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« Reply #75 on: August 07, 2008, 04:59:04 PM »
Why is it so important that this man get his PhD?  or get one at a specific University chosen by others?  He opened a successful school and he could have just decided to play golf and kick back a little but instead decided to further his education.  He could have chosen anthropology or physics.. who cares?  Thousands of people have gone thru other Universities besides the one in Calgary and are doing fine.
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« Reply #76 on: August 07, 2008, 05:54:08 PM »
The facility was so unsuccessful that in '94 they had to go begging for a bail-out from the provincial govenrment.
Apparently the issue is not whether or not the Wizard is qualified to render treatment to chemically dependent adolescents, but rather how one's quality of life is affected by wyether or not one attends the University of Calgary.  What a help person the Who is!
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #77 on: August 07, 2008, 06:01:15 PM »
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The facility was so unsuccessful that in '94 they had to go begging for a bail-out from the provincial govenrment.
Apparently the issue is not whether or not the Wizard is qualified to render treatment to chemically dependent adolescents, but rather how one's quality of life is affected by wyether or not one attends the University of Calgary.  What a help person the Who is!

If Vause and his staff were as incompetent as you say, AARC would have been closed down years ago . . .hmmmm.... but it is expanding because of a constant waiting list . . . . odd isn't it!!!  how could all those people be so wrong when Vinny is so right!!  
roflmao some more
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« Reply #78 on: August 07, 2008, 06:08:12 PM »
If it has a constant waiting list, how come it only graduated 100 kids in five and one half years?  And as I firmly believe that AARC stands for All About Receiving Cash, it is no doubt highly successful in that endeavor.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #79 on: August 07, 2008, 06:18:36 PM »
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The facility was so unsuccessful that in '94 they had to go begging for a bail-out from the provincial govenrment.
Apparently the issue is not whether or not the Wizard is qualified to render treatment to chemically dependent adolescents, but rather how one's quality of life is affected by wyether or not one attends the University of Calgary.  What a help person the Who is!

But where is it stated that this man needs a PhD to begin with?  If the school is doing well with him having a Masters Degree then why the issue here?  I dont see how this PhD comes into play.



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« Reply #80 on: August 07, 2008, 06:29:54 PM »
Why did you start to refer to All About Receiving Cash as a school?  It does not bill itself as such.  I've never stated that the man required anything to run a church that provides faith healing to those suffering from marijuana addiction. However, if one claims to  be providing medical treatment, then there are all manners of conditions that must be met.  You can decide for yourself if AARC is claiming to provide medical treatment.

"The Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre (AARC) is a long-term treatment program for chemically dependent adolescents and their families.
 
The AARC program is based on the fundamental that chemical dependency is a disease. Adolescent substance abuse is defined as a psycho-social, genetic, chronic, progressive and relapsing disease affecting every dimension of the adolescent and their family members’ lives"
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #81 on: August 07, 2008, 06:38:17 PM »
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Why did you start to refer to All About Receiving Cash as a school?  It does not bill itself as such.  I've never stated that the man required anything to run a church that provides faith healing to those suffering from marijuana addiction. However, if one claims to  be providing medical treatment, then there are all manners of conditions that must be met.  You can decide for yourself if AARC is claiming to provide medical treatment.

"The Alberta Adolescent Recovery Centre (AARC) is a long-term treatment program for chemically dependent adolescents and their families.
 
The AARC program is based on the fundamental that chemical dependency is a disease. Adolescent substance abuse is defined as a psycho-social, genetic, chronic, progressive and relapsing disease affecting every dimension of the adolescent and their family members’ lives"

Great, but the guy running it can be a business man with no degrees at all.  He has a model that works 85% of the time, who cares what degrees he has.  Someone could come along like Bain Capital and buy him out... Mitt Romney doesn’t have a degree from Alberta University, yet he owns plenty of programs.


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« Reply #82 on: August 07, 2008, 06:40:50 PM »
You're ignoring the fact that the Wiz is one of the principal practioners at AARC, and is providing what he calls treatment himself.  Perhaps if you knew a little about the specific subject we're discussing, you might be able to contribute something, Who.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #83 on: August 07, 2008, 06:47:49 PM »
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You're ignoring the fact that the Wiz is one of the principal practioners at AARC, and is providing what he calls treatment himself.  Perhaps if you knew a little about the specific subject we're discussing, you might be able to contribute something, Who.

My wife’s salon provides treatment when she gets her nails done but they don’t need PhD’s to my knowledge.  Vauses program is providing treatment, therefore Vause is providing treatment.  If I owned a restaurant then I could say I was feeding people, but it doesn’t mean I am the chef.



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« Reply #84 on: August 07, 2008, 06:49:20 PM »
again "pot. . uhm . .  meet kettle"!   he he he he
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« Reply #85 on: August 07, 2008, 07:07:09 PM »
Again, if you actually knew something about this particular subject, you would know that the Wiz has personally treated clients since AARC opened.  If he doesn't need any qualifications to do that, then there is nothing to discuss.  I have a sneaking suspicion however, that he does.  That was certainly determined to be the case with Miller Newton.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #86 on: August 07, 2008, 07:11:22 PM »
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Again, if you actually knew something about this particular subject, you would know that the Wiz has personally treated clients since AARC opened.  If he doesn't need any qualifications to do that, then there is nothing to discuss.  I have a sneaking suspicion however, that he does.  That was certainly determined to be the case with Miller Newton.

If he is treating them professionally in the manner of a medical doctor then he needs a medical degree and a license, I agree.


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« Reply #87 on: August 07, 2008, 07:16:37 PM »
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You still have no idea what my education is, and your post does not address in any way the vast diferrence between the entrance requirements and program elements of a University of Calgary Clinical Psychology PhD, and one from the Union Institute. 

for once you are correct - no one would know 'what your education is' because vinny, you refuse to answer any direct questions on that. As another person posted above- it is obvious how uneducated you are.

As far as stating you opinion on things . .what is the point of going there with ya buddy. you JUST do NOT get it!! - you have not experience, background, education to state any sort of credible opinion on AARC, Union Institute, Michael Patton, the Eveluation or Vause (not even whether the guy played in some hockey league over 30 years ago , lolol - that one keeps cracking me up)
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« Reply #88 on: August 07, 2008, 07:21:28 PM »
Since you don't know what my education, background nor experience is, I don't see the basis for your claim that my opinion is credible or not.
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MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #89 on: August 07, 2008, 07:24:57 PM »
honey, you prove it with your ridiculous allegations, your declarations of fact (and Fiction), your limited capacity to read and understand research conducted on the evaluation of AARC and your hilarious diatribes on what university education should be.  . .to start
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