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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2007, 08:37:25 PM »
Lucky for you this guy sounds like some desperate weirdo.

But if he wanted to rape or kill you, or whatever, a baby monitor in your office is not going to give you anything other than false peace of mind. The guy could of just waited by your car, forced you in and you are both gone, forever.

Take this as a mild wake up call that you must ALWAYS be prepared that some psycho wants to hurt you and take your life, FOR NO REASON.
That's just the way the world is, unfortunately.

Did the police even question/arrest the guy? I'm guessing no...?

Don't ever expect people to come to your aid. You will be gravely dissapointed. .45 in the Drawer is not a bad idea.
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2007, 09:16:19 PM »
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Everybody has access to the same luxury, just depends on your priorities.  There is this girl down near my in-laws (which is a nice neighborhood) who gave up her house in a less safe neighborhood to move here.  She has a condominium unit and her kid gets to attend a dam good school for the tax money.

People in the unsafe neighborhoods choose to live there and tough it out, buy guns and knives to protect themselves.  Others don’t want that for their families and move to a better area.  They may have to go back to school, learn a trade etc. to increase their pay.  But anyone can live pretty much anywhere they want.



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Everybody gots access t'de same luxury, plum depends on yo' prio'ities. Dere be dis goat waaay down near mah' in-laws (which be a supa fine neighbo'hood) who gave down ha' crib in some less safe neighbo'hood t'move here. She gots a condominium unit and ha' kid digs t'attend some dam baaaad farm fo' de tax bre'd. Sucka's in de unsafe neighbo'hoods choose t'live dere and tough it out, steal guns and knives t'protect demselves. Oders don’t wants' dat fo' deir families and move t'a betta' area. WORD! Dey may gots'ta go back t'farm, learn some trade etc. Co' got d' beat! t'increase deir pay. But any sucka kin live fine much anywhere dey wants'.
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2007, 09:28:59 PM »
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Everybody has access to the same luxury, just depends on your priorities.  There is this girl down near my in-laws (which is a nice neighborhood) who gave up her house in a less safe neighborhood to move here.  She has a condominium unit and her kid gets to attend a dam good school for the tax money.

People in the unsafe neighborhoods choose to live there and tough it out, buy guns and knives to protect themselves.  Others don’t want that for their families and move to a better area.  They may have to go back to school, learn a trade etc. to increase their pay.  But anyone can live pretty much anywhere they want.



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sorry buddy but not everyone has the same opprotunities.
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/ ... v06hi.html

35.9 million americans live in poverty. if you are struggling to put food on the table, good luck moving and finding a new job and place to live. especially if you're in debt. go to school you say? if youre parents never graduated high school, and you go to a shit school where you're more likely to become a dealer and never learn to read, than go to college. belive it or not, america is not the suburban paradise you imagine. not everyone can own a McMansion, drive a hummer or prius, or send their kids to decent schools. you give that example of the woman who moved and sent her kids to a good school. that is fairly rare in america, it usually only happens in the northeast, around atlanta, parts of texas and california, and thats about it - and even then to go to a decent school you have to be making 30-40 thou/year.  everywhere else low-income neighborhoods have bad schools and are plauged with various other symptoms of poverty. and high income neighborhoods almost always have decent schools. you might find a few low-income areas which dont look as bad - but people pay a price somehow. usually it's with cancer 50 years later because they live next to big industy, or when they find out there living on top of toxic waste.


besides that though, i'm sure anne works there not just because she has to, but because she wants to. maybe she wants to help people with legal problems or whatever she does. just cuz you're a cop, or crab fisherman, or fireman, or any other dangerous job also doesnt mean you're screwed up or anything. you're the fucked up one, who. You manage the danger (with cops- carry guns, vest; fishermen-beacon, lifevest...etc)....you dont run away from your job or neighborhood like a pussy cuz you got scared.  
our forefathers gave us the right to carry arms to be able to protect ourselves, because you can never rely on superman/spiderman/the police to instantaneously swoop down and save you whenever you're in danger.

annie get your gun.
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2007, 09:52:42 PM »
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…if youre parents never graduated high school, and you go to a shit school where you're more likely to become a dealer and never learn to read, than go to college.

Of course and this is why the poverty level is the way it is.  Becoming a drug dealer is a choice, learning to read is a choice, going to college is a choice.  Is it easier for rich kids?  Sure.  But if a kid wants to get out bad enough they will study and do well and move on to college.

