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Offline SilmarilOne

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« on: July 01, 2003, 01:18:00 AM »
Almost every time I come to this forum and read some posts I start crying and get a strong urge to cut or kill myself.  And yet I keep doing it!  Why do I do it?

-thomas-
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2003, 02:12:00 AM »
I don't have all the answers man, but something about the forum must make you feel a sense of comfort.  Yeah, there were times when I would log onto the board, and leave feeling more empty than when I logged on, but I would pick up my walkman and some tunes and go take a long walk. Some nights I would leave my house at like quarter to four in the morning and watch the sun rise on the shores of Tampa Bay.  I never learned to direct my anger towards myself, I always break something outside of myself, and usually something that does not cost very much.  I want you to remember something that my Sociology Teacher said to our class during my Senior year once I became free of Straight.  "Suicide is merely a Permanent Solution to a Temporary Problem."
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Inside a warehouse behind Tyrone Mall
we walked in darkness, kept hitting the wall.
I took the time to feel for the door,
I had been \"treated\" but what the hell for?

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2003, 09:33:00 AM »
Because your looking for answers. The Answer. The part of you that keeps you here is the part of you that wants to know for sure it was not your fault, that you are not inherently BAD, defective.
WELL YOU ARE NOT! You are a normal human who was put through a bad experience that never should have happened. Why did it happen then, you ask? Hmmm, because some people in this world are nothing but evil. But for every one evil person there are 1,000,000 good people. You are one of them. Take a break from all this if you must, come back when you are ready to, and never feel like you have to.  Or, volunteer in your community. Type in Volunteer Oppurtunities in your favorite search engine, and see what comes up. Volunteering has helped me ALOT.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2003, 11:11:00 AM »
Anon said that you are here because you are looking for answers. This is true. Why did this happen to us? Most likely because we were teens who were a bit more rebellious in combination with other things (I'm ADHD) than our parents were ready or capable of handling. Some parents were less capable than others. Our parents were sold this dream that if they put us in straight we'd come out the children they always wanted. Strong, proud, patriotic law abiding citizens. Then, once they had bought into this dream, they were told that if we said anything bad about straight, we were simply "druggie" liars still caught up in our "disease." The parents still had the dream and no one would back us up, because part of moving on was invokeing the fight or flight response which insured an every man for himself self preservation reaction. To have someone back me on what I was saying would be for them to invite their own demise. I know, for me once I was on 4th and 5th, I could not have gone back through the program and would do anything to keep from being started over. I just couldn't have done first again.

When all the programming I had recieved in that place began to unravel, I started going through the same things that you are talking about. I thought about suicide long and often. In the back of my head the little voice kept telling me that was not the answer. I had been to a counselor before straight and gave him a call. I made an appointment and while I didn't talk about my experiences in straight (it was still quite some time before I made that connection) I talked about everything else I had fears and doubts about. I thought I was completly off my rocker. When I get really stressed, there is this thing that occurs. When I am trying to go to sleep I get what I call loud thoughts. It is like someone yells inside my head. Needless to say I nearly jump out of my skin when it happens. Bizzare, huh? From what I understand this is something that can occur with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrone. Hmmmm, straight->PTSD, who would have thought it?

I, like you, was also on staff. While I do carry some guilt for this I think it may be like the guilt I carred for fucking up the lives of my druggie friends. Pure hubris. Damn near all of the people I hung around with are very successful business people or have post graduate degrees and that kind of thing. Same thing with phasers I was close to while on staff. One of them just got into med school and so forth. Why do I think this way? Because that place taught me to think that way. It is flawed! It places me in the position of God, whom I am not.

The last thing is that you sound quite depressed. You might want to see a physician and see about a serotonin uptake inhibitor. It is an anti-depressent that blocks the serotonin receptor on the dendrite or axion, I can't remember which. They take about two-weeks to reach full effectiveness, but give you the ability to look at facts much more objectively while preventing the "I'm a complete failure," thinking from taking over the process.

Just my two cents.

Clay
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2003, 12:56:00 PM »
ClayL wrote:
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When I am trying to go to sleep I get what I call loud thoughts. It is like someone yells inside my head. Needless to say I nearly jump out of my skin when it happens. Bizzare, huh? From what I understand this is something that can occur with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrone. Hmmmm, straight->PTSD, who would have thought it?


I have the same thing happens to me.

SilmarilOne,
A good therapist has really helped me sort through a lot. You need people that understand and can relate to you. That's why I come here. Here I have a past with people that KNOW what it was like. Nowhere else can I find this.
What happened to us was wrong, and reading about it can bring the feelings of it all back to the surface. Just remmber you are not alone.
Morli
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2003, 12:57:00 PM »
ClayL wrote:
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When I am trying to go to sleep I get what I call loud thoughts. It is like someone yells inside my head. Needless to say I nearly jump out of my skin when it happens. Bizzare, huh? From what I understand this is something that can occur with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrone. Hmmmm, straight->PTSD, who would have thought it?


I have the same thing happen to me.

SilmarilOne,
A good therapist has really helped me sort through a lot. You need people that understand and can relate to you. That's why I come here. Here I have a past with people that KNOW what it was like. Nowhere else can I find this.
What happened to us was wrong, and reading about it can bring the feelings of it all back to the surface. Just remember you are not alone.
Morli

ps - you get a twofer!!!
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2003, 02:11:00 PM »
thomas -

   I do care.  IT MATTERS to me whether or not you are happy, it matters to me that you are safe. And you can be, right this instant, if you want to be.  Just feel free to keep typing on this board.  Vent here.  Doesn't matter what you have to say, or how you say it, just say it. You are one of thousands of people who go through the same thing for the same reason - senseless abuse.
But thomas, it's over. I promise they can't hurt you anymore. You are in power of your own life, your own freedom. I swear on my life that if you just keep going, keep living each moment loudly or quitely as you can, you'll be alright. You don't know who I am, and I don't know you personally, but I vow to be Pulling for you every moment. I'm sending all the good vibes I've got your way, I totally am all about Thomas from this point on.  GO THOMAS! Think of me as your anonymos cheerleader.  Picture it in your mind. Know that there is someone - and it's not just me - who fully supports you every step of the way. I want to hear from you again. How about this....post again on the board, and tell me one good thing that happened to you today, or that you did today, no matter how trivial it may seem to you. Ok?  I'll be looking for it.

- Thomas' Cheerleader.
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2003, 05:00:00 PM »
Thomas- Coming to this site has opened the flood gates to feelings and memories we haven't experienced in a long time and it can be a bit overwhelming.  Perhaps you would feel comfortable enough to share a particular post that got to you and why it made you think and feel the way you do.  I'm sure someone here will be able to provide some insight into how they dealt with similar thoughts and feelings.  Hopefully this will help you break this vicious cycle that Straight has created.
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2003, 05:36:00 PM »
A South African man died trying to cut his own head off with a butcher's band saw in a major supermarket, police said on Wednesday.

Superintendent Jay Naicker said the Shoprite Checkers store in Richards Bay had been ready to close on Monday when the man wandered in and headed for the meat department. "He just walked in, went to the band saw machine and switched it on," Naicker told Reuters. "Apparently he knew what he was doing. He put his neck to the blade and it cut about half way through before he fell to the floor."

Naicker said the man, later identified as 31-year-old Emmanuel Gumbi, was pronounced dead at the scene.

He said police had turned up no motive for the suicide, which stunned staff and shoppers at the store in northern Kwazulu-Natal province.
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Inside a warehouse behind Tyrone Mall
we walked in darkness, kept hitting the wall.
I took the time to feel for the door,
I had been \"treated\" but what the hell for?