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Frightening isn't quite the word.  "Willard" comes to mind.  Four separate entities....sort of.  Not only do rodents multiply, evil does too.  Doesn't one just want to give the ORS kudos.  So, they spanked Buccellato and allowed this. Why not?  They are a State agency and immune from prosecution... just maybe....stay tuned.

Hidden Lake Academy (Therapeutic Boarding School)
Mountain Brook Academy  (Therapeutic Treatment Center)
Ridge Creek (Outdoor Therapeutic School )
Ridge Creek ( Wilderness Program)
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Nothing illegal is being done here.  Just because you do not like it, or agree with it, does not mean ORS can stop it from happening.  Buccellato can put up as many programs as he would like.  If something inappropriate is being done, the the proper governing agencies will take care of it.  Let it go man.  It's done.  HLA is moving on and will end up doing just fine, just with more oversight now.  That is what was really needed.
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there doing the profit/non-profit dance again.

the two ridge creeks are one and the same physical entity, but two separate financial entities on paper. they set up a shell company to use to siphon off funds....again....

bucci is a clever yet stupid fuck, like a fox that forgets which way is up and keeps digging the tunnel deeper and deeper.

 he knows as much about money laundering as he does about "helping kids".
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Nothing illegal is being done here.  Just because you do not like it, or agree with it, does not mean ORS can stop it from happening.  Buccellato can put up as many programs as he would like.  If something inappropriate is being done, the the proper governing agencies will take care of it.  Let it go man.  It's done.  HLA is moving on and will end up doing just fine, just with more oversight now.  That is what was really needed.


REALLY?  THERE IS NO MORE OVERSIGHT THAN THERE WAS OR THIS NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED.  IT IS ALL A SMOKE SCREEN.  CLAY ERICKSON WAS STILL LISTED AS DIRECTOR OF ADDICTIONS..THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE THERE ACCORDING TO THE NAMED COLLEGES THAT NEVER RECEIVED THEIR DEGREES FROM THOSE COLLEGES.  SO WHAT HAS REALLY CHANGED?  IF THEY COULD NOT OPERATE ONE SCHOOL,THEIR LICENSE IS STILL TEMPORARY, NOW FOUR?  AND THE ADVERTISING TO COME IS JUST TOO MUCH!  GOTTA LOVE THE CREATIVITY!  THEY CAN CURE EVERYTHING!
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there doing the profit/non-profit dance again.

the two ridge creeks are one and the same physical entity, but two separate financial entities on paper. they set up a shell company to use to siphon off funds....again....

bucci is a clever yet stupid fuck, like a fox that forgets which way is up and keeps digging the tunnel deeper and deeper.

 he knows as much about money laundering as he does about "helping kids".

Awe, but remember, there is always a mastermind. 
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Things can only get better now that they are getting the proper oversight and are licensed.  The rest will fall into place, it takes time to shake it all out.  This is what everyone was pushing for.  Everybody wins !!
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Things can only get better now that they are getting the proper oversight and are licensed.  The rest will fall into place, it takes time to shake it all out.  This is what everyone was pushing for.  Everybody wins !!

Unfortunately you are dreaming.  One either has ethics or they don't.
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Things can only get better now that they are getting the proper oversight and are licensed.  The rest will fall into place, it takes time to shake it all out.  This is what everyone was pushing for.  Everybody wins !!
the "oversight" you have now is a sham. it's practically non-existent. i read the ORS report on the violations, they missed alot of crucial stuff. Most importantly, they still use "fall-out", which pits the kids against each other and causes violent conflicts. or the quality of the food....it's horrible. like prison food. i had full metabolic screen when i quit the place, i had extremely high levels of all sorts of nasty stuff. ever seen "super size me"? they use the cheapest possible ingredients at HLA.

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Unfortunately you are dreaming.  One either has ethics or they don't.

Ethics is the questioning, examination, and study of Morals.
one either has morals, or not.
my question for current HLA employess would be (particularly for the millitary and christian/mormon people), Have you examined your morals, or do you allow others to do so for you?
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Everyone was asking for oversight and licensing which we got.  If this is not working or helping then we should not fight for it anymore.  Why license the places then?
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Everyone was asking for oversight and licensing which we got.  If this is not working or helping then we should not fight for it anymore.  Why license the places then?

