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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #165 on: February 28, 2008, 04:32:51 PM »
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Again, notice the blanks...I could have added last name, address, phone number, arrest record... I left all that blank, too.  But someone wants to whitewash it.  How KoolAid.

Once again:  who asked for it, I gave it.  Weasel!

Thanks for verifying I was right...I was only bluffing again

Arrest record? Did you pay to get a background check on CCM? Now THAT is the most creepy thing so far in this thread yet.

Ya don't read before you post?

"I was only bluffing again".
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #166 on: February 28, 2008, 04:34:47 PM »
It's really time for this thread to fuckin' die, wouldn't you all say?

Bury this rotting carcass of a thread, it's starting to stink. :D :D
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #167 on: February 28, 2008, 04:37:52 PM »
Oh man, I still get a huge belly laugh out of Zen's brilliant posts on Whitmore and the infamous Izzy and Sceff saga.  This is a guy who uses FACTS and wit to make a point (or argue his case) thereby helping to change minds and opinions on issues that are critical to educating parents and others.  Other regs like Frod who is known for his impatience with flamers and suffers NO FOOLS glady, Ursus, calm and rational, Anne, funny, tenacious and hard-hitting, Psy, sharp as a tack, supremely internet savvy, loyal friend,  and many other posters I enjoy reading but don't have time to list, are all valuable members of the community of Fornits.

The errant bullies and posers can't compete on any level but alas, they certainly try, pitiful as it is.

Carry On and don't take any shit from the above.  Feeding their super-size, gluttonous egos and pathological need for attention really is a waste of time.  

Fornits is not sinking.  Quite the opposite.
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #168 on: February 28, 2008, 04:40:57 PM »
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Quote from: "XFSGU"
you're clearly deciding and trying to convince others psy is "bad" for fornits. i can't see how you expressing your violent fantasies is "good" for fornits, fwiw.

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I am not an activist or part of any "click" or subgroup on fornits, I express my opinion freely in what I thought was a forum allowing freedom of speech.

um. maybe those who would promote violent acts that could land a kid in jail the rest of his life, should put that disclaimer in your signature line. good to clarify that you don't speak for fornits, as it were.

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Free speech means people can post their opinions, even if it offends others, as my comments have obviously offended you and Psy.

your chicken shit comments don't offend me. i just think they are a waste of space and not in kids best interest, unless spending a lengthy time in jail would be better than completing their private incarceration.

you and che tag teaming to get rid of psy? that's what it looks like from here.



Don't worry about those two.  Ginger knows wtf is going on and it really isn't an issue.  Trolls will be trolls.  I don't really care.  If people want to believe the bullshit... well.. it's their problem, but the full transcript of the incident in questiion is here.  Aaron... Aaron has gone off the deep end for the last time in my mind.

For those new to fornits: pretty much the only place that is moderated is the shoutbox (to keep TheWho / trolls from derailing the thing, since there is only one shoutbox).  At the same time, that moderation presents complicated legal issues...  To get to the point:  please do not post death threats or promotions of violence on the shoutbox.  Do that somewhere that isn't moderated by policy so it's your neck, not ours on the line (or better yet... don't do it at all).


I am glad Psy posted the link to the transcript, as I did earlier in this thread. Let people read for themselves what occurred, and decide if it was appropriate for Psy to threaten the authorities on me. Psy labels me a troll, because in his mind that gives him the right to threaten police action against me.

Psy threatens Sue Scheff and it's fine. I make a statement that kids should try to escape - not ever mentioning death or killing as Psy did - and suddenly I am a liability to this forum.

Don't let Psy fool you, his threats are not just limited to the shoutbox incident, this threat was made in the Open Free for All forum:

Quote from: "psy"
I still have quite a few aces up my sleeve, Milk, and i am in a position to decimate you if I wanted to (and that includes having you arrested). 
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #169 on: February 28, 2008, 04:42:51 PM »
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I do not communicate with che and have disagreements with him too. However, he has never threatened to hand my IP over to the authorities and then laughed about it.

Proud of this?

