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Frustrated. An attack on the Danish education system
« on: July 25, 2007, 08:55:07 AM »
Social network is everything for a Danish student. We are hardworking people. So hardworking in fact that we sometimes need to take a drink the guy in the next office, just to learn his or her name (I think that my company has hired new staff in some offices 100 yards away. I have located new email-addresses, I have not seen before.).

So in any school, which have students of 16 years and older, they have a friday bar. The schools does even compete about who has the best bar, because many students and their parents decide what line of work their child should study based on the team-work in the school and especially where team-works start - in the bar.

But now my country is in shock due to a court decision. Bars in the city would like the students to come there instead:

Link: Beer taps closed on student bars

The the big question is now: Will the students drop out or will the schools appeal the court decision?

Newer before has the future of Denmark been in such a danger.
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2007, 09:48:36 AM »
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

If that is the biggest of your worries.........
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Why it is alarming
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2007, 10:35:09 AM »
We are an unique culture - frankly sometimes even odd for the outsiders (My mother is from Finland, so I know they look on us).

But we have manged to create a open society where we can speak of hard issues. That is why our police did have problems with 8-13 year old children drinking alcohol and throwing rocks at them last weekend. We believe that there is no lower age limit of the rite of passage drinking and adjusting to alcohol is considered.

The children drinks in front of us adults and therefore we can stop it, when they get too much - if you take your job as an adult responsible. Some parents neglect their duties and when children drink alone that where the police enters the picture and send the children home with a warning. The children are not breaking the law - it is the parents presence, which lacks.

But parents managed to do their job. That is why we can produce a low number of people killed in alcohol-related accidents. That is why we have very few people in jail compared to other nations. That is why murders are rare in Denmark.

But we are also a vunerable culture. Our society builds on norms. Everyone helps each other to adjust a little. You can call it a massive positive peer culture if you like. Every Dane is put in a database when he is born. Our mandatory DNA register is now 20 years old, so everyone under 20 is in the Database. Also everyone over 20 year ever committed for a crime is in the Database. From childhood the database is built and the nursery, kindergarten and school adds data, so they do properly know more about me than I can remember.

There is no problem with that, if we are allowed to party, drink and in general do all those things others regards an immoral.

So you can see young Danes aged 16 or more travelling on pub-crawling journeys to Spain and Bulgaria.

Our social network created while we were in school last all life. And many business are founded in the Fridaybar on a school. Some are sold for huge amount to companies outside Denmark. Investments we are using to improve our society even more.

That is why I am worrying about this attack on our education system. They are attack the very source of our future income. Without the Fridaybar the students would isolate themselves from their peers and burry themselves in work, because it is in our nature to do so, if we are not partying.

No Fridaybar, no social network, no new firms and Denmark is out for good.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2007, 11:09:19 AM »
Do you have anything that resembles actual course work during your schooling? I mean you have drunk friday and naked lesbian dancing tuesdays.

When do your kids study math?
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It is thursday - not tuesday
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2007, 02:12:57 PM »
The manage - however some of them perform poorly friday morning during what you call High School. They have hangovers when they come in friday morning.

In a way it is good that those, who can not perform 100 percent on Friday fail due alcohol consumption during High School. In Denmark education is free. That means that the society has to see to that people, who can strain the amount of education, makes it and those who can not, leaves school and start to work instead.

If they somehow coache, receive therapy or drug themselves so they can make it through high school, the society perhaps end up with a person who choose a line of work where they will fail in the end, when they collapse from stress.

If an adult becomes an alcoholic or a drug user due to strain from the workload, we have lost money. Such people would benefit themselves and the society if there McJob are written across their career.

We believe that everyone has to be take care of their own matters - Even our children. Of course I ask my children about homework, but not the quality of it. 20 years of experience from selling Microsoft products have taught me that it is quantity not quality that matters. If they do not make it to high school, but choose to stamp papers in the local city hall instead, I am happy, if they are happy and relaxed about it.

In fact just to keep our youth under pressure, we are educating  almost all doctors in Norway and Sweden in our schools and we have made our grade system so they can they can enter our school almost without having to perform anything. And we still manage to found firms, educate people to our health services and keep our society running with a lot of freeloaders, who has one purpose: To put our youth under pressure.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2007, 06:00:23 PM »
I can remember when I was at university no friday morning lectures were schedueled as ppl would be hung over. I think scandanavian and european also have gotten it right when it comes to attitudes toward teen drinking.
But a bar actually at a high school? The idea does seem less than prudent. I can certainly see the merit in removing it. Afterall most offices don't encourage employees to drink at lunch (unless you work in advertising or journalism).Also there is plenty of time during the uni yrs to be drinking during the day.
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The bar is closed during the day
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2007, 03:26:14 AM »
It is closed during the day. As in the case of almost all firms, social gatherings are done after work.

The management of our universities are presently trying to get our government to step in and preserve the friday bars, because it is what makes our education facilities unique regarding team work and social network.

As I have told before, a lot of new firms are created by students while they are studying. Of course it means that some of them do not get their degree because their firm becomes too successful.

In last month Bill Gates managed to finish his study. He had been to busy with his little firm to do it when he was young.

So the message is: If your offspring drop out, it does not mean that he forever would be without education. They can still have successful lives and catch up later. In Denmark we even have people aged 50 or 60, who finish High School just because they want to prove that they could.
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