Excessive Restraints

[TheWho]

Seems like there is a huge gap in between Intervention #s 2 and 3.  Does spitting necessitate a sedative in response these days?

The spitting in and of itself doesn’t necessitate a sedative, I can agree with that.  The spitting episode was a clear sign that the staff wasn’t going to be successful in talking down Francisco.  This seems like a good example of controlling a situation from getting out of hand.. Removing the other kids from the area… trying to talk to the child before moving on to restraints.  I cant see anything that could have been added to the procedure that would have improved things any.  Does anyone else?



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Yeah, I worked for several years in two of the "industry's" worst shit-pits.  NEVER, not even once, EVER, did I have to put my hands on or restrain a child in any way.  It's simply not necessary.  A skilled clinician never needs to resort to violence against a child.  I proved that personally for years and I had some of the "worst" kids ever admitted.

This was my sense too.  I thought it to be extremely rare to have to use restraints on a child.  Most schools would have the child removed or transfered to a hospital setting after an initial occurance.  This isnt something that would continue in most TBS's.  You stated you worked in the worse of the worse places and it was still very rare, which tells me the use of restraints is confined to a few schools in the industry.



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[Anonymous]

No, what I said was that I never had to restrain a child.  I worked with a bunch of thugs and quacks that seemed to get off on doing it.  My point is that it is never necessary, period (before anyone moans and groans, yes, if the kid is actively harming self or others I would intervene physically to stop the violence, but kids like this shouldn't be candidates for these places).

So, yes, restraint is extremely common in these places and more often than not, it is administered for the wrong reasons and done incorrectly by untrained, uneducated staff.

[Anonymous]

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