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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2008, 01:55:36 AM »
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A fucking tiger pissed in my face one time....that shit hurt!


Can you please explain how this happened and how that's even possible? My mind can't get around your statement.
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2008, 02:17:07 AM »
And I apologize in advance to any non-inbred, non-retarded face painted, costume wearing Raider fans...my step dad has been a raider fan since the 60's and he's not stupid, so I know you're out there.
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2008, 02:24:39 AM »
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People being overwhelmed by the splendour of tanimals and forgetting their hazard, is a regular problem for Zoos. I think people get overwhelmed by transcendant emotions, and go temporarily insane. Have you read about Jerusalum Wall syndrome? "Normal" people visit it, and have "breaks with reality" regularly enough that staff are trained in how to deal with it.

On the other hand, wild animals and people can have real bonds. DId you hear about that man that lives with wolves and feeds them, FROM HIS MOUTH, like a mother wolf. Amazing....Or a man who adopted bears and raised them from babies. I am thinking about getting monkies, but I'd only do it if these animals could be "happy" in an indoor/outdoor semi-wild setting, and it didn't involve getting animals in an unethical way.


I think you're referring to "Jerusalem syndrome," where hundreds of people travel annually to Jerusalem under the delusion that they are god. I've seen a lot of people "break from reality" in the holy sites but these guys with the syndrome are on permanent leave of absence. In '99, I remember, a really big cult including several dozen children rented apartments around Jerusalem with the intention of committing mass suicide on New Year's Day. Police gathered intelligence, rounded them all up, and deported them back to the States.

My housemate in college kept a pair of monkeys caged indoors and in a short while the house was a lump of filth crawling with vermin. We had the whole place exterminated and mice and roaches by the tens of thousands lay dying. Not recommended.
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2008, 12:38:38 PM »
Yes I have heard about Jerusalem syndrome. I don't think what happens to yahoos at the zoo is the same thing. Jerusalem syndrome is a break with reality; yahoo zoo behavior is not understanding reality as relates to wild animals.

We once had some idiot soul get into the water with our river otters. The otters tore him up. He thought they look cute and playful (which they are) but he didn't understand this didn't mean they wanted to play with him.

And there have been several cases were some woefully ignorant person attempted to swim with the Polar bears. Polar Bears are among the most dangerous animals in the zoo. They often attempt to stalk their keepers. Those who work with them have to extremely careful. A moments inattention can get their heads tore clean off.

The pissing Tiger - I too had a very close call. I once had a friend who was a keeper at our zoo. His job for a time was night watch. He would tour the zoo checking on all the animals who were in their night closers - which in some cases means inside a large cage and not out in the exhibit.

One night he took me and my then husband on rounds with him. It was one of the best nights of my life. I had a blast.

But back to tiger piss -

We have a massive male Siberian tiger who was bottle raised and so friendly, as tigers go. He would shove his huge head against the cage to get his ears scratched. Now - no way would I have entered his cage - but I did enjoy scratching his big ole head for him.

The other tiger at the time was a younger female. She would rub up against the cage and sort of courtel - acting friendly. But if you got in front of her cage, she would whip around and blast urine at you.

I had been warned about this by my friend - but wanted a better look at her. The warning had been appropriate. She sent a blast out not unlike what you might imagine a fire hose could do. I mean it hit the facing wall with real force. She almost got me. As it was, it was just hilarious - but had she hit her target, I doubt I'd of been laughing.

There was a second female visiting from another zoo that had two cubs about the size of a maybe an Australia Shepherd. Big, but still kittens.  My then husband wanted a better look at them. After maybe ten seconds of eye balling this stranger, who was eye balling her cubs, she hit the fence with a roar that set our ears ringing. I mean she slamed into the fence with her full body - hanging onto it with all four feet - roaring directly into the man's face. My then husband had Tiger spit all over his face, and I am sure nearly pissed his pants.

The other amazing memory of that night was the elephant. They too, are among the most dangerous of the zoo animals - but no doubt also amoung (if not the) most intelligent. There was this one who reached her trunk out toward me, as if she wanted to say hello or smell me or something.