To answer your question, ORS was better than nothing for the children.  Although for years they did nothing, although they knew of HLA's operation as a CCI.  Yes, there is absolute proof.
ORS questioned and then backed down over the years.  The class suit pretty much pushed them into a corner and even as late as November, after all the reports and CPS findings, they were going to back down, until we lobbied.  Then December, the ORS declared them a CCI(Child Caring Institution).  You will notice the ORS has not published their findings during the investigation. They only publish anything after the CCI call.    ORS in my opinion has a moral and legal obligation to publish those findings. 

ORS has Sovereign Immunity, so ORS can push papers pretty much all they want.  ATT. GEN. BAKER, protects the ORS in the State of Georgia.
However, if they do not do their job, then he can step in.  Politics, why would he?  Simple, election year or press spin. Att. General Eliot Spitzer did it in NY, but he made an ethical(moral) call. 

Therefore, it is not only Buccellato whose ethics may be questioned.  If anything goes wrong, ORS should be held accountable now. 

Also the GAO should be held accountable as they are aware of what has transpired and continues.  They are Federal, above the ORS, and slow.
The Federal government is involved because of students being sent across state lines with IEP's, other States funding due to the "No Child Left Behind Act".
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Things can only get better now that they are getting the proper oversight and are licensed.  The rest will fall into place, it takes time to shake it all out.  This is what everyone was pushing for.  Everybody wins !!
the "oversight" you have now is a sham. it's practically non-existent. i read the ORS report on the violations, they missed alot of crucial stuff. Most importantly, they still use "fall-out", which pits the kids against each other and causes violent conflicts. or the quality of the food....it's horrible. like prison food. i had full metabolic screen when i quit the place, i had extremely high levels of all sorts of nasty stuff. ever seen "super size me"? they use the cheapest possible ingredients at HLA.

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Unfortunately you are dreaming.  One either has ethics or they don't.

Ethics is the questioning, examination, and study of Morals.
one either has morals, or not.
my question for current HLA employess would be (particularly for the millitary and christian/mormon people), Have you examined your morals, or do you allow others to do so for you?


This is interesting as the poster obviously is familiar with the ORS regulations regarding CCI's.  Maybe the poster should remind ORS of their own regulations.  
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It would seem unethical, not to mention misleading, to advertise as a Therapeutic Boarding School and Residential Treatment Center, when one is only licensed as a CCI.  Does the State of  Georgia not have licensed alcohol and drug rehabilitation facilities
with bonafide Addictionologists that have bonafide M.D.s.?

Just how does Buccellato propose to rehabilitate children with the miriad behavioral problems, drug and alcohol addictions, mental health disorders,etc?   Ask these questions.  Ask the ORS how they can only determine a CCI license will suffice.
The children will certainly not be "cured" by rolling logs or carrying rocks for hours on end.  Nor will the children be helped by using them as inexpensive labor.
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It would seem unethical, not to mention misleading, to advertise as a Therapeutic Boarding School and Residential Treatment Center, when one is only licensed as a CCI.  Does the State of  Georgia not have licensed alcohol and drug rehabilitation facilities
with bonafide Addictionologists that have bonafide M.D.s.?

Just how does Buccellato propose to rehabilitate children with the miriad behavioral problems, drug and alcohol addictions, mental health disorders,etc?   Ask these questions.  Ask the ORS how they can only determine a CCI license will suffice.
The children will certainly not be "cured" by rolling logs or carrying rocks for hours on end.  Nor will the children be helped by using them as inexpensive labor.

This isn’t a problem which is unique to HLA.

What most states and schools struggle with is that there are no categories for “Therapeutic Boarding Schools”.  Most states have not defined parameters for licensing so they choose something that is close like CCI so that they can at least get the place licensed and some regulation in place.  If they tried to apply the regulations of an “Alcohol and Drug rehab center” (for example)  then this wouldn’t cover the kids who were attending for non-addiction reasons.
 
This is a good question for ORS, as you stated.  If enough people hold their feet to the fire they may come up with licensing criteria…. As soon as one state does it the others can follow using it as a template.
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get the fuck out.
that's not the issue at all.
there's already a template for tbs regulations.
no one is jumping to model it and programs
aren't lobbying for monitoring and regulation.
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