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« on: October 17, 2007, 11:56:41 AM »
This is a quote taken directly from an Alumni newsletter posted on AARC's own website.  It is the opening of a message to former clients and parents.  
"The unity of AARCis the most cherished quality of our organization.
...Without unity, the heart of aARC would cease to beat and our message would no longer carry the life-giving message of hope..."
I am at aloss to understand the meaning of these statements.  It does seem to me that Vause deems it fairly important to maintain the ties of parents and former clients to AARC.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2007, 01:42:41 PM »
Can't you see that by them keeping parents and former graduates close at hand they still have control of the cash. It's not about the love...... It's all about the money!!!!!!!!!![/color]



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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2007, 03:45:36 PM »
$150-$160 per day per kid.  AARC now holds over thirty clients at a time.  $4500 minimum per day rolls in.  To provide lunch, pay the utilities, and pay the wages of the amateur counselling staff, the accountant, the fundraising co-ordinator, and the nurse.  This does not include the masses of cash piled up as part of their expansion campaign.
The average wage for a registered social-worker in Alberta is $48700 per year, with the maximum pegged at $105500.  For the sake of argument, I will assume that all of the staff at AARC earn the maximum.  With Vause, Luciano, Imbach, Campbell, Brown and Anderson, that makes six, although none are registered.  Together that makes a total of $633000.
The average salary for a nurse is $48700, with the maximum $61800.  If we allow the maximum for AARC, that brings total wages to $694800.
The average accountant in Alberta earns $50600 a year.  The maximum reported is $194 200.  If we allow the maximum for AARC, the total wages paid out is $889000As one would expect from a treatment facility, AARC employs an "Event Coordinator".  In Alberta the average wage for this job is $34900 per year, with a maximum salary of $74 000.  As always, we will assume the highest amount for AARC.  This brings the total wages to 963000.
 And, like any good treatment centre, AARC employs a fund manager.  A financial planner in Alberta earns an average of $74600 a year with a maximum of $145000.  Allowing the maximum for AARC, that puts total wages at $1108000.
A chef in Alberta averages $31 000 per year with a maximum salary of $109 000.  If we assume that AARC's cook earns the maximum chef's salary, that brings total wages to $121700.
So wages for AARC's full-time staff, assuming that every single employee earns the maximum possible salary available in this province is $1217000.  As you can see, the accountant, fund manager, and event coordinator account for $413 000 of that sum.
The last total for operating costs of the centre that I saw was $1 500 000.  After paying the full-time employee salaries, that leaves $283 000 to pay the peer counsellors and utilities.  Assuming a utilities cost of $4000 per month, or $48 000 a year, that still leaves over $235000 to pay for peer counsellors.  
If we allow the average food cost per capita in Alberta per client, $1800 with 30 clients, that gives a cost of $54 000 for food.  AARC does not provide all meals, as the children are fed in host homes, but it gives a plausible figure for food expenses.  That leaves $181000 to pay for the peer counsellors and incidentals.  Allowing a figure of $100 000 for peer counsellors, we still have $81 000 left.
Over fifteen years of operation, that is a substantial sum.
As AARC takes in an indeterminate amount of material and funds through various begging schemes, and as it is unlikely that the staff all earn the maximum possible salary for their postition available in the province, the slush is substantially higher.
So, the question remains: Where does the money go?
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Good question
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2007, 04:21:26 PM »
If AARC is registered as a charitable organization with the Federal Government as indicated on its web-site, then it has a number. It is required to report annually and may be audited at any time. If there is anything red flagged then the Government would audit the organization and it could lose its status as a charitable organization. I do not see mention of a "not for profit status" on the Web-site and I am not sure if Charitable and Not for Profit are interchangeable.  Complaints could be sent to the Federal Government if there is any suspicion of their misuse of funds.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/azindex/menu-e.html
This might be a good way of starting a general investigation into all of their practices.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2007, 05:27:10 PM »
Please, these people on here have a zillion ways to complain and bring their accusations public, but they don't.  They just type on here.  Hide behind false names and type to each other.  blah blah blah.  I have been encouraging them to go public for ages.  I mean if there was a case, half as juicy as they claim with all their poor me's (and ajax is really just speaking out of his ass, as he's never been there) and fake id's they claim people get by on then it would be shut down.  If it were so easy to run business of the nature they claim, then more people, more 'frauds' would be doing it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2007, 06:48:30 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Please, these people on here have a zillion ways to complain and bring their accusations public, but they don't.  They just type on here.  Hide behind false names and type to each other.  blah blah blah.  I have been encouraging them to go public for ages.  I mean if there was a case, half as juicy as they claim with all their poor me's (and ajax is really just speaking out of his ass, as he's never been there) and fake id's they claim people get by on then it would be shut down.  If it were so easy to run business of the nature they claim, then more people, more 'frauds' would be doing it.

Ooh really, I thnk that Ajax is onto something --- and I was really pleased to see the previous post.
Now, "Response"  could be somebody with connections who is so confident that AARC is ok, or is, on the other hand trying to point out an avenue for investigation that Ajax hadn't thought of.  

I recently came back to view this site after  being away for a couple of years.   Upon doing so I have had confirmation of 5 additional cases:
Two from a Northern town, one of whom has expressed concern to me directly;
One from Edmonton who, it has been related to me, is contemplating a law suit but is so traumatised and terrified that she'd  like to move on and forget about the pain
One from Calgary who is in therapy for PTSD.  
Another from Calgary who upon having sober second thoughts is berated by a Provincial Court Judge.

Another from Saskatchewan whose son is being held without contact.  

Only one of the above has been posting to this site, but they are beginning to come out of the woodwork, and from the above post it would seem to me that Vause could be beginning to have cause to exhibit symptoms of a generalized anxiety disorder.

