Medical Neglect Knows No Boundaries

[Anonymous]

Oh please, Fornits is a discussion board - not a parent support group or advocacy organization.

It's a damn good place to get information, breaking news and occasionally, engage in heated debates with bozos like The Who.  

Fornits will be here long after the jackels, weenies and imposters run off with their tails between their legs.

Fornits is a SURVIVOR.

[Anonymous]

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quote="Guest"]That statement is not true. Only a couple posters are here for that serious of reasons. The rest , like TheWho, are here to troll abuse victims, parents with deceased children, and any other emotionally suffering individual they can sink their claws into long enough to suck some entertainment from them. Fornits is a sick place for people to psychologically rapep each other, not a place for serious advocacy. Pitbull start a new forum and people will follow. You are a natural leader!

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IZZY, don't you have a little do-nothing coaching business to be running?

[Pitbull Mom]

Oh please, Fornits is a discussion board - not a parent support group or advocacy organization.

It's a damn good place to get information, breaking news and occasionally, engage in heated debates with bozos like The Who.  

Fornits will be here long after the jackels, weenies and imposters run off with their tails between their legs.

Fornits is a SURVIVOR.

Well, I don't see all that many real survivors here, mostly trolls, and what I'm guessing are some disillusioned former program staff.  I'm starting to doubt the value of fornits even as a discussion board, it seems more to be more of a cult-like "my way or the highway" forum, or "I'm entitled to my opionion, if you don't like it, then STFU".

This thread ended  up, like so many others, starting out as a good discussion about a death in Jan of this year that should have been headline news, with many comments about medications that have some useful value, and accountability for providing a certain level of care, but it ends up with so called survivors slinging insults at parents who are trying to make a difference.  For those who really want to get their message out there, and have the general public take them seriously, or maybe be a witness in a future hearing or investigation, you need to clean up your act a whole lot before you will be taken seriously.

[Anonymous]

you need to clean up your act a whole lot before you will be taken seriously.

We've heard this so many times and it's always bullshit.

The brutality of Fornits has increased precipitously within the last couple of years. Alongside this increase has also come a substantial amount of positive action: The GAO hearings, the guilty verdicts of Randall Hinton and that Wellspring fuckhead, the 2005 closing of CEDU, and a single program owner recently bitching about fifty kids a month vanishing due to "negative internet publicity".

Assuming that the two have any correlation whatsoever, the logical thing for us to do is become nastier and less forgiving.

[Anonymous]

Oh please, Fornits is a discussion board - not a parent support group or advocacy organization.

It's a damn good place to get information, breaking news and occasionally, engage in heated debates with bozos like The Who.  

Fornits will be here long after the jackels, weenies and imposters run off with their tails between their legs.

Fornits is a SURVIVOR.

Well, I don't see all that many real survivors here, mostly trolls, and what I'm guessing are some disillusioned former program staff.  I'm starting to doubt the value of fornits even as a discussion board, it seems more to be more of a cult-like "my way or the highway" forum, or "I'm entitled to my opionion, if you don't like it, then STFU".

This thread ended  up, like so many others, starting out as a good discussion about a death in Jan of this year that should have been headline news, with many comments about medications that have some useful value, and accountability for providing a certain level of care, but it ends up with so called survivors slinging insults at parents who are trying to make a difference.  For those who really want to get their message out there, and have the general public take them seriously, or maybe be a witness in a future hearing or investigation, you need to clean up your act a whole lot before you will be taken seriously.

Your lectures only encourage the trolls and will not change their ways.

Visit CAFETY.org

[Anonymous]

you need to clean up your act a whole lot before you will be taken seriously.

We've heard this so many times and it's always bullshit.

The brutality of Fornits has increased precipitously within the last couple of years. Alongside this increase has also come a substantial amount of positive action: The GAO hearings, the guilty verdicts of Randall Hinton and that Wellspring fuckhead, the 2005 closing of CEDU, and a single program owner recently bitching about fifty kids a month vanishing due to "negative internet publicity".

Assuming that the two have any correlation whatsoever, the logical thing for us to do is become nastier and less forgiving.

What a pathetic and ridiculous statement to make. This is why nobody takes this forum seriously.

Visit CAFETY.org

[Anonymous]

Visit CAFETY.org PLEASE!!! No one ever posts there anymore after we started sucking "Judge Roybean"'s dick too loudly and all the real advocates GTFO. PLEASE give us meaning and relevance again! We'll DO ANYTHING!

Fixed.

[Anonymous]

You are only proving my point for me Guest. Pitbull Mom you are wasting your time posting on this forum, they will not listen to you.

They are probably collaborating behind the scenes on a way to publically humiliate you for not agreeing with their rhetoric, don't say you weren't warned.