My friend was very nervous and insisting she could snap my arm like a twig. Well I know that. But she was being so gently inquisitive, I held my arm out so she could run her trunk along it. I couldn't get over how delicate she was with her trunk. She was gently plucking at the fine hair on my arm - she could lift an individual hair and feel it and go on to another. I was fascinated with this - then she ran her trunk the length of my arm, from elbow to wrist, leave a huge snot streak! She then turned away smiling. I swear - she was smiling.  

I am aware I could have been badly hurt. I knew it then. But I made the decision it was worth the risk of a broken arm to interact with the elephant. She couldn't have killed me, because she couldn't have gotten to me except with her trunk. So I took a chance I would never suggest anyone else take. But for me - it was worth it. I'll never for get it.

About the San Diego Tiger - A friend of mine who lives out there was telling me there is considerable proof the young men were teasing / tormenting the tiger. She says the lawyers have all the info tied up right now. But apparently, there is considerable proof.

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I think you're referring to "Jerusalem syndrome," where hundreds of people travel annually to Jerusalem under the delusion that they are god. I've seen a lot of people "break from reality" in the holy sites but these guys with the syndrome are on permanent leave of absence.


No - the other poster is correct. Normal men and women go to see the Holy Land and find they are effected with the delusion they are Jesus, or a prophet maybe - but once they are removed from Israel and Jerusalem, they recover completely, and are left to wonder what on earth happen to them. The mental hospitals in Israel are trained to deal with this, and coined the term Jerusalem Syndrome; The cure is get them on a plane home ASAP.  Frontline once did a whole show on this. Fascinating stuff.
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2008, 02:40:37 PM »
San Francisco Zoo


(not san diego)
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2008, 03:04:30 PM »
Jerusaleum snydrome...?

That is some fascinating shit.

I went to Jerusalem in 97'. I was staying at this hostel in the Old city (smack dab center of all things religious) and I was in the lounge reading.
This american dude (40 or so) rolls up on me and starts talking. I could sense he was an odd one but I was bored so I kept talking to him. Before I know it this guy says he is the second coming, he tells me he is Jesus christ. I acted uneffected and barely interested but kept the conversation going. But in my head I'm sitting there going, "holy shit, what the fuck is going on here"? I mean, I'm tripping out on this guy.
He starts telling me all these stories about how he has cured blindness, aids, you name it.
The icing on the cake was when he whipped out his California drivers license and this sodbuster had legally changed his name to "Jesus Christ".
He tells me how he just wanders the planet, straight up vagabond style, with no money and relies on the kindness of others.

I'm sitting there going, "holy fuck, I'm in Jerusalem, at a hostel, and I'm talking to jesus christ himself".

Trips me out remembering that shit. That experience really showed me how bizarre christianity, judaism and muslim (sp) is. I mean we're all supposed to believe these outlandish cartoon stories from 2000 years ago but should we encounter a person telling modern day stories about weird impossible shit - well we just call them insane crazy bastards.
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2008, 03:16:38 PM »
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you're going to get monkeys? Do you really need to be that 'different' and 'special'?

Go join the peace corps and live in some undeveloped 3rd world country if you want to be closer to nature.

Don't get a monkey.Thinking of you getting a monkey makes me want to pet cats innapropriately.



No, yon confidant, I’m already too ingloriously “differentâ€
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2008, 03:21:08 PM »
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Jerusaleum snydrome...?

That is some fascinating shit.

I went to Jerusalem in 97'. I was staying at this hostel in the Old city (smack dab center of all things religious) and I was in the lounge reading.
This american dude (40 or so) rolls up on me and starts talking. I could sense he was an odd one but I was bored so I kept talking to him. Before I know it this guy says he is the second coming, he tells me he is Jesus christ. I acted uneffected and barely interested but kept the conversation going. But in my head I'm sitting there going, "holy shit, what the fuck is going on here"? I mean, I'm tripping out on this guy.
He starts telling me all these stories about how he has cured blindness, aids, you name it.
The icing on the cake was when he whipped out his California drivers license and this sodbuster had legally changed his name to "Jesus Christ".
He tells me how he just wanders the planet, straight up vagabond style, with no money and relies on the kindness of others.

I'm sitting there going, "holy fuck, I'm in Jerusalem, at a hostel, and I'm talking to jesus christ himself".