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[Today at 03:13:33 PM] guest-6d53: i heard a stotry from a program staff once
[Today at 03:14:20 PM] guest-6d53: and i thought it was a lie
[Today at 03:14:37 PM] guest-6d53: becase staffs lie a lot
[Today at 03:15:07 PM] guest-6d53: i told him so and he was like ohhhh and i was like shut up staff and that was it
[Today at 03:15:19 PM] guest-6d53: stupid staff
[Today at 03:18:36 PM] guest-6d53: the kids should rise up and take the staff out

Or this:

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[Today at 03:36:56 PM] guest-6d53: why are you so paranoid?
[Today at 03:37:40 PM]  psy: not paranoid at all.  I just get a lot of crank phone calls, emails, and so on... there are also a lot of trolls on fornits and people who subtly push alternate agendas than what are outwardly explicitly stated.
[Today at 03:38:03 PM] guest-6d53: seriously man you need to work on that or get help
[Today at 03:38:15 PM]  psy: if you're really a survivor, and do believe that, I would advise against it.  Information is far more effective a weapon against cults than a gun
[Today at 03:38:17 PM] guest-6d53: if you were staff id take you out and steal your car
[Today at 03:38:25 PM]  psy: I'm not the one suggesting that we go out and kill people... who needs help..
[Today at 03:38:37 PM]  psy: right...
[Today at 03:38:59 PM] guest-6d53: who is talking about killing people
[Today at 03:39:00 PM] guest-ae77: LOL!
[Today at 03:39:41 PM]  psy: what?  you're saying you should rise up and take the staff out to ... dinner maybe?
[Today at 03:40:03 PM] guest-ae77: You both are confusing me now!
[Today at 03:40:24 PM] guest-6d53: they should rise up and take the staff out of their way and leave
[Today at 03:40:26 PM] guest-6d53: take the staff out of their position of power using whatever means they deem necessary
[Today at 03:40:44 PM]  psy: Look.  If you're publicly promiting comitting violent acts, i'll have to check what my legal responsibilities are.  I might have to report this to the appropriate authorities.
It was a warning you dumbfuck, and you didn't stop, so I banned you (but just from the shoutbox).  Name any other place on the internet you could post shit like that and not get banned (including 4chan)?  If a place is moderated, the moderators have certain legal responsibilies.  Sorry for offending you delicate sensibilities... pussy.

Now that i've cleared this up, if you post again, i'll just respond with a link to this post.
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #170 on: February 28, 2008, 04:45:14 PM »
Guest who keeps harping on Mike - enough already!  Smoke the peace pipe or go for a walk.  This will all sort it's self out in time.  It's just another day in cyberspace.  Chill thyself.
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #171 on: February 28, 2008, 04:46:01 PM »
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What people share in PM's and emails OFF the forums is a mystery to you, because you're a weasel.

And it should be a mystery to everyone except the person receiving it.  If someone shares information with you thru a PM or emails, Zen, then they do that for a reason.  It is not intended to be reposted on the open forum.  If people wanted the information to be posted openly they would do it themselves instead of delivering it to you via email and Private Messages.  It amazes me that you don’t understand this boundary or that it is so fuzzy for you.

Many of us understand that, Zen, but it seems to escape you for some reason.  It is wrong and if you have to ask why then the answer lies in your set of ethics that you have embraced (or not embrace).

I am sorry if it seems harsh but I don’t think you should be given the powers of a moderator in light of the side of you that  you shared with us today.  There should be a certain, implied, responsibility that goes along with the title.





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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #172 on: February 28, 2008, 04:51:20 PM »
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Quote from: "ZenAgent"
What people share in PM's and emails OFF the forums is a mystery to you, because you're a weasel.

Bla bla blabber bla bla.  Blabber blabber bla.  Blabber bla-di bla blabber bla blab!  Blab blab blab blab...



Please log in so I don't have to read your shit.  This is a kind request.
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #173 on: February 28, 2008, 04:52:22 PM »
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I do not communicate with che and have disagreements with him too. However, he has never threatened to hand my IP over to the authorities and then laughed about it.

Proud of this?

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[Today at 03:13:33 PM] guest-6d53: i heard a stotry from a program staff once
[Today at 03:14:20 PM] guest-6d53: and i thought it was a lie
[Today at 03:14:37 PM] guest-6d53: becase staffs lie a lot
[Today at 03:15:07 PM] guest-6d53: i told him so and he was like ohhhh and i was like shut up staff and that was it
[Today at 03:15:19 PM] guest-6d53: stupid staff
[Today at 03:18:36 PM] guest-6d53: the kids should rise up and take the staff out

Or this:

