Heritage RTC in Provo

[mamala]

hi guest. actually i did thoroughly check this place out and continue to do so. someone i care about is there and except for the first 2 weeks i have been able to have open unmonitored telephone and off campus visits with her. it is just as silly to put a kid there as it is to go grab her back without completely checking into it. she doesn't even want to leave yet. she is making gains there. i am really spooked that they seem cultish regarding themselves and they are all, every single one of them, mormons. they had a play that was sponsored by them, staff is totally mormon and they had one parent followed around because she had complained. i heard another parent asking about the kid staying there in utah after graduation and they are going to help by doing something they aren't supposed to do. i have also caught them in lies but thats the suits. it is like a private mormon school and that is spooky. also, i think they should be told not to have the kids write all day but who should i report that to. if they are all mormons and i read that the utah state person that checks out complaints is also a biggie with mormons won't do anything.

i read an article in the mormon newspaper about skyrocketing child abuse in utah and that since 70% of the people there are mormons some of it must be happening with them and all they wanted to do about it was pray for them!!!! not call 911 or anything, just pray.

[TheWho]

Apparently, "Aspen helmet" is trade mark protected and I cant use it. Some people are pissed, which I could give a dam about, but I am forced to comply with the trade mark/copyright laws... but it was fun.

[Anonymous]

Actually this is really sad.  It appears she's  become institutionalized.  Think about it.  3 1/2 years at Heritage and then how many at CCM?
 

[Anonymous]

CCM, here is what we have been working on since we last spoke:

Just when I think you couldn't be any more repulsive.
 ::noway::  ::kma::

[mamala]

Who, that is absolutely hilarious. Aspen aka crc would do that except that it would interfere with them counting their money!

[Anonymous]

she doesn't even want to leave yet. she is making gains there.

Oh bullshit. You can't be stupid enough to believe that. Who's teling you that? How are these gains determined?

i am really spooked that they seem cultish regarding themselves and they are all, every single one of them, mormons.

staff is totally mormon and they had one parent followed around because she had complained.

also, i think they should be told not to have the kids write all day but who should i report that to.

Report that to?

REPORT THAT TO?!

You've insinuated that you're either the parent or very close to the parent.

When you see your daughter in the middle of a cult, you don't report it to anyone, at least not before you go and get your fucking daughter!! Jesus! This is one of those transcendental "what the fuck is wrong with you" moments. God only knows what they did to her in those first two weeks. God only knows what they're telling her now, probably along the lines of "if you don't make us look good, if your mom starts asking questions, we'll make it hard on you".

This isn't rocket science, mamala!

if they are all mormons and i read that the utah state person that checks out complaints is also a biggie with mormons won't do anything.

i read an article in the mormon newspaper about skyrocketing child abuse in utah and that since 70% of the people there are mormons some of it must be happening with them and all they wanted to do about it was pray for them!!!! not call 911 or anything, just pray.

Hi, welcome to reality.

But no, don't pay attention to the rest of us. Go on and play with TheWho and CCM Girl, while your daughter is in the middle of a cult. Let her read this thread, she'll understand perfectly.

[Anonymous]

Who, that is absolutely hilarious. Aspen aka crc would do that except that it would interfere with them counting their money!

Its revolting.  Especially coming from an Aspen shill like Who.

[CCM girl 1989]

"Yeah, real fucking funny. You having fun CCM girl?  God I hope so cuz you sure are making a lot of us sick."


It is funny to me only because you are barking up the wrong tree, and I clearly know this to be the case in regards to Heritage. Sometimes, you guys are unbelievable yourselves, and make me quite sick with all the lies you spew! Right now on this subject I am finding it to be a little irritating myself that you are telling numerous tall tales, and lies.

So, I am combating it with my own special sense of humor that I think is funny, and I know some of you others out there do too, don't lie!!! Anyway, trying to put Heritage in the same category as Straight, and WWASPS programs is complete nonsense. It's just wrong! Sorry, but Heritage is a good program that puts a lot of training into their staff, they have qualified therapists that you meet with mostly, and psychologists that we had access to if we thought, or felt we needed to be on medication. BTW, the majority of us that took medication did so willingly. We wanted to feel better. There could have been some cases (I cannot remember exactly) of kids with severe emotional problems that were told they had to take medication of some kind? Anyway, they don't care about the bottom dollar like a lot of these treatment facilities do. They put a great deal of money like I said before, into their program facilities, they have real teachers, and classrooms. I'm not going to repeat myself. Just believe what I say, and know that they are not like some of these other programs that are abusive, and are money grubbing whores.

[Anonymous]

they have qualified therapists that you meet with mostly, and psychologists that we had access to if we thought

the guy who is the psychiatrist and isn't really even a medical doctor and had had his license taken away. they just seem stupid and the right arm of the mormon church. there isn't a psychologist among them just a bunch of social workers and they aren't therapists, are they?.

[Anonymous]

Even if Heritage was like a resort, what possible purpose does it serve to allow parents to confine and abandon their child for 3 1/2 years? Is this supposed to help the child in some way?

[mamala]

guest, have you been there? have you spoken to anyone who has been there? have you spoken to anyone who is there? have you spoken to anyone who makes unannounced on site visits there?

i was looking for informed information not for someone to insult, bully and swear at me.

thank you for your input and we will give it the credit that it certainly deserves.

[CCM girl 1989]

Who, if you could see me right at this moment, my face is beet red with tears streaming down my face! That was so funny! Thank you!!! ::roflmao::

[Anonymous]

MAMALA = TROLL

Any quesses who this might be?
She sure knows her programs, doesn't she?

[Anonymous]

Actually, mamala, it was your own words that make it really obvious that this place isn't for anyone sane to put their kids.

YOU SAID: It's cultish.

YOU SAID: There are things going on there that you feel you have to "report" to someone.

YOU SAID: There aren't any licensed psychologists.

And even after those things that you know about- bright red flags, each of which is a damn good reason by itself to get your kid away from these people- you still feel that you should leave her there?

It doesn't matter how much money you already paid them, mamala. It doesn't matter how much you've emotionally invested. YOU SAID IT YOURSELF: Your daughter is in the middle of a cult, and you put her there.

[Anonymous]

MAMALA = TROLL

Any quesses who this might be?
She sure knows her programs, doesn't she?

I doubt it. It'd be one hell of a troll. What we have here is a very, very confused woman who knows very well what's wrong with the place, yes has too much at stake (pride? confidence? the need not to look weak?) not to get her daughter out.

The real funny thing is that CCM Girl has turned shill, and is saying things in direct contradiction of what mamala already knows. TheWho is just trying to derail like crazy, because this thread may end in someone being pulled out, and he couldn't possibly have that.