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[webdiva]

Funny you should mention BigPharma.  yet another way to control kids. I just watched this today. All stuff we know but really good. its almost 2 hours long.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/147.html

i myself use herb to help sleep at times. i made the mistake once of taking 2mg of xanax every night for about a month, to sleep.  I was very disappointed in myself  because I am usually so good at researching any drug I put into my body.  Anyway I had never been into valium or benzos etc beyond the once in a blue moon.

Well after 1 month of taking xans to sleep I ran out and thought nothing of it. LOL yeah... then I discovered the wonderful world of benzo withdrawal.  I truly though i was going to die or kill myself or go insane or something.  

Thankfully after about 3 days I was able to get on something much milder   and ween myself off. But god damn. I had no idea. And i cant imagine some kid suddenly being cut off from medication like this and being able to deal.  It was the worst 3 days of my life although I'm glad I experienced it and I do not know how I would have been able to handle it had I not been able to ween myself off it.  

I always heard it was on of if not  the hardest drug to quit, because of the withdrawal, now i understand.    I weened myself off completely over a two years ago and I still have some side effects. I never had a panic attack until after taking xanax. How ironic.

anyway sorry went off on a tangent there lol

Hands down, methadone is the hardest to quit.  My wonderful doctors, after getting me hooked on vicodin/percocet/oxy etc.  decided it would be better if I just had the straight opiate instead of adding the NSAIDS.  I was in so much pain between 2 TMJ surgeries (jaw used to lock open a couple times a week) and a lumbar injury that eventually required surgery too, that I didn't give a shit.

Until they stopped.  My doctor decides he wants to go into 'research' and farms his patients out to sub humans.  Oh what a fun few weeks, yes WEEKS that was.  I thought I would die.  

No, seriously.  Die.   But I didn't.  Now I do what I want, I'm smart about it and so far (knock wood), life doesn't suck.

oh yeah agreed. and i thought i was smart about it lol really only focused on researching "illegal" drugs that i put in my body though. wasnt even considering nor had i even paid much attention to what has been going on in the pharma industry since the mid 80s.  

i only took methadone once, last november. i was ill and in a lot of pain. that drug almost killed me lol (thats anther story) but it damn sure might have saved my life too. I had a friend send me two,  i hadn't slept in weeks and was damn near delirious. it removed the pain completely and i slept for like 20 hours.  was able to clear my head enough to realize hmm maybe i should really go to the hospital now. lol yeah that was an adventure!

[Anne Bonney]

oh yeah agreed. and i thought i was smart about it lol really only focused on researching "illegal" drugs that i put in my body though. wasnt even considering nor had i even paid much attention to what has been going on in the pharma industry since the mid 80s.  

i only took methadone once, last november. i was ill and in a lot of pain. that drug almost killed me lol (thats anther story) but it damn sure might have saved my life too. I had a friend send me two,  i hadn't slept in weeks and was damn near delirious. it removed the pain completely and i slept for like 20 hours.  was able to clear my head enough to realize hmm maybe i should really go to the hospital now. lol yeah that was an adventure!

I hear ya.  At first,  it saved mine.  No real side effects, took care of the pain while allowing me to function.  It was great.  Until I had to stop.

And i meant to write "methadone was the hardest for me. " I'm not discounting what others have been through with various pharmaceuticals.

[webdiva]

oh yeah agreed. and i thought i was smart about it lol really only focused on researching "illegal" drugs that i put in my body though. wasnt even considering nor had i even paid much attention to what has been going on in the pharma industry since the mid 80s.  

i only took methadone once, last november. i was ill and in a lot of pain. that drug almost killed me lol (thats anther story) but it damn sure might have saved my life too. I had a friend send me two,  i hadn't slept in weeks and was damn near delirious. it removed the pain completely and i slept for like 20 hours.  was able to clear my head enough to realize hmm maybe i should really go to the hospital now. lol yeah that was an adventure!

I hear ya.  At first,  it saved mine.  No real side effects, took care of the pain while allowing me to function.  It was great.  Until I had to stop.

And i meant to write "methadone was the hardest for me. " I'm not discounting what others have been through with various pharmaceuticals.

yeah im glad i didn't require to stay on anything that strong.  as to how it almost killed me.. my friend sent me two like i mentioned. he told me to take either about 1/4 of a pill or the whole thing. so i was like fuck it ill take 1/2 lol . course he knew if i took only 1/4 i probably would have been able to function, but any more then that, if you happen to "wake up still high" can be quite dangerous.  SO had i taken the WHOLE pill i never would have woken up.

