Izzy: In the business

[psy]

Isabelle,
You should know who this parent is by now.  She is the parent you referred to "Fnuts" and was posting as several different people.  She has since discovered what you were up to and contacted me.  Her only concern with me posting this information is that you might reveal the identity of her minor son (as you did with Sandy).

Although there would obviously be legal repercussions for such a stupid action, it would be nothing compared to the shit-storm I would personally bring down on your fat ass.  You should have figured out by now that I am NOT bluffing.  I have plenty more information.  As I said before.  It's not "which parent" i've been talking to that you should be worried about, it's "how many".

You know what I told you to do.  I suggest you do it.  You will never again be an "advocate".  Perhaps if you had been honest with me, and had given me some decent information, things might have been different.  You ruined the last chance you had.  Now you will burn with sue.

Hi _____
 
Just checking in with you to see how things are going. I've been busy and out of town, leaving again next week for a week-long business trip. Never a dull moment!! I was successful in helping get another child out of Tranquility Bay - we've been working on this since December, if you can believe that. It was a custody issue. I went to TX for the hearing and she's home!! She said horrible things happened there, too. She's not talking too much yet but I anticipate she will in time. It's too bad because if they treated the children well such positive things could happen for them. I've learned when people are set in their ways there's no changing them - not unless they are the one wanting to make the change. So I end up doing damage control.
 
I just hope you're doing alright. And _____ - how's he adjusting? Have things gotten better at Sorenson's? How do you like the place? I'm trying to schedule a visit there as well as some other programs in Utah. I'd like to see them for myself, especially if I'm going to be involved in recommending some programs when we have situations like yours. I'm sure the day is going to come when I won't be able to reach Sue and I feel I need to know for myself and see for myself.
 
Hope to hear from you soon.
 
Isabelle
 
--
Isabelle Zehnder
Founder and President
Coalition Against Institutionalized Child Abuse (CAICA)
Tel: (360) 903-3951
www.caica.org

[Anonymous]

Izzy going out of business!  :tup:  ::cheers::  :nworthy:

[Sandy]

Isabelle,
You should know who this parent is by now.  She is the parent you referred to "Fnuts" and was posting as several different people.  She has since discovered what you were up to and contacted me.  Her only concern with me posting this information is that you might reveal the identity of her minor son (as you did with Sandy).

Hi _____
 
Just checking in with you to see how things are going. I've been busy and out of town, leaving again next week for a week-long business trip. Never a dull moment!! I was successful in helping get another child out of Tranquility Bay - we've been working on this since December, if you can believe that. It was a custody issue. I went to TX for the hearing and she's home!! She said horrible things happened there, too. She's not talking too much yet but I anticipate she will in time. It's too bad because if they treated the children well such positive things could happen for them. I've learned when people are set in their ways there's no changing them - not unless they are the one wanting to make the change. So I end up doing damage control.
 

Yep, she referred me to Fornits.  I had NEVER heard of this website until she wanted me to get on here.  How many others did she refer here?  Also, she's the one that gets on here and posts as "guest" and other names.

Isabelle NEVER talked to my daughter and she NEVER will.

[Anonymous]

INFAMOUS ZEHNDER QUOTES

So I end up doing damage control. [/color]

- Isabelle Zehnder

Given that this is exactly what it appears Izzy is trying to do  - FOR HERSELF -- I'd have to say at least on this score, truer words have never been spoken.

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

[psy]

Isabelle,
You should know who this parent is by now.  She is the parent you referred to "Fnuts" and was posting as several different people.  She has since discovered what you were up to and contacted me.  Her only concern with me posting this information is that you might reveal the identity of her minor son (as you did with Sandy).

Hi _____
 
Just checking in with you to see how things are going. I've been busy and out of town, leaving again next week for a week-long business trip. Never a dull moment!! I was successful in helping get another child out of Tranquility Bay - we've been working on this since December, if you can believe that. It was a custody issue. I went to TX for the hearing and she's home!! She said horrible things happened there, too. She's not talking too much yet but I anticipate she will in time. It's too bad because if they treated the children well such positive things could happen for them. I've learned when people are set in their ways there's no changing them - not unless they are the one wanting to make the change. So I end up doing damage control.
 

Yep, she referred me to Fornits.

I wasn't actually referring to you with that.  You aren't the only one she pointed to the big Izzy thread.

[Sandy]

Oh, I know that, Psy.  I know that Isabelle got upset with this other parent because she did start posting on here.  I'm sure there's numerous others.

