t know if the admins used my IP when trying to out me.

You are taking experiences from other programs and other people and assuming that AARC incorporates/embraces these same practices.  We just don’t know that.  Most of the time people leave businesses to create models that are different than the one they left.  They want to make it better and more successful, use newer ideas and learn from past mistakes and known dead ends.  I would be more cautious if Vause “did not” have a background from Straight because he may be doomed to learn the same mistakes Newton made and follow some of the same dead ends.




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[Anonymous]

You keep missing it....  The ones that you claim are being attacked and outed are not in AARC!!  They are free to come and go and post just like you and I.  No difference at all.

Nice try, but no dice.

Thanks for playing though!

[TheWho]

You keep missing it....  The ones that you claim are being attacked and outed are not in AARC!!  They are free to come and go and post just like you and I.  No difference at all.

Nice try, but no dice.

Thanks for playing though!

You are welcome!  Glade you understand.  I think we were getting a little off topic.



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[Anonymous]

Yeah.  They send a pretty clear message:  if you complain about us, we'll out you online, post confidential information, defame your charachter, and generally try to do whatever we can to shut you up.  What they don't seem to realize is that their behavior, from a reasonable person's standpoint, is absolutely disgusting.

So psy, what is the confidential information - their names? LOL
they signed the McGill Daily pages and Elliot has penned other bits of BS and penned his name on NON-confidential rants to people.

Mommie Dearest can't shutup about details of her and her kid's lives, here and elsewhere. so where is confidentiality being broken. PLEASE do tell.  
roflmao

Elliot left because someone posted his name, which they got from the McGill Daily site where he had puked up the same stuff he had been writing here!!! Then T. Brown comes in to fill his place reiteratiing stuff from late 90s that elliot and sick wife have obviously passed on to her  PLUS all her whining about responsiblity of AARC parents while in treatment, which she found too time consuming for her bar schedule.

It is ok for those people to make slanderous statements about Vause and AARC but not ok for other peole to slam them back on their shite!!!!  double standard

Let's see if Psy will provide us with some confidentiality breaks . . . . . don't bet on it.

[Anonymous]

:wall:  :wall:

Thank god for your ego.  You just can't help yourself.  You really should stop now.  You're just making an ass out of yourself.


 :jerry:    

[Anonymous]

 

Thank god for your ego. You just can't help yourself. You really should stop now. You're just making an ass out of yourself.

Nothing like throwing in an arbitrary statement that means absolutely nothing !!

so, would you like to expand on it or just let it stand as is - completely irrelevant and another attempt to defer any answers to a legitimate question.

[Anonymous]

Nothing like throwing in an arbitrary statement that means absolutely nothing !!

Only to the slow and dimwitted.  Congratulations again!

so, would you like to expand on it or just let it stand as is - completely irrelevant and another attempt to defer any answers to a legitimate question.

So, you haven't even bothered to read the thread, then.  Huh?

[Anonymous]

Perfect example of how you twist everything and why no one respects a thing you say.

might want to speak for yourself, lol

[Anonymous]

Perfect example of how you twist everything and why no one respects a thing you say.

might want to speak for yourself, lol

Snappy comeback!!  I guess you told me!



 


Moron.

[Anonymous]

So, you haven't even bothered to read the thread, then. Huh?

uhm, no i would suggest you did  roflmao   ::deadhorse::

and ooo,ouch that 'slow and dim-witted' statement was soooo hurtful   :cry:

catch ya later, einstein