CCM CUNT SEDUCES MALE STAFF AND LAUGHS?

[Joseph W. Gauld]

Well if he is related to you, it would figure.

Now, that's not very nice. I do believe that substance abuse runs in peoples family. We all have to be careful. I've had 3 people in my family become addicts of one kind or another. 2 outta the 3 pulled out of it, and cleaned up. 1 unfortunately died from the years of abuse, the other is doing extremely well, and the last one...well, we shall see he is due to turn himself in to treatment November 1st.

No, that's not very nice.  We were always very hard drinkers in my family, and I don't think its very funny when people joke about my kids being a bit on the short end of the logical thinking stick, just cause Blanche never did stop.  Course that excuse -- that she never did stop -- did come in handy when I decided to develop some of my favorite gals' unique potential in new and experimental ways, har har!!

Speaking of unique potential, why don't you come over here and park that nice fanny on my lap, CCM girly girl, har har... I've still got a few things I can teach a festy lil whipper snapper such as yourself, heh heh heh!!

Philosophically,
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator

[Anne Bonney]

CCM girl 1989

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Joined: 14 Oct 2005
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 Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject:    

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A little history on me.........I was first sent away at the age of 12. I'll never forget the date 1-16-86. I was the youngest girl at the school. My first placement was called Heritage School for girls, located in Provo, Utah. Anyway, I was only supposed to be there for 1 year. 1 year came, and went.....I lost my only brother 6 months after I got there in a freak drowning accident. That was my first homevisit, was attending his funeral. I didn't go on many homevisits, 2-3 a year. I never got in any trouble when I went home, I did everything I could to prove to my parents I would be the perfect daughter, it didn't work. They were happy to have me gone, that way they could retire, and travel the world. Anyway, I went to my therapy sessions, and as time went on.......we all knew that I was going to be left to rot in these places till I turned 18 no matter how great I did. It was hard work to maintain the level system, to be perfect, to not get upset over my situation. I snapped after 3 years of this. I finally had the "fuck it attitude". I mean it didn't much matter if I were on S.S. (special status) or leval 4? I was determined to do whatever I wanted (like step outside onto the porch, you had to be on leval 2 for that!), to say whatever I wanted, to use the lords name in vain if I wanted. I just gave up, I tried to do the things the right way, and it didn't get me anywhere. I was angry, I was violent, I did things I know hurt people. I found out I was being shipped from one school to another, and I ran. I was gone for a week, and was captured to only have the one and only Karr Farnworth there to pick me up and take me to Cross Creek Manor, where I endured even more abuse. I spent almost a year there, before I ran from there too. This time for good, I never went back. That's it, just wanted you to know a little more about me.
 

CCM Girl ran from her final program at age 16. Age 16 is not the age of consent; and no mid-teen-age-girl can give "consent" to sexual activity with a staff member who has total legal control and power over her. Such sexual engagment is legally and morally wrong, even if the girl say "she liked it."
The negative posts to CCM Girl seem to have been made to her flipplant rermark; not to her situation.

^^^^^^^^

What they said.

[CCM girl 1989]

While, I am sure I wrote that (or most of it). I don't know why I would have put at the end, where I endured even more abuse (Heritage was not abusive, survival yes, Orem Psych Hospital no)? I'm not sure I would consider my stay at CCM abusive? I think it was more emotional then anything. I did say a male houseparent dragged me into the common area in front of everyone by my legs, and took me by my ankles, hoisted me up like a Marlin fish, and started kicking me. I can't remember if it's because I called his wife a bitch, or I spit in her face, I really can't remember?

He was terminated immediately, along with his wife.

There was a male houseparent that was found to be touching me, and he was immediately fired too, along with his wife.

So, it's not like they just sat back, and let children be abused?

[Anne Bonney]

While, I am sure I wrote that (or most of it). I don't know why I would have put at the end, where I endured even more abuse (Heritage was not abusive, survival yes, Orem Psych Hospital no)? I'm not sure I would consider my stay at CCM abusive? I think it was more emotional then anything. I did say a male houseparent dragged me into the common area in front of everyone by my legs, and took me by my ankles, hoisted me up like a Marlin fish, and started kicking me. I can't remember if it's because I called his wife a bitch, or I spit in her face, I really can't remember?

He was terminated immediately, along with his wife.

There was a male houseparent that was found to be touching me, and he was immediately fired too, along with his wife.

So, it's not like they just sat back, and let children be abused?

Nah, they just created the environment where it was bound to happen.  

Stanford Prison Experiment.

http://www.prisonexp.org/




Forced or coerced treatment IS abusive.  Its an invasion of the mind, body and soul.  And giving anyone that much power and control over kids is dangerous.   There's no getting around or justifying or explaining that away.

[Anonymous]

CCM girl 1989
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CCM Girl's flippant remark about sexual abuse in programs.

[Anne Bonney]

CCM girl 1989
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CCM Girl's flippant remark about sexual abuse in programs.

That's the one that got to me, especially in the context of the conversation.  Of course I'm aware that not all sexual experiences inside program are abusive, but sex between staff and student, no matter how hot he is or how much she wants it too is wrong.  Its abuse of power.  Some people were horribly scarred by the sexual abuse they endured inside and for that comment to come out right on the heels of those people was..... insensitive to say the least.

[Anne Bonney]

While, I am sure I wrote that (or most of it). I don't know why I would have put at the end, where I endured even more abuse (Heritage was not abusive, survival yes, Orem Psych Hospital no)? I'm not sure I would consider my stay at CCM abusive? I think it was more emotional then anything. I did say a male houseparent dragged me into the common area in front of everyone by my legs, and took me by my ankles, hoisted me up like a Marlin fish, and started kicking me. I can't remember if it's because I called his wife a bitch, or I spit in her face, I really can't remember?

