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Offline Che Gookin

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Merry Christmas TO All Program Supporters!
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2007, 09:56:12 PM »
It tells us that the rest have yet to reach fornits. Don't worry luv they'll be along shortly.
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« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2007, 10:44:13 PM »
Here's a better question:

Why are all the pro-program forums locked away so you can't even view them?

No, seriously, answer that one. If they're so damn proud why are they so afraid?

(BTW, there's a LOT more than Fornits out there. Anti-wwasp, Myspace and Facebook, ISAC testimony, etc, etc, etc..)
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« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2007, 03:17:40 AM »
very true on the last post. Veritable slew of information to be found if you know where to look for it.
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« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2007, 03:23:55 AM »
Bump that.

cedualumni.com has been in effect for years and there ain't shit on it.

10 posts in 4 years.
1000 views in 4 years.

http://cedualumni.com/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=42



cedulalumni is where the walking wounded come to gaze at the burned out foxhole.

Then they come to fornits, see a brother in arms and get the strength to forge on with a lighter load.
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Merry Christmas TO All Program Supporters!
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2007, 07:57:20 AM »
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Quote from: ""Lain the Odd""
Do me a favor, would you, O struggling parents?

Visit your favorite beloved programs around Christmas. In fact, do it today. Look around - just look at the kids. You probably don't even need to say anything. Don't worry about whatever faux festivities, if any, they're putting on - just look at them, really see them.

Then tell me that you're helping anyone. I hope for your sake that you can't.

Have you ever actually seen the inside of a program before? The children are happy to be getting the help the need.

Yes, that's why there are a great abundance of them posting here.

No, they are mostly looking at college web sites trying to decide where to go next.

Oh... and I know from personal experience how much a program can really help that process. ("uh.... and so you finished high school where?!?!").  What I recommend (what I did) is to find a college as dodgy as the program that doesn't care where you came from, as long as you're willing to pay tuition.  From there, you can (hopefully) upgrade to a better college (as i did).

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The ones who drop out of programs or dont apply themselves end up at fornits.


Right...  Like they can't do both.  I just graduated college.
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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2007, 12:36:26 PM »
once you get out of a program, it definitely takes some time before you are ready to accept what you just went through!  so after almost 18 years, i found Fornits, and a bunch of other places....so, the number of people willing to talk and make a difference is only growing!
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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2007, 12:48:30 PM »
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Bump that.

cedualumni.com has been in effect for years and there ain't shit on it.

10 posts in 4 years.
1000 views in 4 years.

http://cedualumni.com/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=42



cedulalumni is where the walking wounded come to gaze at the burned out foxhole.

Then they come to fornits, see a brother in arms and get the strength to forge on with a lighter load.


My highschool had 78 graduates in my class and only one or two have posted on the Alumni forum in the past decade.
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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2007, 08:08:44 PM »
Do 1000s of your highschool classmates post on a cult survivor network forum describing how damaged they were by being systematically tortured at your "highschool" ? IF so, the comparison would have some meaning

Every night I have nightmares about what I saw done to little children. I can't sleep and I have stomach problems and intense ptsd

I didn't like highschool much, but it rarely crosses my mind today, and I'm not long out of it.
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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2007, 08:41:11 PM »
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Do 1000s of your highschool classmates post on a cult survivor network forum describing how damaged they were by being systematically tortured at your "highschool" ? IF so, the comparison would have some meaning

Every night I have nightmares about what I saw done to little children. I can't sleep and I have stomach problems and intense ptsd

I didn't like highschool much, but it rarely crosses my mind today, and I'm not long out of it.