But i woke up  when i fell out of my chair and hit the floor. lol no pain though, i was just sitting there waiting and it never came.  So I got up and went to the bathroom.  I look in the mirror and i pass out.  My face hits the ceramic sink and there i am looking in the mirror again. No blood, no pain, coulda cracked my head open. was in awe but too fucked up to fully appreciate what almost happened. I figured it would be best if i went back on the couch before i killed myself. so i did. lol

[Anne Bonney]

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yeah im glad i didn't require to stay on anything that strong.  as to how it almost killed me.. my friend sent me two like i mentioned. he told me to take either about 1/4 of a pill or the whole thing. so i was like fuck it ill take 1/2 lol . course he knew if i took only 1/4 i probably would have been able to function, but any more then that, if you happen to "wake up still high" can be quite dangerous.  SO had i taken the WHOLE pill i never would have woken up.

But i woke up  when i fell out of my chair and hit the floor. lol no pain though, i was just sitting there waiting and it never came.  So I got up and went to the bathroom.  I look in the mirror and i pass out.  My face hits the ceramic sink and there i am looking in the mirror again. No blood, no pain, coulda cracked my head open. was in awe but too fucked up to fully appreciate what almost happened. I figured it would be best if i went back on the couch before i killed myself. so i did. lol

 :rofl:  :rofl:

I did that on benzos, which is why I avoid them now.  


I was on percs/vicodin for about 3 years before the insurance company would approve the surgery and then methadone for about 5 or 6 after that.  Brutal to be sure.

So now I just smoke myself silly.  :silly:

[hanzomon4]

oh yeah agreed. and i thought i was smart about it lol really only focused on researching "illegal" drugs that i put in my body though. wasnt even considering nor had i even paid much attention to what has been going on in the pharma industry since the mid 80s.  

i only took methadone once, last november. i was ill and in a lot of pain. that drug almost killed me lol (thats anther story) but it damn sure might have saved my life too. I had a friend send me two,  i hadn't slept in weeks and was damn near delirious. it removed the pain completely and i slept for like 20 hours.  was able to clear my head enough to realize hmm maybe i should really go to the hospital now. lol yeah that was an adventure!

I hear ya.  At first,  it saved mine.  No real side effects, took care of the pain while allowing me to function.  It was great.  Until I had to stop.

And i meant to write "methadone was the hardest for me. " I'm not discounting what others have been through with various pharmaceuticals.

yeah im glad i didn't require to stay on anything that strong.  as to how it almost killed me.. my friend sent me two like i mentioned. he told me to take either about 1/4 of a pill or the whole thing. so i was like fuck it ill take 1/2 lol . course he knew if i took only 1/4 i probably would have been able to function, but any more then that, if you happen to "wake up still high" can be quite dangerous.  SO had i taken the WHOLE pill i never would have woken up.

But i woke up  when i fell out of my chair and hit the floor. lol no pain though, i was just sitting there waiting and it never came.  So I got up and went to the bathroom.  I look in the mirror and i pass out.  My face hits the ceramic sink and there i am looking in the mirror again. No blood, no pain, coulda cracked my head open. was in awe but too fucked up to fully appreciate what almost happened. I figured it would be best if i went back on the couch before i killed myself. so i did. lol

Good God, you had quiet the reaction. The strongest pain killer I've ever had was oxy and it didn't kill any pain exactly it just made me feel a lot better about it. I tried something else that I think was morphine but I only remember being really happy and having a lot of fun, what I did exactly is a blur. It was my first opioid and I only took it cause it said may cause drowsiness on the bottle and I hadn't sleep for days,  never again have I had such a reaction.

[webdiva]

So now I just smoke myself silly.  :silly:

thats what amazes me weed gets such a  bad rap. its so amazing medicinally, mentally, etc. yet doctors will write scripts for xanies without blinking.  Nice to know they are concerned about the kids and not out to make a quick buck eh?

[Anne Bonney]

So now I just smoke myself silly.  :silly:

thats what amazes me weed gets such a  bad rap. its so amazing medicinally, mentally, etc. yet doctors will write scripts for xanies without blinking.  Nice to know they are concerned about the kids and not out to make a quick buck eh?