Trips me out remembering that shit. That experience really showed me how bizarre christianity, judaism and muslim (sp) is. I mean we're all supposed to believe these outlandish cartoon stories from 2000 years ago but should we encounter a person telling modern day stories about weird impossible shit - well we just call them insane crazy bastards.


That's just sad. I hope he encounters people with kindess, not exploiters.

Right. Bush says he "speaks to the father," and he's a moral leader, say you are the father, you're a nut....interesting distinction

 Anyone whose not an athiest...i don't get the thinking
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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2008, 03:30:42 PM »
bought tickets for the zombie apocolyspe, and everyone's invited


hell yes. Let's party - 28 weeks style.


I thought you were in an apartment. If you got acres of land, well, that's a different story. I'm still not promonkey ownership because that means some bastards are over in Africa are yanking them out of their natural habitiat. The poachers in Africa are ruthless. So it's the poachy yanking I'm not happy about. They kill rhinos and elephants just for the horns. It's these poachers that nab the monkeys and then sells them to whom ever makes a living selling wild animals from africa.
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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2008, 03:50:02 PM »
I'd also caution against a pet monkey. Honestly - letting it scamper free is just not practical. It would get its self killed pretty quick, I'd think.  

Unless you live in Africa or India, South East Aisa or China - you do not live where monkeys are supposed to be roaming free. Mixing them with the local flora and fauna may be courting disaster. This is often how new exotic diseases get their start.  

And also keep in mind - monkeys can and do get real mean. They bite and they throw shit (literally) all over the place.  

As relates to monkeys and their capture and transport and marketing, and the potentially serious health hazard this might cause (not to mention the pain and stress the monkeys endure) you might want to read "The Hot Zone".  

Jerusalem Syndrome - might have been Nova and not Frontline that did the show on it.  DishDuty, it sounds like your guy was a more run of the mill psychotic. That  might be why he was allowed to stay. Israel is very firm that victims of Jerusalem syndrome leave the country ASAP. And what is so odd - when they do, they recover. That's the thing I find so fascinating.
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2008, 03:57:26 PM »
buzzkill

we'll never know who he really was.
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2008, 04:15:12 PM »
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I'd also caution against a pet monkey. Honestly - letting it scamper free is just not practical. It would get its self killed pretty quick, I'd think.  

Unless you live in Africa or India, South East Aisa or China - you do not live where monkeys are supposed to be roaming free. Mixing them with the local flora and fauna may be courting disaster. This is often how new exotic diseases get their start.  

And also keep in mind - monkeys can and do get real mean. They bite and they throw shit (literally) all over the place.  

As relates to monkeys and their capture and transport and marketing, and the potentially serious health hazard this might cause (not to mention the pain and stress the monkeys endure) you might want to read "The Hot Zone".

People, I'm not an idiot!   :P   :P I'll elaborate: “they’d be kept like my cat, free on acres of land, which would be fenced-in, monkey-appropriately. I’d never get a poached animal, either.Geez, if I pursue this, I’ll investigate contraindications.   :D  :D

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Mixing them with the local flora and fauna may be courting disaster. This is often how new exotic diseases get their start.


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Are you trying to talk me out of getting a monkey?
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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2008, 08:40:10 PM »
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San Francisco Zoo (not san diego)

I don't know why I can't keep that in my head. I keep making that mistake even tho I know better.

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People, I'm not an idiot!   I'll elaborate: “they’d be kept like my cat, free on acres of land, which would be fenced-in, monkey-appropriately. I’d never get a poached animal, either.Geez, if I pursue this, I’ll investigate contraindications.

Well if you have the resources to properly fence in acres of land, then by  all means go for it. In fact, if you have the resources to do that kind of fencing, you might want to look into wild life rehab work. I'd love to get into that - I want a RVL so I can rehab foxes and raccoons and so on - but I can't afford to build the proper enclosures. Someday maybe.

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Anyone whose not an athiest...i don't get the thinking


I'd be pleased to try and explain for you - but not here. Feel free to write if you feel like "talking" about it.
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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2008, 08:46:44 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2008, 08:51:59 PM »
This thread is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria. What I mean is Old Testament shit, Mr. Mayor, real wrath-of-God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes....The dead rising from the grave.

(courtesy of Ghostbusters)
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