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Ursus:

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--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---There's a sucker born every minute, and the more unhappy the world gets, the more these suckers will flock to idealistic feel-good/feel-better solutions, usually at a table set up by some guru or another of personal development, slick fleecers extraordinaire.  

This type of business has been around a long time. At least the snake-oil just came in a bottle.  Now they want your kid and your family, 'till they empty your bank account.
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I'm stealing that, it's great.  I'll quote you properly though.
 :D
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Be my guest, I'm both flattered and honored!   ::bwahaha::

Ursus:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Student, faculty brat.  The place was my home and I loved it.  But it damn near ruined my family and my psychological health.  Both have been restored over time, thankfully.  Far from Hyde.

P.S.  Thanks for the writing compliment--public school education!
(Hyde's responible for the typos, certainly)
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Then you have a most interesting perspective, most steeped in Kool-Aide, but apparently not so anymore...  

I think one factor which might heavily affect someone in your shoes, is your parents' take on it.  Perhaps more specifically, your parents' respect for your autonomy, and whether they valued critical thinking over obedience.  I think that does very much affect any kid there, but perhaps faculty brats more so.  I'm rambling about theoreticals, I have no idea whether they apply in your case... I don't mean to presume...

I take it - "public school education" - that your parents left before your high school years?

Anonymous:

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I take it - "public school education" - that your parents left before your high school years?[/quote ---
No, during--I've looked at life from both sides now.

I think the dichotomy between our family ethics and what was happening at Hyde came into focus while I was there.  Funny what happens when Hyde becomes "personal" and not just theoretical (or "personal" for other people, as the case may be).  Our family ethic of critical thinking wasn't welcome at Hyde.  My parents weren't really ready to engage the Hyde process as parents. They were personally and professionally in conflict.  I just shut down and watched while things spun around me. The obedience/autonomy thing took a long time to figure out.

I watched the other "faculty brats"  with great interest, and still feel--something.  Discomfort, sympathy, jealousy sometimes.  Complicated.
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Ursus:
Some public schools are quite good.  I came from a solid public school background all my life, but when I got to Hyde, I felt like I had stepped back two years in some of my classes.  Not in all classes, depends who they had teaching, of course.  Some of the faculty were actually real live faculty who had got sucked into Hyde due to misplaced idealism.  Some, of course, were just former student ideologues, with or without college degrees, but certainly without experience.  Then also, at least in my time, the athletic coaches had to teach academics as well, and some of them, despite being experienced teachers of one sort of another, didn't know what the hell they were talking about as per the subject at hand, ha!

Did you have siblings?  Were they also involved in the "Hyde process?" Were both your parents involved (they usually had to be)?  When were you there?  
You can be super vague about that if you want, I'm just curious vis-a-vis a general historical perspective.  Former Hyde people are usually pretty protective of their anonymity.  The experience is usually so personally invasive for a lot us that we're afraid of them leeching into our souls again... Those heavy-handed moral judgments just don't want to die.
Let me ask you this, Guest:  do you think that you got involved with your studies of "bi-polar meglomaniacs" (be they professional or be they amateur, the latter being "for the love of knowing") due to your experience at Hyde, perhaps as a means of psychological survival?


--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---It's not just Joe Gauld, though he epitomizes it. It's the power to pass judgement on other's character and emotional development-- the total lack of humility, and the quashing of critique. It infects the staff and the group dynamic.
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This describes what I would call a cult, or an LGAT.  Some would say those two descriptives are the same thing.


--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Of all the lessons the school grabbed from other institutions (AA included)...
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I'd love to read an expansion of your thoughts on this.  I have my own ideas, of course; would enjoy comparing notes.

When you describe your feelings re. the other faculty brats... because of the conflict between your family and Hyde?  A sense of alienation from those other kids' lives at that time?

Anonymous:
I'll get back to you later, ursus . . .
digesting, reflecting----plus I'm on a work deadline!  This has been great procrastination :)  
Faculty brat

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