I think that is the point.  There is a survivor alumni forum called cedualumni.com which would be for people who attended cedu.  â€œDishâ€
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« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2007, 08:48:13 PM »
Whitmore Academy Nephi, Utah. Abuse by owners, Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks 2004.
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« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2007, 09:03:57 PM »
the happy children in the programs are carving into their bodies, chewing holes in their cheeks and wrists. (yeah mother fucker program supporters I WAS THERE, I SAW IT, I EXPERIENCED IT ) they are developing ulcers, colitis, PTSD, paranoia, damaged joints, some are murdered, countless have commited suicide.

who the fuck would say that these children are happy to be getting the help they need? oh wait, that's a direct quote from ruth ann newton, who by the way i called last night at 3 in the morning her time. she answered so awake and perky. is she on the forum feeding off the heartache of children?

it is exhausting to be here, to read about the pain and damaged lives (the gift that keeps on giving)

do some come here because the pain and heartache give them energy?, and to promote more pain and heartache because the molestation of children is the substance of who they are. no feelings of shame, just a titilating joy to read.

and if the universe is watching, i am so ashamed of the human race.

let us redeem ourselves, speaking up for truth, showing compassion and call for arrest of these monsters who are child abusers. the state of florida refuses to hold anyone accountable for the death of 14 year old martin lee anderson. we all saw him being murdered on tape. visual evidence was not enough. what is enough.

please let me know, if anyone can or will, what is enough. because i am ready to fight for justice.
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« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2007, 09:07:30 PM »
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Whitmore Academy Nephi, Utah. Abuse by owners, Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks 2004.


If more people could be open about their experiences, like you have, we could pinpoint the more abusive programs and steer the parents (reading here) away from them.

Thanks guest.



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« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2007, 11:23:59 PM »
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Do 1000s of your highschool classmates post on a cult survivor network forum describing how damaged they were by being systematically tortured at your "highschool" ? IF so, the comparison would have some meaning

Every night I have nightmares about what I saw done to little children. I can't sleep and I have stomach problems and intense ptsd

I didn't like highschool much, but it rarely crosses my mind today, and I'm not long out of it.


I think that is the point.  There is a survivor alumni forum called cedualumni.com which would be for people who attended cedu.  â€œDishâ€
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« Reply #43 on: December 28, 2007, 06:48:46 PM »
My point in posting the fact that cedualumni.com is a barren wasteland is this.

10 years post CEDU:

1. Of all CEDU students, (let's say 10,000) I'd estimate that 10% are pro-cedu.

2. 50% are pissed off for being dunked and held under in the developmental detour tank of kool aid.

3. The other 40% are in a catatonic, ambivalent state and will hopefully snap out of it sooner than later.

(Of course there are shades of grey in categories 2 & 3)

I spent:

- 1 year in category 1.
- 13 years in category 3.
- The last 3 years in category 2.


Furthermore, Staff Members like Rey kreider and Brett Carey go on to ASR and spread the synanon legacy. I'm sure when they worked at ASR, their Bio's made bold reference to their illustrious CEDU experience. The list goes on and on, The Tim Braces, Steve Rookeys, Bruce Wilsons, on and on and on. These OG's are still working at modern day TBSs. Have they owned up to the bullshit they pulled?

Both the corrupt power staff and "well-intentioned, trying to help the kids" staff members need to own up to their active and passive roles.

For the love of god, even the Good Ol' USA provides a bare minimum owning up. For example, Affirmitave Action and Black History month for subjagating African Americans to slavery. We let the Native Americans run their own show on their reservations in return for letting us commit near genocide and Grand Theft Country. Classic chickenshit lipservice. We still screw them in plenty of ways. Look at our identity/passport policy for Native Americans.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domestic ... 3120071212) . (Sweet dreams with your small pox blanket).

Go ask anyone signing off on US policy for Tribal nations to be dead honest with you. If they were honest they'd tell you , "hey, come one, really now, Native Americans aren't "Real" americans".

Why cant the TBS industry publicly own up to it's corrupt cult foundations, clean up the mess they made and overhaul their present system?

...Gee, can you say shareholder profits and culty ego boosts for the power staff?

I need a nap. I just went from raps to dunk tanks to Indian casinos and MLK all in one breath.
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« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2007, 08:17:46 PM »
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Do 1000s of your highschool classmates post on a cult survivor network forum describing how damaged they were by being systematically tortured at your "highschool" ? IF so, the comparison would have some meaning

Every night I have nightmares about what I saw done to little children. I can't sleep and I have stomach problems and intense ptsd

I didn't like highschool much, but it rarely crosses my mind today, and I'm not long out of it.


I think that is the point.  There is a survivor alumni forum called cedualumni.com which would be for people who attended cedu.  â€œDishâ€
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