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…. you dont run away from your job or neighborhood like a pussy cuz you got scared.

Its not running scared.  Its making a choice for your family.  If a person wants to live there it is fine and many do.  All I am saying is I wouldn’t want that for me or my family.  I have a state police officer living in the same neighborhood as my sister which is a nice area.  I know if he lived in a not so nice area with a school system which wasn’t as nice he could have had a much bigger house and shorter commute, more money in his pockets but he weighed his priorities.

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our forefathers gave us the right to carry arms to be able to protect ourselves


Yes they did, but it is a choice, not everyone is required to carry a gun.  Not many people carry weapons now a days anyway, except those in the south and poorly educated areas.  We have people living up in Maine in the woods and such who still have a gun in their car, some even teach their kids to shoot.  Totally blows me away.  Anyway that’s a different topic.

But yes digging yourself out of a hole is difficult, but everyone has a personal choice to become what they want to be.  You think we have it bad you should see how it is living in some of the post soviet countries and the obstacles they need to overcome just to feed their families.  If all they had to do is make the choice to learn to read, not do drugs and go to college they would all be in college!!



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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2007, 10:59:26 PM »
You think a college education for everyone is the way to end poverty?
Get outta here. You ignorant fool. Your college education didn't teach you much about anything important. Just gave you the financial means to run from unpleasant realities. When starving people start marauding your house, will you pick up a gun? Or feed them?
Have you ever seriously contemplated the absurdity of that comment? It's a myth perpetrated by politicians to distract from the real issues of poverty. Can this country employ 250million college grads? No.

Does your maid, cook, nanny, chauffuer, grounds keeper have college degrees? God forbid everyone have one.. then you'd have to clean your own house, cook your food, drive yourself, mow your yard, care for your own children, and wipe your own ass.

Seriously though, no society can function with a population of all middle-class, degreed people. How fucking boring would that be? Diversity is essential to the functioning of any society. The solution is not more education for everyone, the solution is a living wage. A real living wage, so people don't feel so desparate that they hold up the 7-11 so they can feed their kids, or to buy drugs to anethesize their constant worry and pain.

Go back to college and take some sociology courses. Short of that, educate yourself on the truth of why poverty exists, and the necessity of poverty to the wealthy powers that be.
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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2007, 11:42:34 PM »
the who, sure it's a choice. but it's a choice not everyone is free to make. sometimes your path in life is chosen for you, and you cant do jack shit about it.


even for the college educated, there are fewer and fewer choices. things are getting competetive. for starters, it's much harder for college kids to find jobs to pay tuition and survive. it used to be that many menial jobs like landscaping or deliveries were taken by college kids, who would get paid a decent wage for their work. now, employers hire mostly mexicans who get paid half as much. so kids need to find jobs doing other shit..they move into cities. they get internships and work as office bitches. and then they end up (even with a college degree) working at merril or chuck schwab, or some other lame firm, where they get paid 40g/year and never get promoted. by the time they buy houses and get kids, the college educated urbanites working on wall street are all deep in debt and essentially living an equal quality of life as farmer joe in alabama. College is not how you get ahead. you get ahead by being clever and creative at fucking the system. as you may well know, not everyone can be clever and creative. after all, thewho, you do make your living being "clever and creative and fucking the system".

also, as time goes on it gets harder and harder for people to make a decent living doing the same thing they've been doing for years. i dont remember where i read it, but i remember reading somehwere that a college degree now is worth as much as a highschool diploma 25 years ago, and that soon enough people are going to have to get master's and phd's to get to the same socioeconomic level as people with college degrees now. couple that with immigration/outsourcing, inflation, and economic recession, it's going to be tough for middle class americans to continue living the way they are.


case in point: Flint Michigan. thousands of SKILLED autoworkers put into poverty because some schmuck wanted to cut costs. sure, most people moved, but wheather they were ever able to attain that level of income again is questionable, and the people who stayed (because they simply had nowhere else to go - how do you move if you have no job, cant get a job, and are broke?) they ended up living in some of the worst conditions in america. need i say more?

or take something a little more modern - dell customer service. it used to be that americans were the people working the lines, and there were quite a few neighborhoods in america who's economy depended almost entirely on customer service and telemarketing operations. when dell and all the other companies outsourced their labor to india, all those neighborhoods fell apart. the sheniqua latifa jacksons that used to make an honest living working the telephone, are now all on wellfare or selling crack to feed their kids.
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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2007, 09:34:11 AM »
Its important to have all the social classes, I agree, but they should be somewhat educated also.  Many of the people on welfare choose to be there either thru ignorance or just choice.  Many are 2nd and 3rd generation welfare families having babies to increase their monthly check, trying to get classified as section 8 to better their housing etc..  If we could get them a better education it would be a huge step on helping the ones who don’t want to be there to get out and give them more options.

