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addicted to drugs and alcoholl
« on: July 06, 2008, 01:36:44 PM »
hi!@ i was wondering if anyone had any advice to help me stop getting trashed all the time. its been my goal for a while to be sober and i can usually manage a couple hours in the morning or even noon, and think !today! might be the day. but then! i go out and get drunk or get high and do that all night and then start over the next day hoping i can change. this has gone on for years and i !haveNOT! been sober more than a few hours in that long and i was hoping someone might have some advice.
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Re: addicted to drugs and alcoholl
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2008, 02:16:00 PM »
If you are really really serious about stopping drinking, there is med's you can take that will help, I know someone who took some antibuse or something like that.  If you take the medication it will make you throw up if you drink.  It worked for my friend and he stopped drinking, and stayed away from old friends who he partyed with,  and changed what he did, he found out the friends were not so good of friends when he wasn't drinking with them.
I know another thing that helps is to take walks and look at nature, you forget when you are all ways in side, some of the cool stuff that is outdoors.
I  don't know much about this subject but I thought I  would try and help.
Think of all the money you spend and think of that Harley you would like to own ,or something you wished your whole life you could do, make a goal.
I wish you all the luck in the world.
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Re: addicted to drugs and alcoholl
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2008, 02:19:12 PM »
You have to give yourself some peace an luxery. Pull the plug on everything and start listen to yourself. You know that you contain inside. If you are unable to create such peace at your home, go to the wilderness. (No survival trip please. I dont believe that you actually have to learn something outthere. I believe that the wilderness is very suitable as a shield against life as it is in 2008.)

While you are out there, bring paper and pencil. Start using the pie-method to regain soberness.

The method, which is used in nothern Europe is quite simple:

Your life is a pie. Various pieces of this pie is work, family, friends, sport, personal interests and of course alcohol.

Alcohol is major piece in your life right now. How big you only know. Draw the pie.

Draw a second pie next to the first one. Fill out the piece with alcohol with activities you will like to use that time for.

Return to society when you have won the control over your body, which should take 8-10 days. Use the knowledge you got from the pies. Substitute alcohol with whatever you have chosen as replacement.

General speaking: While I understand that some cannot control their alcohol intake and need to stop drinking it at all, we have taken a different approach in Denmark. I don't know whether the research has reached the US yet, but we have started to educate in drinking moderate: (Learn to drink moderate), by Thomas Prakash, The newspaper Urban, february 28 2008 (article in Danish)

I can only speak of my culture but we are at war overhere. The people who do not drink are potential suicide bombers and they are isolated mentally in our workspace due to security reasons. With homeland security in your country that problem is not something you should concern yourself about.

Other research show that some people can get addicted of beer but the same people are not addicted to wine.

You can be an alcoholic with beer - but maybe not with wine, Avisen.dk (newspaper), June 11 2008 (article in Danish).

I know that you have the ability in you to regain control in your life, but you have to allow yourself the time to regain that control. As the fat baldguy sings: "You can only change what you acknowledge as a problem".

Good luck. I cross my fingers.
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Re: addicted to drugs and alcoholl
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2008, 01:52:27 AM »
Quote from: "lotus"
hi!@ i was wondering if anyone had any advice to help me stop getting trashed all the time. its been my goal for a while to be sober and i can usually manage a couple hours in the morning or even noon, and think !today! might be the day. but then! i go out and get drunk or get high and do that all night and then start over the next day hoping i can change. this has gone on for years and i !haveNOT! been sober more than a few hours in that long and i was hoping someone might have some advice.

If the AA thing doesn't jibe with you (I also wouldn't recommend it for it's dismal sucess rate), check out this page, under "an alternate view of recovery":
http://orange-papers.org/orange-top10.html

He recommends Rational Recovery, but there are others groups and self-help programs as well.

There has also reportedly been some good sucess with ibogaine, though it's legality in the US is in question (probably because it works, and would put the competition out of business).  Go to Canada for ibogaine treatment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibogaine
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Re: addicted to drugs and alcoholl
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2008, 01:54:16 AM »
Or just bake a pie with some antabase in it. that should sort you out.
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Re: addicted to drugs and alcoholl
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2008, 03:24:05 AM »
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Or just bake a pie with some antabase in it. that should sort you out.
I couldn't stop noticing that you were trying to make fun out of some serious stuff.

The pie-method is very useful for all people - addiction or not. Some people are not working to their full potential because they have too many displacement activities, the pie-method will reveal that. But you have to be honest when you draw the pie.

Do you have the courage to draw the pie for your life?

My understanding of the original post is that this person truly wants to make a change in his or her life. While there could be a need for a therapist no in-patient treatment is needed. I would support Rotsne and claim that there could be need for an outside-the-stressful-world treatment.

I have just been visited by a man, who quit 20 years of use of a special toccaco some imported to him from the Neatherland. It made him hear some voices and frankly I have to say that his life was very much the same during these year living in a one-room apartment, having only short relationships and having several jobs for short time when not on sick-leave.

He quit it as well as coffee for reasons not known for me. He has been clean for more than a year. With some success he substituted the toccaco use with long rides on his bike and visiting family and friends (Something he rarely did more than 2 times per year. Most of the time he just lived in his apartment partly angry of the world for not coming to him).

When he made the decision it was quiet easy for him because he already was isolated in his apartment. Some who can maintain an addiction and be around people would see the detox process to be a little more difficult. They have to leave their home and put some distance to their normal life.

We have parts of Denmark, we call "the rotten banana". It is parts of Denmark where there is no development and they are converting asphalt road to dirt roads because none use them. Here people can rent a room for several days for under 100 dollars. Do you have have such places in the states where you can get a motel room for a few bucks? Then go there and rent a room while you detox.

Instead of making fun, you should praise him. He has the courage to decide that it is time for a change in his life. What about you?
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Re: addicted to drugs and alcoholl
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2008, 09:46:27 AM »
If in fact you do decide to quit, make sure you have a licensed doctor on stand by. When I read the original post, you said this has been going on for some time and may have crossed over to being physically dependent as well as mentally dependent.

I too am no supporter of any of the "ANONYMOUS" meetings as these would only end up adding more confusion to your life. This is my experience anyway. Their literature is designed to break you down and make you believe that without the "FELLOWSHIP" you are going to die, which for some this does happen but not for all.

If you are in the middle of confusion which it sounds like you are, consult the people you trust. Your family, your spiritual advisor, but not people that you do not know..... "Casting pearls before swine" when you go that avenue.

Good luck
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