He was terminated immediately, along with his wife.

There was a male houseparent that was found to be touching me, and he was immediately fired too, along with his wife.

So, it's not like they just sat back, and let children be abused?

Nah, they just created the environment where it was bound to happen.  

Stanford Prison Experiment.

http://www.prisonexp.org/




Forced or coerced treatment IS abusive.  Its an invasion of the mind, body and soul.  And giving anyone that much power and control over kids is dangerous.   There's no getting around or justifying or explaining that away.

I started reading around the Stanford site a little more. I haven't read it in a while.  Very interesting stuff, especially The Lucifer Effect.


http://www.lucifereffect.com/

[Anonymous]

I started reading around the Stanford site a little more. I haven't read it in a while. Very interesting stuff, especially The Lucifer Effect.


http://www.lucifereffect.com/

How about the Milgrim experiments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment) & all the fascist thinking they spawned - the supposed changes in personality - there was also an experiment involving prisoners called the Stanford prison experiment - pretty chilling -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

CCM girl just sounds disturbed in alot of ways, not because she's so pro-program but because she's indifferent to the suffering of the others. Someone who is not indifferent like her, is not on a quasi-crusade to show the "good" programs. But the fact is she's oblivious to the bad ones and basically on a mission to preach 'the truth" definitely shows something about her intentions here. She's not here as a supporter, but as a diametric opposer.

& the sexual comments are so off-base I really have to wonder about her. The power differential between staff and client are so enormously different, I would hardly say it was consensual in any sense of the word. From those statements alone, I'd say she's twisted or entirely oblivious to the didactics of being an inmate.

In other words, she's prolly a real twat.

[CCM girl 1989]

Try signing in next time.

[TheWho]

I started reading around the Stanford site a little more. I haven't read it in a while. Very interesting stuff, especially The Lucifer Effect.


http://www.lucifereffect.com/

How about the Milgrim experiments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment) & all the fascist thinking they spawned - the supposed changes in personality - there was also an experiment involving prisoners called the Stanford prison experiment - pretty chilling -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

CCM girl just sounds disturbed in alot of ways, not because she's so pro-program but because she's indifferent to the suffering of the others. Someone who is not indifferent like her, is not on a quasi-crusade to show the "good" programs. But the fact is she's oblivious to the bad ones and basically on a mission to preach 'the truth" definitely shows something about her intentions here. She's not here as a supporter, but as a diametric opposer.

& the sexual comments are so off-base I really have to wonder about her. The power differential between staff and client are so enormously different, I would hardly say it was consensual in any sense of the word. From those statements alone, I'd say she's twisted or entirely oblivious to the didactics of being an inmate.

In other words, she's prolly a real twat.

Why do you have to judge people at all?  I have read the posts and there is no crusade to show good programs.  This girl is giving her side of it and how she lived it.  There are people who tell of their bad experiences, should we judge them just as harshly and say they are oblivious to the "Good" ones?

[Anne Bonney]

I started reading around the Stanford site a little more. I haven't read it in a while. Very interesting stuff, especially The Lucifer Effect.


http://www.lucifereffect.com/

How about the Milgrim experiments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment) & all the fascist thinking they spawned - the supposed changes in personality - there was also an experiment involving prisoners called the Stanford prison experiment - pretty chilling -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment  

Yeah, I think I linked to Stanford above.  Ah well, here it is again....

http://www.prisonexp.org/

CCM girl just sounds disturbed in alot of ways, not because she's so pro-program but because she's indifferent to the suffering of the others. Someone who is not indifferent like her, is not on a quasi-crusade to show the "good" programs. But the fact is she's oblivious to the bad ones and basically on a mission to preach 'the truth" definitely shows something about her intentions here. She's not here as a supporter, but as a diametric opposer.

I just think she's still a bit washed.  No real mystery.

. The power differential between staff and client are so enormously different, I would hardly say it was consensual in any sense of the word.

Yep

[Anonymous]

Why do you have to judge people at all? I have read the posts and there is no crusade to show good programs. This girl is giving her side of it and how she lived it. There are people who tell of their bad experiences, should we judge them just as harshly and say they are oblivious to the "Good" ones?

Try signing in next time.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, Anne - I didn't see your link - as you said once before, same shit - different wrapper.

I think that is my problem, the idea (the very warped idea) of sex between staff and client. OK, it's not a "rape" in the purest sense of the word, but you are freaking being held against your will and not free to leave in most cases, so how the hell can you consent to sex? That's what child molesters say, well, little susie said she wanted to, so she consented. Even if you were the legal age of consent, it still would not be consensual for the same reasons prison wardens can't have sex with the inmates. This is not even a debate. It's common sense, which CCM appears to have very little of.

I don't need to sign in - why does it bother you so much I'm anonymous - so you can't flame me personally? Hmmmmm.

[TheWho]

Why do you have to judge people at all? I have read the posts and there is no crusade to show good programs. This girl is giving her side of it and how she lived it. There are people who tell of their bad experiences, should we judge them just as harshly and say they are oblivious to the "Good" ones?

Try signing in next time.

If I do will you stop judging people?.

I'll think about it.

[Botched Programming]

From: CCM girl 1989
To: Botched Programming
Posted: 30 Oct 2007 18:19
Subject: Thanks!  

I don't appreciate you getting into my account. Don't you have anything better to do?

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