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[Today at 03:36:56 PM] guest-6d53: why are you so paranoid?
[Today at 03:37:40 PM]  psy: not paranoid at all.  I just get a lot of crank phone calls, emails, and so on... there are also a lot of trolls on fornits and people who subtly push alternate agendas than what are outwardly explicitly stated.
[Today at 03:38:03 PM] guest-6d53: seriously man you need to work on that or get help
[Today at 03:38:15 PM]  psy: if you're really a survivor, and do believe that, I would advise against it.  Information is far more effective a weapon against cults than a gun
[Today at 03:38:17 PM] guest-6d53: if you were staff id take you out and steal your car
[Today at 03:38:25 PM]  psy: I'm not the one suggesting that we go out and kill people... who needs help..
[Today at 03:38:37 PM]  psy: right...
[Today at 03:38:59 PM] guest-6d53: who is talking about killing people
[Today at 03:39:00 PM] guest-ae77: LOL!
[Today at 03:39:41 PM]  psy: what?  you're saying you should rise up and take the staff out to ... dinner maybe?
[Today at 03:40:03 PM] guest-ae77: You both are confusing me now!
[Today at 03:40:24 PM] guest-6d53: they should rise up and take the staff out of their way and leave
[Today at 03:40:26 PM] guest-6d53: take the staff out of their position of power using whatever means they deem necessary
[Today at 03:40:44 PM]  psy: Look.  If you're publicly promiting comitting violent acts, i'll have to check what my legal responsibilities are.  I might have to report this to the appropriate authorities.
It was a warning you dumbfuck, and you didn't stop, so I banned you (but just from the shoutbox).  Name any other place on the internet you could post shit like that and not get banned (including 4chan)?  If a place is moderated, the moderators have certain legal responsibilies.  Sorry for offending you delicate sensibilities... pussy.

Now that i've cleared this up, if you post again, i'll just respond with a link to this post.

Pussy? What are you 12 years old Psy? You are really showing your immaturity with your name-calling.

Nothing you just posted explains why you decided to threaten me by calling the cops and then laughing about it.

You responded with this:

Quote from: "psy"
psy: oh... I'm just saying that I might have to take that IP address, poster 6d53, and give it to the authorities... I doubt they'd interpret "rise up and take them out" as anything other than what you stated it to be.

psy: er...  I'll explain why I did it..
psy: mostly it was to make the person piss in his or her pants about what they were stupid enough to type without a proxy
psy: lol
psy: yeah... and they can't read this since I banned em from reading and posting... so he/she is probably biting nails, wondering if the cops are comign.. lol

psy: Oh.. i could have actually called the cops...  lol

Name one place you can post stuff like that? Fornits.com, the place where you tell Sue Scheff she should die a painful death, the one site related to this industry that allows freedom of speech. At least it used to, until you took over.

What was the point of your copy/paste, it does not take away from the fact you threatened two posters that day with police action, don't you remember? I can quote you again if you want.
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #174 on: February 28, 2008, 04:53:18 PM »
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Quote from: "ZenAgent"
What people share in PM's and emails OFF the forums is a mystery to you, because you're a weasel.

And it should be a mystery to everyone except the person receiving it.  If someone shares information with you thru a PM or emails, Zen, then they do that for a reason.  It is not intended to be reposted on the open forum.  If people wanted the information to be posted openly they would do it themselves instead of delivering it to you via email and Private Messages.  It amazes me that you don’t understand this boundary or that it is so fuzzy for you.

Many of us understand that, Zen, but it seems to escape you for some reason.  It is wrong and if you have to ask why then the answer lies in your set of ethics that you have embraced (or not embrace).

I am sorry if it seems harsh but I don’t think you should be given the powers of a moderator in light of the side of you that  you shared with us today.  There should be a certain, implied, responsibility that goes along with the title.







Please disregard my messages.  I suck cocks.



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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #175 on: February 28, 2008, 04:57:10 PM »
I gotta admit, some members make better posters than mods.  Mods do have a certain responsibility not to violate the trust of the admin. or community members.  Not sure what the answer is but don't think the problem is lack of ethics.  More like lack of self-control with idiots and top shelf fucktards who push their buttons.   8)
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #176 on: February 28, 2008, 05:02:08 PM »
Seems logic finally caught up to you, Zen.  You have been exposed as you should have been by "OH Weht".  You lack ethics, as he/she has mentioned.  No one should have to worry if their private information is going to be posted openly on the forum.  This should be a rule of some sort before anyone becomes a moderator.  and another thing, Why do you continue to be an ass to CCM?
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #177 on: February 28, 2008, 05:05:25 PM »
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
Ladies and gentlemen I'm sorry to say but I think I've lost all confidence and faith in the future of fornits. The ship is officially going down.
Good luck and godspeed.

do the ladies and gentlemen of fornits give a fuck what you think? i guess you think they do. you got some kind of inflated ego there buddy.
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Re: bury this rotting carcass, it's starting to stink.
« Reply #178 on: February 28, 2008, 05:08:33 PM »
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Quote from: "OH WEHT"
Quote from: "ZenAgent"



I would like to add - shut up, Miranda.  You're a troll, everyone knows it.  If you're going to act like an asshole, people have a right to address your bullshit.  But you hide.

Psy, can the ignore feature be set to block the IP of the person being ignored, so I don't have to read her shit when she "slips under the radar"?

