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Re: HAPA
Anonymous:
Maybe a little strange. But this is more about Mr. Mortenson's passed, not what he does now.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "guest" ---Maybe a little strange. But this is more about Mr. Mortenson's passed, not what he does now.
--- End quote ---
Not necessarily... Although I don't know what Lee Mortenson's activities with MKP currently are, I don't think he and his wife would have brought it up and put it on their website, if they did not consider it relevant to, or at least in philosophical accord with, the work they do now.
Their website, RelationshipTraining.net, appears to be part of a small "web ring" of sites that all connect to one another. Although it isn't "officially" designated as such, if you go to any of these other sites, they all list each other as "affiliates" or "partners."
http://www.relationshiptraining.net (Lee Mortenson and Carol Kirkland)
http://www.relationshipcounselling.ca (Lisa and Ken Little)
http://www.consciouslives.com (Gail Waldman)
http://www.intimacytraining.com (Doug and Naomi Moseley)[/list]
All of the people noted in the first three sites underwent, or are in the process of completing, a 4-yr training program in "The Moseley Method," taught by the couple noted in the last site. There are actually even more "disciples" and some of their sites noted on the Moseley's site, on the "Retreat Staffing" page. I'm getting the impression -- which may very well be wrong, of course -- that coming back to work as staff for retreats on the "Mother Campus" may, in fact, be part of the whole arrangement in getting this "training" in the first place.
Do note the Numero Uno quote on the Testimonials page of the Moseleys's site:
"I'm so grateful for your help in opening me up to the
parts of myself I couldn't see and the shadows and patterns
I only knew of vaguely and uncomfortably. Now that I see
these I can do something about them and choose a lively,
engaged life with my wife that was impossible before."
Alan Gilburg, executive in Mankind Project, Washington, DC
Perhaps more importantly is the similarity in the lingo I see used in both MKP material as well as Moseley-related material... I have come across phrases and concepts like "working with your Shadow" (or "Shadow-work"), the "Integrity of the Container," "digging deeper," and "feeding relationships"... Anybody hear any of this language at Hyde or HAPA functions?
Anonymous:
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
* www.relationshiptraining.net (Lee Mortenson and Carol Kirkland)
* www.relationshipcounselling.ca (Lisa and Ken Little)
* www.consciouslives.com (Gail Waldman)
* http://www.intimacytraining.com (Doug and Naomi Moseley)
All of the people noted in the first three sites underwent, or are in the process of completing, a 4-yr training program in "The Moseley Method," taught by the couple noted in the last site. There are actually even more "disciples" and some of their sites noted on the Moseley's site, on the "Retreat Staffing" page. I'm getting the impression -- which may very well be wrong, of course -- that coming back to work as staff for retreats on the "Mother Campus" may, in fact, be part of the whole arrangement in getting this "training" in the first place.
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((((LMFAO)))) Just sub in "Hyde" for "Moseley" and "character development" for "Moseley Method". What is this four year training? Highschool for parents going thru midlife crisis?
Ursus:
Also... Aside from the similarity in lingo used, check out the general tenor of the "Moseley disciple" sites, especially when it comes to the personal bio pages. It's almost as if a single entity either set up or "polished up" each website. Each bio tells essentially the same tale, with but minor variations of:
* a successful and rewarding professional life, generally financially rewarding as well;
* confession of a previously stagnant personal life, one which was not "feeding" one enough;
* the recognition of the need or desire to change and "dig deeper;"
* several years spent taking workshops and the like from the Moseleys;
* consequent restored meaning to their lives, and renewed life to their relationships;
* embarkment on the 4-yr training program with the Moseleys;
* creation of their own relationship coaching endeavors, complete with personal website.
Note also the general construction of the sites; looks like the same template was used for all of them. The icons used for the URLs are all the same (which, incidentally, is the also same icon used for the HAPA site).
Earlier, I posted the About Us page from Lee Mortenson & Carol Kirkland's site Relationship Training, LLC ("Support for your intimate relationships with others and with yourself"). Here is the analogous page from Lisa & Ken Little... Actually, it looks like it really is primarily Lisa Little. Ken makes his living being an attorney in Calgary, according to testimony allegedly left by him on the Moseley's site.
It would appear that the Littles are not quite as far along in this process as our HAPA friends in suburban Washington-DC are. If I read the material correctly, they may not have finished their 4-yr apprenticeship yet, and the site does not yet have a Testimonials page...
Relationship Counselling
For a more intimate relationship with yourself and others
About Lisa Little
Lisa was born in Niagara Falls, Canada in 1955. She attended the University of Calgary where she received her Undergraduate degree in Psychology and her Graduate degree in Counselling Psychology. She is a Chartered Psychologist.
Her professional career has included support for autistic children and their families and five years working at a residential treatment Centre, Woods Homes, with behaviorally and emotionally challenged teenagers and their families. In the late 80's, she accepted a position as a tenured faculty member with Mount Royal College, providing support in the Counselling Department and teaching Psychology courses in the Behavioral Sciences Department.
Five years ago, Lisa chose to leave her academic position to strengthen her parental support for her teenage son and launched Relationship Counselling to support individuals and couples hungry for more intimate relationships with themselves and others. The practice uses a unique emotional-body focused approach to relationship, based upon the work of Douglas & Naomi Moseley.
On a more personal note, Lisa has been married to Ken Little for almost 25 years. Most of these years were spent living in a brother-sister type of relationship and there was little emotional and sexual intimacy between them. Years of withholding from one another contributed to the deadening of the relationship and the Littles were close to separating when they were referred to the Moseleys.
Recognizing their own need for a change, Lisa and Ken have been doing their personal and relational work together for the past seven years and, having experienced the richness of doing a deeper type of work, joined a small group of students in the Moseley four year apprenticeship program.
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