[psy]

Izzy going out of business!  :tup:  ::cheers::  :nworthy:

And this isn't even the shit Deborah was referring to.  LOLz .. Go find a bunker Izzy!  May I suggest NORAD.  Oh wait... sue has that one and won't open the door... LOL

[Anonymous]

Oh, I know that, Psy. I know that Isabelle got upset with this other parent because she did start posting on here. I'm sure there's numerous others.

No offence Sandy, but how would you know she was upset with me posting if you weren't still talking with her after you said you had stopped?  These emails were very recently.

[Sandy]

Oh, I know that, Psy. I know that Isabelle got upset with this other parent because she did start posting on here. I'm sure there's numerous others.

No offence Sandy, but how would you know she was upset with me posting if you weren't still talking with her after you said you had stopped?  These emails were very recently.

No offense taken.  I'm not sure who you are but I was thinking of a parent that started posting on here along the time line that Isabelle told me to pull this website up.  I'm sure that there are MANY parents on here now that Isabelle gave them this website.  And yes, I was still speaking to her at the time I first got on here, I no longer have anything to do with her.

[Anonymous]

Guest wrote:
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Oh, I know that, Psy. I know that Isabelle got upset with this other parent because she did start posting on here. I'm sure there's numerous others.


No offence Sandy, but how would you know she was upset with me posting if you weren't still talking with her after you said you had stopped? These emails were very recently.


No offense taken. I'm not sure who you are but I was thinking of a parent that started posting on here along the time line that Isabelle told me to pull this website up. I'm sure that there are MANY parents on here now that Isabelle gave them this website. And yes, I was still speaking to her at the time I first got on here, I no longer have anything to do with her.

Glad no offense was taken.  When was that time if you don't mind me asking?

Because directly after, she wanted me to pull out, so I am curious why she would ask more parents in after that, knowing full well that they would eventually figure out what the hell was going on.  That wasn't too smart.  Maybe too many glasses of wine if you ask me.  Desperation maybe.  I can't speculate, and I don't want to.  It's just that your post seemed a little strange to me.

As far as you still having anything to do with Isabelle, it's a free world, free speech, you can do what you want here on Fornits, or at least I am learning that.

I am also learning that I can be played for a fool, and I should know better.  But when you're in the situation I have been in, and still am in, sometimes you just don't have that kind of time, and anyone offering help seems like a lifesaver, and all kinds of people come out of the woodwork claiming to be your Savior, or Saviour.

So if I offended, again, I am sorry.

[Sandy]

Guest wrote:


Glad no offense was taken.  When was that time if you don't mind me asking?
Because directly after, she wanted me to pull out, so I am curious why she would ask more parents in after that, knowing full well that they would eventually figure out what the hell was going on.  That wasn't too smart.  Maybe too many glasses of wine if you ask me.  Desperation maybe.  I can't speculate, and I don't want to.  It's just that your post seemed a little strange to me.

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I had to look back at some emails but June 26th was when Isabelle first emailed me to get on Fornits.

Too funny, Isabelle told me a couple of times that she was "allergic" to alcohol.  Maybe just an alcholic in AA though, IMO.

[Anonymous]

I have no dog in this fight.  Isabelle Zehnder has always had a credibility problem, as far as I'm concerned.  

I'd simply like to say that it is inspiring to see people step up to the plate, and share their experiences in the interests of TRUTH.

To be manipulated by anyone in the name of "treatment", "salvation" or "advocacy" is a terrible proposition.

Those who stand together for the TRUTH and FEAR NOT the consequences are the ones I respect and admire.

Thanks to each and every one of you.  You know who you are because you know what is in your heart.   You are the best hope for the children who are the true victims of this fraudulent industry.

 8-)

[Anonymous]

Thanks to each and every one of you. You know who you are because you know what is in your heart. You are the best hope for the children who are the true victims of this fraudulent industry.

I don't know if you know what's in our hearts, but I will tell you, when you have been screwed by everyone in this industry who says they are there to help you, and then they turn around and use you, abuse you, and your kids, and take your horrific circumstances to better themselves, then it's time to start doing something about it, no matter what the cost.

[Anonymous]

And Isabelle, if you are reading this, it's time you do a "reality-check", and decide how much you really need these people.  Ask yourself:  "Do I consider these people my friends, or associates, or what?"  Why am I doing this?  What's important to me?  WHO AM I HURTING?  Me?  Those families?  The movement?  How am I contributing to this?  How am I not contributing?  What have I done wrong?  I am sure that's a long list.  Wake up Isabelle, roll over, and do the right thing.

[Anonymous]

Too funny, Isabelle always told me that she was "allergic" to alcohol

The word "always" would lead me to believe that you guys were friends, and for a long time.  Maybe you should re-phrase your posts, or at the least, re-think them before you hit the "submit" button.