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Sexual assaults and inappropriate behavior by Hyde Staff
Anonymous:
:rofl: :rofl:
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Hydemom"" ---There were male and female staff in this meeting. My daughter told me it was the most humiliating thing she was ever forced to do. She was having trouble being in the same room as the creep teacher, (LD) who fondled her, so was looking the other way. Judy Fortier, a former Hyde Mom and staffer told her, "xxxxx, you need to look at LD when you talk to him." Ken Grant also told her that she needed to confront LD and let him know how uncomfortable he made her feel.
The fact that these misguided, ignoramus, mentally impaired fools who run Hyde School would think it is normal or therapuetic to put a child (victim) through this says it all!!
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Okay, from what I understand Hyde called this meeting, let's call it the "victim is expected to confront assailant" meeting, and from what I've read thus far plus other information which I will not go into, this is not exactly a meeting that the victim wanted, in fact, the victim has said "it was the most humiliating thing she was ever forced to do."
[li] Diddler Dubinsky, accused of sexual assault;[/li]
[li] Ken Grant, heavy honcho school official, doesn't want the school to be held liable, friend of Diddler and Diddler's wife;[/li]
[li] Judy Fortier, Hyde staff and sycophant, friend of Claire and Ken Grant, friend of Diddler and Diddler's wife, husband also used to work at Hyde but allegedly left "because of a pronounced proclivity to ogle undergrads;"[/li]
[li] unidentified male Hyde staff #1, Hyde apologist whether he wants to be or not;[/li]
[li] unidentified male Hyde staff #2, Hyde apologist whether he wants to be or not;[/li]
[li] perhaps others.[/li][/list]
[li] victim, underage, family is far away and has not been informed.[/li][/list]
Ummm... something seems a bit OFF about this picture. Two things rear up in my mind, other than the incredibly disparate blocks of personnel (just squint your eyes and look at that screen).
Why weren't the parents informed immediately when the original complaints were aired, not to mention by the time this meeting took place (from what I've heard, there was even a second meeting like the above before they deigned to get around to it)?
Why isn't there an advocate for this girl present, even an informal one, a teacher or confidante of her own choosing, preferable someone outside of the school with no hidden agenda?[/list]
What exactly was Hyde trying to accomplish by intimidating and humiliating this girl who had just been sexually assaulted by one of the participants?
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Addendum, Aug. 29, 2007: I knew I had remembered seeing Judy Fortiere's name somewhere. I went back and re-read Gary's ISAC document. She start's being mentioned about a little more than a third of the way through. For greater ease of reading as well as for the greater good of everyone, I have copied this document onto fornits with its own thread. Links for downloading and source are provided therein. Many thanks, Gary!
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=23004
Hydemom:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Hydemom"" ---There were male and female staff in this meeting. My daughter told me it was the most humiliating thing she was ever forced to do. She was having trouble being in the same room as the creep teacher, (LD) who fondled her, so was looking the other way. Judy Fortier, a former Hyde Mom and staffer told her, "xxxxx, you need to look at LD when you talk to him." Ken Grant also told her that she needed to confront LD and let him know how uncomfortable he made her feel.
The fact that these misguided, ignoramus, mentally impaired fools who run Hyde School would think it is normal or therapuetic to put a child (victim) through this says it all!!
--- End quote ---
Okay, from what I understand Hyde called this meeting, let's call it the "victim is expected to confront assailant" meeting, and from what I've read thus far plus other information which I will not go into, this is not exactly a meeting that the victim wanted, in fact, the victim has said "it was the most humiliating thing she was ever forced to do."
[li] Diddler Dubinsky, accused of sexual assault;[/li]
[li] Ken Grant, heavy honcho school official, doesn't want the school to be held liable, friend of Diddler and Diddler's wife;[/li]
[li] Judy Fortier, Hyde staff and sycophant, friend of Claire and Ken Grant, friend of Diddler and Diddler's wife, husband also used to work at Hyde but allegedly left "because of a pronounced proclivity to ogle undergrads;"[/li]
[li] unidentified male Hyde staff #1, Hyde apologist whether he wants to be or not;[/li]
[li] unidentified male Hyde staff #2, Hyde apologist whether he wants to be or not;[/li]
[li] perhaps others.[/li][/list]
[li] victim, underage, family is far away and has not been informed.[/li][/list]
Ummm... something seems a bit OFF about this picture. Two things rear up in my mind, other than the incredibly disparate blocks of personnel (just squint your eyes and look at that screen).
Why weren't the parents informed immediately when the original complaints were aired, not to mention by the time this meeting took place (from what I've heard, there was even a second meeting like the above before they deigned to get around to it)?
Why isn't there an advocate for this girl present, even an informal one, a teacher or confidante of her own choosing, preferable someone outside of the school with no hidden agenda?[/list]
What exactly was Hyde trying to accomplish by intimidating and humiliating this girl who had just been sexually assaulted by one of the participants?
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Addendum, Aug. 29, 2007: I knew I had remembered seeing Judy Fortiere's name somewhere. I went back and re-read Gary's ISAC document. She start's being mentioned about a little more than a third of the way through. For greater ease of reading as well as for the greater good of everyone, I have copied this document onto fornits with its own thread. Links for downloading and source are provided therein. Many thanks, Gary!
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=23004
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As a former parent I will say that I don't think they were bad people. I think that Judy had good intentions but was sadly misguided. I believe she found a purpose at Hyde after having difficulties as a parent. It can happen. It happened to us. Louis was a decent guy from what I remember, but it was obvious he was afraid of Hyde and speaking out against them. I was very disappointed in his weak character and allowing himself to be influenced by the Grants and Gaulds even though it was apparent he and Judy had strong convinctions about this sexual predator, LD. In fact Judy was the one who first encouraged our daughter to come forward as she too was sick of LD's behavior year after year.
I was glad to hear that the Fortier's "got out" of Hyde!
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Hydemom"" ---I was glad to hear that the Fortier's "got out" of Hyde!
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They probably had very little choice about that. It sounds like they were trying to straddle the middle road: placating Hyde, yet trying to do the best by the kids. That's kind of like trying to straddle the running boards of two different cars, each on its own separate road. Sooner or later, one turns off somewhere and, well...
That kind of situation always ends up with said staff being thrown out on their ear, or them managing to slip off discretely after having woken up to what Hyde is, before Hyde wakes up to their "disloyalty."
The only other route is a deal with the devil: heart and soul. Flesh payments only.
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Regardless of Judy Fortier's motivations, the above scenario of your daughter having to stand up to a roomful of Hyde diehards and apologists, including the man who sexually assaulted her, is just plain sick. I'm sorry, but no amount of feel-good intentions will cut it for me on this one. I doubt very much Judy was ever held accountable for her actions here.
Of course, what am I saying. It is always Hyde's position that the kid is primarily to blame.
Joseph W. Gauld:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---Of course, what am I saying. It is always Hyde's position that the kid is primarily to blame.
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Damn right!! Ungrateful little mealy-mouthed twits! We at Hyde have dedicated our lives to helping kids grow up to be fine, upstanding citizens. And yet, without "parental commitment, most Hyde students fail to realize their potential, no matter how great our initial success with them." You, see, it is definitely NOT our fault!!
Flabbergasted,
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator
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