At the same time, however, like every con, he must surely realise that he cannot keep judges, Benchers of the Law Society, the Chancellor of the University the Attorney General of the province Ron Stevens, and all those others convinced forever.  

The evidence is there.  All we need now is for one or more of the above to realize that they will not lose face by questioning the genuineness of Vause's "research"  and we may have Vause shut down quicker than he thinks.
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2007, 06:50:46 PM »
Actually that's six -- one I just became aware of last night
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2007, 08:59:58 PM »
There is actually no avenue right now to bring the accusations public.  My SLF has a friend from journalism school employed as a reporter in Calgary.  She has said in no uncertain terms that her paper will not follow up the AARC story.  My complaint to the Attorney General was immediately channelled to Paddy Meade of Health and Wellness, a public AARC supporter and link to AARC's attempted expansion to Ft. St. John.  I sent a complaint to the Service Ministry.  Their response to me was that they do not resolve internal disputes.  As I am not a member of the AARC Society, and was referring to the specific nature of AARC's operations violating the Societies Act, I am at a total loss to explain this.
I was in contact with another reporter at a Vancouver paper.  They will not touch this story either.  
CBC compromised themselves by airing the Nature of Things piece on Krystal Meade, so they will not respond either.
All of the local television stations in Calgary have aired AARC testimionials wherein a recent convert explains that they were on the verge of death until AARC saved them.
So my question is this?  What are the zillion (minus the ones I have mentioned) ways of bringing this public?
By the way, I've never been to Yankee Stadium, but I have a pretty good hunch that baseball is played there.
Anyhow, any AARC survivors who happen to come across this post, think Residential Schools.  If you ever decide to have the crimes of AARC aired in our courts, perhaps a chat with the people who have represented the survivors of the Residental atrocities would be of help.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2007, 09:08:40 AM »
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There is actually no avenue right now to bring the accusations public.  My SLF has a friend from journalism school employed as a reporter in Calgary.  She has said in no uncertain terms that her paper will not follow up the AARC story.  My complaint to the Attorney General was immediately channelled to Paddy Meade of Health and Wellness, a public AARC supporter and link to AARC's attempted expansion to Ft. St. John.  I sent a complaint to the Service Ministry.  Their response to me was that they do not resolve internal disputes.  As I am not a member of the AARC Society, and was referring to the specific nature of AARC's operations violating the Societies Act, I am at a total loss to explain this.
I was in contact with another reporter at a Vancouver paper.  They will not touch this story either.  
CBC compromised themselves by airing the Nature of Things piece on Krystal Meade, so they will not respond either.
All of the local television stations in Calgary have aired AARC testimionials wherein a recent convert explains that they were on the verge of death until AARC saved them.
So my question is this?  What are the zillion (minus the ones I have mentioned) ways of bringing this public?
By the way, I've never been to Yankee Stadium, but I have a pretty good hunch that baseball is played there.
Anyhow, any AARC survivors who happen to come across this post, think Residential Schools.  If you ever decide to have the crimes of AARC aired in our courts, perhaps a chat with the people who have represented the survivors of the Residental atrocities would be of help.


So why don't you print up some info leaflets and go protest outside the AARC building?
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2007, 11:34:36 AM »
That seems like a very stupid idea.  The parents going in and out of that building have already committed to pay $45 000 a year to a fraud to take their children off of their hands.  They are either going in  to participate in a psychologically destructive indoctrination session, or they are just coming out of one.  I think it highly unlikely that they would be receptive to receiving a flyer from a comlplete stranger that questions their decision, and in fact implicates them in a crime against their own child.  AARC has proven to operate with complete disdain for the law, and has used it's unearned reputation with the police before.  I'm not too keen to get arrested, nor do I want to deal with deranged AARC zealots.  Unless of course the idea is to get myself arrested, but I'm not too keen on that.  Perhaps that's just me.  Why don't you try it guest?
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2007, 12:03:06 PM »
Some people like jail.  In the past, a very strange person used to post on here, and he loved to tell everyone that he had been in prison.  He hadn't, but the idea seemed to hold real appeal for him.  He was really just a little boy who couldn't grow up.  In fact, when he was twenty-two, a stage in most men's lives when they are establishing themselves as independent actors in society, he checked himself into AARC.  I don't know if it was the appeal of hanging out with teenagers, or if he was just too terrified of adult life.  Anyhow, he really liked AARC, he seemed to really like the idea of being in jail, and he really liked to taunt people in this forum.
Just to clarify, I really don't want to get sent to jail.  Nor do I want to end up like Nicole Parisien after her run-in with an AARC miracle.  It's just not a good idea for anyone to go near the AARC building, under any circumstances.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2007, 05:51:43 PM »
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 Why don't you try it guest?


If I believed that AARC had hurt me or someone I loved, I would. You claim to be committed to stopping AARC - just not that committed. You talk tough, but I guess you aren't that tough. Sounds pretty chickenshit to me. I find it a stretch that you believe that if you show up with a bunch of people claimig to have been hurt by AARC that you will be injured some in some way. You have freedom of speech and freedom of assembly rights. I thought you wanted media coverage.
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2007, 05:55:36 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2007, 01:39:30 PM »
Guest, you never know what's being done behind the scenes.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2007, 05:25:31 PM »
No, guest is right.  In order to prove my manhood, I am going to go down and protest in front of AARC.  I think that should convince a psychopathic cult leader and his followers to stop defrauding people and violating the basic rights of hundred of adolescents. Even vicariously, I am able to benefit from the wisdom of the great Dodgeball Master.  Thank you for channelling him guest.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992