Does CCM really stand for "Crack Craving Miranda"? 


We were all just told that Zens moderating privileges were limited to the YLF forum.  So how can he come over to the TTI forum and start outing people based on their IP addresses .  Zen, you just outed a survivor on an open forum because they disagree with you.  Why are you so pissed about people posting as a "guest" when you can read everyones IP#? 

Why is it not okay to post as a “guest”?  This is not something that is unique to internet forums or fornits.  Talk radio has had anonymous callers for decades.  People call in and say “This is Mike from Pittsburgh….”  They may or may not give their real name and the show host could check the id of the caller easily if they wanted and out them over the air, but they don’t, because first it isn’t right and secondly people would stop calling in.  Successful open forums (and talk radio) are built upon anonymity.

People say bad stuff about me all the time, but I don’t ask for or expect to get their IP addresses.  Of all the people having keys to fornits, you should be the last one because of your track record here and in other forums.

I think you know who this is just check my IP#.



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Yeah...she's a survivor, alright.  Against WWASP, but pro-program, just like Sue Scheff.  Makes anonymous, false allegations so she doesn't have to back them up, and allies herself closely with the who.  I got enough PM's with background on "CCM" to know she's as believable as thewho.

How did I "out" somebody?  If it's posted openly on the internet, it's fair game.  Dude.   By the way, I can't see anyone's IP.  There's a good reason for that, because I would abuse that privilege to "out" you.  Just being honest.

Once again, the ignore feature is useless as long as the ignored slip by as anons.  Block their IP's so they're truly ignored.  Thewho and CCM are so desperate to be noticed, they'll do anything to get attention.  That's truly pathetic, trollish activity.


I am so desperate to be noticed that in the last 6 months I have posted maybe a total of 10 times? I love the fact you have access to my PM's too, and are threatening to post them. The things is, I could give 2 shits less, so be my guest. I haven't used that feature in 4 months, and before that rarely. Just do me a favor, and don't alter all my PM's. Because we all now people were altering my posts. Doesn't give you a lot of credibility. BTW, you have some nerve comparing me to Sue Scheff. BTW, The Who, and I exchanged a few P.M.'s about all the crap I was receiving because I didn't agree with the majority here that all programs were bad. But that was over 4 months ago, and very briefly. It's not like we are buddy buddy! Come on re-read my PM's Zen. They are still sitting there, I don't bother to erase those things, because I have nothing to hide. But, keep in mind if you do decide to be a prick, and post them. It just reflects badly on fornits for allowing you to have access to such private information.

Also, it wasn't just 1 WWASP program I went through. I went through a total of 4 different programs. If you don't consider me a survivor having to endure being away from my family for 4 1/2 years going through everything I did, then what is your definition of being a "program survivor"? I'd be real curious to hear that one! Also, you obtained my name from fornits when I signed up. Either that or when I listed myself on classmates.com trying to find some of my long lost friends that met the same unfortunate fate that I did, to catch up on old times. I didn't sign up to have some fucking loser like yourself that likes to talk the talk, then can't walk the walk, then threaten to spread my name all over this board. How truly pathetic you are. Get a life buddy!

BTW, having my name listed, and having my picture put up on here (thanks to Niles, oh well someone posted yours too), at first it kinda pissed me off, I'll be honest, I wasn't real comfortable having that information just hanging out here. But, I figure if there hasn't been anyone murdered by an angry fornits poster yet, and I am talking about all Ed-Con's to Program Owners to random prickish staff that taunted some of us, and made our lives a living hell, then the chances of someone coming after me, are slim, to none.

If someone does decide to, then hey, when it's your time, it's your time! But, don't think for one second I am not aware of my surroundings. I also have a few family members that are in law enforcement, also some detectives that are undercover in the narcotics division, and it really is not a big deal to have my phones tapped, calls traced, or whatever it takes to find out who you are, and press charges. So, if you like stuff like that on your record, enjoy spending time in court, or love being behind bars, then go for it. I just pick up the phone and make one call, and that starts the ball in motion. So, please make sure this is really what you want to do. If you decide to show up at my house, first of all you would have to make it through security. If you did that, then my dogs would alert me, which then I would proceed to grab my husbands gun, and then I would have to blow your brains out all over my pretty house. Sorry, I am not nice like some people who might aim for a leg to disable you. I aim with the intent to kill.

I really like the majority of the people on here even though we have are disagreements. There are just a few of you that no matter what I say, or do, I will always be on their shit list! Oh well, that's the way it goes.
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« Reply #179 on: February 28, 2008, 05:10:13 PM »
Zen, you should have stuck with the PV forum.
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