If everyone one had a college education the people would make better choices with their money.  They would put a little away each month for retirement, rainy day.  They would make better informed purchases….. I had the opportunity to tour an inner city public school a few years back and I (as well as others I was with) was amazed at the stuff these kids had.  Top of the line cell phones, clothes, $200 sneakers, gold jewelry etc.  The middle class kids don’t have half this stuff.  If the parents were educated to buy lower end products they could squirrel away more in a Roth or 401k program, save for better housing, send their kids to a better school, read to them vs. buying them an xbox etc….it all starts with education.

As I think you mentioned todays college degree is equivalent to a high school degree 30 years ago.
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« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2007, 09:39:10 AM »
Wait, wait.  What?  So, its MY fault?  Who says I live or work in an unsafe neighborhood?  Shit, there's two retired judges who have offices here and I've never heard of even so much as a prowler where I've lived for the past 10 years.  I'm perfectly happy where I am.  

What an asshole.




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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2007, 09:48:21 AM »
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Wait, wait.  What?  So, its MY fault?  Who says I live or work in an unsafe neighborhood?  Shit, there's two retired judges who have offices here and I've never heard of even so much as a prowler where I've lived for the past 10 years.  I'm perfectly happy where I am.  

What an asshole.




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No one is blaming you for anything,Anne, what we were talking about is choices.  People can choose to live and work where they want.  There are many people who dont care where they live, they carry a gun to feel safe and even teach their own kids how to shoot, Ha,Ha,Ha, as nutty as that sounds.
I was just expressing my view that personally I would choose to locate my family to a safe area rather than teach my wife and kids how to use machetes and keep hand guns hidden under the couch.



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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2007, 09:51:27 AM »
Guess you'd better get packing then.  As the thread title says, there's nuts everywhere.  Even in some of the most upscale buildings and neighborhoods.  Even behind gated communities.  Even disguising themselves as therapists and counselors with parents paying thousands upon thousands for 'help' for their kid.

You are some piece of work.
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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2007, 09:55:42 AM »
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Guess you'd better get packing then.  As the thread title says, there's nuts everywhere.  Even in some of the most upscale buildings and neighborhoods.  Even behind gated communities.  Even disguising themselves as therapists and counselors with parents paying thousands upon thousands for 'help' for their kid.

You are some piece of work.
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Exactly!!  and if you feel safe in this environment and it is a good fit for your family then you should drive a stake in the ground and stay.  There are nuts everywhere, I live and work with them everyday.  But if I ever felt my family was in danger or unsafe I would relocate, that’s all.  Ha,Ha,Ha,  that’s funny Anne...but good point!!



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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2007, 09:57:57 AM »
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You  people just amaze me.  Dont allow other people to change who you are or make you feel unsafe.  Why put up with all that crap?  Why live that way?  You should move to a better neighborhood / get a different job and be done with it.



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This was your response to my post.
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2007, 10:00:05 AM »
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Quote from: ""TheWho""
You  people just amaze me.  Dont allow other people to change who you are or make you feel unsafe.  Why put up with all that crap?  Why live that way?  You should move to a better neighborhood / get a different job and be done with it.



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This was your response to my post.


Yes, thats what I would do.
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2007, 10:03:46 AM »
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Quote from: ""TheWho""
You  people just amaze me.  Dont allow other people to change who you are or make you feel unsafe.  Why put up with all that crap?  Why live that way?  You should move to a better neighborhood / get a different job and be done with it.



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This was your response to my post.

Yes, thats what I would do.



Telling me to "move to a better neighborhood"??  What do you know of the neighborhood where I live?
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2007, 10:07:27 AM »
No wonder Who's kid got sent away. He's honestly expecting to feel safe all the time?  He's honestly going to run away from 'unsafe' places?  Where are these 'safe' places he thinks he'll run to?  Has anyone found a 'safe place' yet??  Hell, Who.  Clue us in!!
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