[Anonymous]

And your own site proves my point. Don't let that doorknob split those ass cheeks, sunshine.

[Botched Programming]

Well, I don't see all that many real survivors here, mostly trolls, and what I'm guessing are some disillusioned former program staff.  I'm starting to doubt the value of fornits even as a discussion board, it seems more to be more of a cult-like "my way or the highway" forum, or "I'm entitled to my opionion, if you don't like it, then STFU".

This thread ended  up, like so many others, starting out as a good discussion about a death in Jan of this year that should have been headline news, with many comments about medications that have some useful value, and accountability for providing a certain level of care, but it ends up with so called survivors slinging insults at parents who are trying to make a difference.  For those who really want to get their message out there, and have the general public take them seriously, or maybe be a witness in a future hearing or investigation, you need to clean up your act a whole lot before you will be taken seriously.

I can honestly say that much of the things said here is "Rampant Talking Out In Group."[/color] I hope that this may clear up a few things. Speaking for myself only.

While I was held prisoner at an abusive teen treatment center "Straight Inc" all the kids were forced to be humble or be humilated. When we thought something was bullshit we were not allowed to speak up about it due to fear of reprise. Over the years I have learned it's ok to call bullshit. And that's what I feel many of us feel we are doing. Is it wrong......No ..... Is it right..... No..... But that is what we do.

When it comes to defenders of programs who come in and spew their propaganda, ( We all know who I am referring to ) we retaliate as they stand for everything we do not. Sometimes people get caught in the crossfire. And it sometimes is hard to determine what side of the line people stand on. There are a few of us that there is no doubt about where we stand. ( Program Supporter or Program Terrorist ). We all must make the decision where we stand and who we stand with.

[Anonymous]

Froderik gets upset when you insult the one and only thing going on in his life. The truth hurts.

Hello, pot.

[Che Gookin]

Even kids at Three Springs had their med changes approved by their parents. So it is my belief that the meds were not administered in a forcible manner and that the parents had full knowledge of their daughter's med intake.

The object lesson here is did the parents think to ever question the doctor's suggestions?

They bloody well should of...


Froddy: Went scuba diving with a couple of limeys last week. They regaled me with tales of boozing, mongering, and other degeneracy in a delightful argot that for the most part left me unsure exactly what they were saying. Gobshite is one of the quaint litle britishisms I picked up.

I can't speak for other parents, but I questioned every drug I ever authorized my son to take. All medication changes were discussed between all of us, my son, his doc, and me. I didn't use quack docs, and they always explained fully the side effects and anything serious to watch for, monitored weight changes and labs for proper dosages, etc.  Any parent who makes the difficult decision to put their child on mind altereing drugs had better be doing a lot of research on their own, and not just relying on what the doc says, or the prescription information that accompanies every RX by law. Many many medications being prescribed to kids have not been tested thoroughly on kids, so parents had better be paying attention, especially if they are not using a board certified child psychiatrist.

My son also googled meds he was on, and asked good questions. You can't force a 14 year old to take meds.

There are numerous good websites, other than the vendor's website where parents can get drug information, and also good drug interaction sites to check for interactions specific to all of the meds, vitamins and herbs being taken together, as well as any alcohol or self administered drugs kids might be taking.

Can't argue with this post at all. Very good parenting on your part PB Mom. Perhaps given time you will come to realize that my disdain towards parents doesn't automatically extend to you.

But wait... I was a shitty mom, let me eat my gun now.

If I'm not mistaken manipulation via guilt is a tactic utilized by cults. Maybe you can set yourself up as the living leader of the Fornits Association of Parents cult?

I can think of a half a dozen secret ceremonies for you all ranging from the circle jerk to a bloody tampon eating contest.

[Anonymous]

You are only proving my point for me Guest. Pitbull Mom you are wasting your time posting on this forum, they will not listen to you.

They are probably collaborating behind the scenes on a way to publically humiliate you for not agreeing with their rhetoric, don't say you weren't warned.

 :cry2:  :cry2:  :cry2:

[Anonymous]

I initally made the mistake of thinking you all were actually advocating for something good to come about.

Every poster here made that same mistake. Some get sucked in anyways, and begin to take out their anger and dissapointment on new posters, and the cycle continues. It's a self-supporting phenomenon at this point, that uses people's souls as it's fuel. Many have tried to change it for the better, all have failed. Start your own forum, because fornits will never be what you want it to be.

God, what a bunch of over-dramatized horseshit! "Uses people's souls as fuel"....puh-leeze! Cunt-bag!!! I wish there were still admins around to bust out whiny bitches like this poster.... pffft!!

*Sigh* Oh well... pussies! ::fu::

[Anonymous]

"Uses people's souls as fuel"

I've tried this, but Ponzi schemes never work.