Yep.  I'm amazed when I think back on all the crap they had me on, for both physical and mental issues.  Now all I do is smoke.  With my doctor's blessing, I might add.  Although that's why I'm in the market for a vape.  She's not happy at all about the smoking (cigarettes.  they're gone soon).  It's either the vape or cooking it.

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[webdiva]

So now I just smoke myself silly.  :silly:

thats what amazes me weed gets such a  bad rap. its so amazing medicinally, mentally, etc. yet doctors will write scripts for xanies without blinking.  Nice to know they are concerned about the kids and not out to make a quick buck eh?

Yep.  I'm amazed when I think back on all the crap they had me on, for both physical and mental issues.  Now all I do is smoke.  With my doctor's blessing, I might add.  Although that's why I'm in the market for a vape.  She's not happy at all about the smoking (cigarettes.  they're gone soon).  It's either the vape or cooking it.

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yeah i dont mind cooking with it (and i dont do brownies i prefer something like salmon, pasta and some damn good butter) LOL   but yeah at least you have the ability to vape too.  course if you move to cali you can grow your own plants! move already! LOL

[Anne Bonney]

So now I just smoke myself silly.  :silly:

thats what amazes me weed gets such a  bad rap. its so amazing medicinally, mentally, etc. yet doctors will write scripts for xanies without blinking.  Nice to know they are concerned about the kids and not out to make a quick buck eh?

Yep.  I'm amazed when I think back on all the crap they had me on, for both physical and mental issues.  Now all I do is smoke.  With my doctor's blessing, I might add.  Although that's why I'm in the market for a vape.  She's not happy at all about the smoking (cigarettes.  they're gone soon).  It's either the vape or cooking it.

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yeah i dont mind cooking with it (and i dont do brownies i prefer something like salmon, pasta and some damn good butter) LOL   but yeah at least you have the ability to vape too.  course if you move to cali you can grow your own plants! move already! LOL

I know, but I'm too much of a cracker.   8-)   We'll just end up selling the house (or leasing it, don't know yet), upgrading the boat and doing the live aboard thing.   Until then, I've always got Key West.  Hey, any town that has balls enough to secede http://www.conchrepublic.com/history.htm  , even in jest, and carry on an annual festival dedicated to drunken sailors, wenches and general wreaking of havoc is my kind of place.

[webdiva]

hey you can grow plants on your boat too you cracker!!  :rofl:  :rofl:

[Anne Bonney]

hey you can grow plants on your boat too you cracker!!  :rofl:  :rofl:

Not if you're traveling much.   Penalties are a lot different out there, especially if traveling out of the country.  Too scary for me.  I used to carry when I flew.  Not anymore.  So I have sleepless nights when I travel with my husband.



Well, who knows.  Once I get out there I may find I'm freaking  out about nothing.

[85 Day Jerk]

Them "sleepless nights" must arrive from that time you got tired of keeping your big ass thighs together and the stank that emminated from betweencks your legs done gone and set off the stank detectors and made the fuckin oxygen masks fall from yonder ceiling of the aircraft you were flying on.  That sho' must enough had been embarrassing enough for a burned out neighboorhood pump such as yourself...............

[webdiva]

Well, who knows.  Once I get out there I may find I'm freaking  out about nothing.

well i was kidding kinda but its much easier to dump a plant in the ocean when u see the coast guard coming hten it is to try to eat it! LOL

[Anne Bonney]

Well, who knows.  Once I get out there I may find I'm freaking  out about nothing.

well i was kidding kinda but its much easier to dump a plant in the ocean when u see the coast guard coming hten it is to try to eat it! LOL

True that!  Ideally, we'd like to be able to travel around the Keys, Caribbean and Mexico.  Big undertaking though.  A couple we're friends with took two years off and traveled around C. America and the Caribbean.  They were much more experienced than us though.  True sailors.  Ours is a powerboat.  We're comfortable around the Keys and Gulf water from here to TX, but we're getting anxious to hit Bimini for the first time.

 8-)

[Anne Bonney]

Them "sleepless nights" must arrive from that time you got tired of keeping your big ass thighs together and the stank that emminated from betweencks your legs done gone and set off the stank detectors and made the fuckin oxygen masks fall from yonder ceiling of the aircraft you were flying on.  That sho' must enough had been embarrassing enough for a burned out neighboorhood pump such as yourself...............

Oops.  Must have really struck a nerve with DoughBoy this time.
 :rofl:



Bob, Bob.  Make up your mind.  Am I a fat fuck like yourself or anorexic?

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