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How TheWho is making it look like mods are editing his posts
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2007, 12:28:05 AM »
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It's not a matter of speed, it's a matter of opening the window. I think. It worked in the Web Development forum where I tried it.

It's not a matter of speed[/color].  see here:
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=290448#290448

I know that since I looked it up in the PhpBB manual.


Look.  The Who actually presented pretty solid evidence that posts were modified.  He would have had to immediately modify his post after posting it knowing full well at the time that somebody would quote him and be writing a reply before he hit submit (for the edit).  That is highly unlikely (however not impossible).  From a techincal standpoint, TheWho actually has a point.  Only admins could have edited his posts without leaving an edit stamp after somebody else (anne bonnie in this case) quoted him. (unless, he wrote "i am an industry whore" immediately after posting but before anne hit submit.).  He would have had to know that somebody would have quoted and replied to him.

You think it's easy?  Try and do it yourself?  I challenge anybody to successfully edit a post without a trail (and get a different post quoted).  The only way I can see of to do it is to wait for people to be online that would respond to you with a fairly long post, then submit your edit after they hit quote but before they hit submit on their reply.  One problem is that you don't know when the other person is typing so it would be crapshoot and the edited version might get quoted (but you could hypothetically claim the quoted version was altered).  I don't see many posts like that around and unless TheWho got it right on the first time i'd have to say it does look like an admin edit from a purely technical standpoint.

I'm probably going to a lot of get shit for this, but from a purely techincal standpoint, it looks like the Who is right... we won't really ever know for sure.  The Who does actually have a valid point about staff feeling safe enough to post here (especially with insider info).  If an admin did do this it's all the more reason to move to SMF asap.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2007, 12:33:27 AM »
not impossible though.. remember people post like mad all over this forum when things get moving.

Impossible.. no..


still interesting..

either way I don't give a rat's ass. if someone is doing it then it will show up in the database.
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2007, 12:35:31 AM »
Actually, I really don't think it's that difficult. I think that it's just a matter of posting the original, then clicking edit and keeping the window open till someone quotes you then submitting the edit.


Wanna test it? Psy, quote this and I'll see if I can do it.

Rachael is an industry whore :D
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2007, 12:37:55 AM »
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Actually, I really don't think it's that difficult. I think that it's just a matter of posting the original, then clicking edit and keeping the window open till someone quotes you then submitting the edit.


Wanna test it? Psy, quote this and I'll see if I can do it.


ok do it.
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2007, 12:39:29 AM »
Nevermind.... maybe he does have a point. But I'll keep experimenting.
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2007, 12:41:44 AM »
This thread is serious business.
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2007, 12:43:51 AM »
lols.. time to change forums then.


I still think it is possible you just have to be fast and lucky about it.

who knows though.. the who has managed to piss off enough people around here..

anyway we can check the database I'd like to know myself.
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2007, 12:47:39 AM »
If TheWho doesn't feel comfortable posting here then he can just stop posting here.

That's also an option, you know.
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2007, 12:48:59 AM »
Quote from: ""Crash Test Dummy""
lols.. time to change forums then.


I still think it is possible you just have to be fast and lucky about it.

who knows though.. the who has managed to piss off enough people around here..

anyway we can check the database I'd like to know myself.


Yeah it can be done:
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=23754

Try it yourself. It just appears to be a shot in the dark, and you would be risking the edit trail ratting you out.

But at the same time, why the fuck would an admin do something so small and obvious. Something just doesn't fit....
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2007, 12:51:56 AM »
I did it!!

 I am theWho's daughter.

 When he was bent over sucking his own cock, I quickly typed a sentence over his head.

 He said he likes the way my hair smells.

If you're wondering, yes, he swallows.
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2007, 01:03:53 AM »
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This thread is serious business.

no shit dude  :wink:
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2007, 01:27:24 AM »
I'm game,

I will post this and immediately hit the edit button. I will then open another tab and quote myself. I'll wait 30min then apply the edits in the other window to see if the stamp is there.


Ok so I waited 10 mins
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2007, 01:28:19 AM »
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I'm game,

I will post this and immediately hit the edit button. I will then open another tab and quote myself. I'll wait 30min then apply the edits in the other window to see if the stamp is there.


Let's see
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2007, 01:40:03 AM »
Nope didn't survive 10mins, but I have another idea

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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2007, 01:50:40 AM »
Nope didn't survive 10mins, but I have another idea

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Edit stamp test

Nope it just made a duplicate post
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

Howto]