kill 'em all?

[hanzomon4]

Dude who do you think fund all of these abusive shit pits? It's the pillars of the community, ya know the ones with all the money and no clue. If that was meant as some sort of endorsement... No try again....

[Anne Bonney]

So you're a rig pig? You make boisterous claims of superior knowledge on all things relative to AARC and it's methods, yet you don't even have a high school diploma to back it up?? That's rich. It sounds to me like you sat down in your shack one night and decided you were going to decide for yourself the inner-workings of aarc, their staff and their people.

What a fucking elitist DICK!!  

On one side, you've got a girl who had a bad time in treatment, with some slob of a rig-pig boyfriend who if he was any type of decent boyfriend, would aid in progress rather than embracing her past anger issues and using them as a perceived foundation for their relationship to show her how much he "cares".

Do you hear yourself?  Lord, he's gone.  KoolAid overdose.

On the other side, you have a plethora of affluent members of the community backing the place up and promoting the program.

Like Mel Sembler?  http://www.alternet.org/story/27725/

I certainly hope you feel small Ajax, because I see 100% what you are doing to that girl, it's pathetic and manipulative. Further, I feel awful for her that she was in a position in her life where the only comfort she could find is with some non-factor human being like you.  

Holy shit dude.  You're the one who should feel small.   Typical of programs people though.  Their fangs come out when you criticize their lord and savior.  You'd think they're faith in it would be strong enough to survive what some moron (your opinion of AJ, not mine) thinks.  Guess not.

Hm.

[ajax13]

I guess if some rich people say that it's okay, then unlawful imprisonment and brainwashing are okay.  Sorry.  I must admit though that I am puzzled.  As AARC has an 85% success rate, millions of dollars in charitable donations and loads of good publicity from Calgary media, why do you post here Josh?  If I'm just an ignorant, ill-informed rig pig, why assail me?  I can't make any sense out of why someone who has gotten on with their life would return so many times, for several years now, to attack what must be a tiny fringe of folks who can't or won't appreciate the fabulousness of AARC.  Surely the shining majesty of AARC's hundreds of cured patients/inmates/victims (what are they called, anyhow?) speaks for itself?

[ajax13]

[quote="Guest So you're a rig pig? You make boisterous claims of superior knowledge on all things relative to AARC and it's methods, yet you don't even have a high school diploma to back it up??

Josh old pal, I went to high school with Janne Holmgren, an original Kids mutant who was turned loose on the children in AARC.  Another person at our high school was the Empress of AARC's daughter, who dated my friend lo these many years ago.  I got an Alberta Advanced Diploma while you were still in underoos.  And Josh, why do you think anybody cares how many years you've been sober?  Abstinence is neither a vice nor a virtue.  You may have noticed that a lot of people imbibe, and a great many partake of other drugs from sugar to heroin.

Now as to my superior knowledge on all things relative to AARC, what statement of mine have you disproved?  The Wizard worked at Kids in the US.  Sandy Levy-Barbero, a real social worker, saw Kids and moved to have it closed.  The Wizard moved it to Calgary so he could run it.  The Wizard transplanted everything from Kids from raps to the newcomer/oldcomer system to the host home scam.  The Wizard used people from the Union Institute to sell AARC to the people of Alberta.  The man from the rotary club, Dr. Dookie,  who chose to bring Kids to Calgary and then set up AARC, had no qualifications related to child-psychology, psychiatry, pharmacology or drug rehabilitation.  He was doctor of ministry.  The Wizard got a mail-order PhD from the Union Institute, just like Miller Newton, the head of Kids.  The Wizard was running AARC full-time when he acquired this paper, making his claims of research an impossibility.
The center was housed in an old warehouse, donated by the rotary club, so there was no building cost.  The original peer counsellors were some of the inmates from Kids, who had no training in drug rehabiliation counselling other than their experience inKids.  This group included Brian Neil and Janne Holmgren.  The staff at AARC are former inmates with no qualifications to treat what AARC describes as a medical condition.  The study that AARC quotes as verification of their success was written by the Wizard, along with Natalie Oldcomer, a staffer and former adult inmate of AARC.  Additionally, the study was overseen by yet another scammer from the Union Insitute.  Millions of dollars have been donated to AARC even though the families of inmates pay $50k or so for an AARC sentence for their children.  So which part of that isn't true Josh?

[Anonymous]

Josh, you have some dislike for the way AARC treated you regarding your specific personality? I guess it helped that you are seven feet tall weighing in just under 300? .

Wow. 7 feet. That's tall... Just sayin.

[Anne Bonney]

Josh old pal, I went to high school with Janne Holmgren, an original Kids mutant who was turned loose on the children in AARC.  Another person at our high school was the Empress of AARC's daughter, who dated my friend lo these many years ago.  I got an Alberta Advanced Diploma while you were still in underoos.  And Josh, why do you think anybody cares how many years you've been sober?  Abstinence is neither a vice nor a virtue.  You may have noticed that a lot of people imbibe, and a great many partake of other drugs from sugar to heroin.

Now as to my superior knowledge on all things relative to AARC, what statement of mine have you disproved?  The Wizard worked at Kids in the US.  Sandy Levy-Barbero, a real social worker, saw Kids and moved to have it closed.  The Wizard moved it to Calgary so he could run it.  The Wizard transplanted everything from Kids from raps to the newcomer/oldcomer system to the host home scam.  The Wizard used people from the Union Institute to sell AARC to the people of Alberta.  The man from the rotary club, Dr. Dookie,  who chose to bring Kids to Calgary and then set up AARC, had no qualifications related to child-psychology, psychiatry, pharmacology or drug rehabilitation.  He was doctor of ministry.  The Wizard got a mail-order PhD from the Union Institute, just like Miller Newton, the head of Kids.  The Wizard was running AARC full-time when he acquired this paper, making his claims of research an impossibility.
The center was housed in an old warehouse, donated by the rotary club, so there was no building cost.  The original peer counsellors were some of the inmates from Kids, who had no training in drug rehabiliation counselling other than their experience inKids.  This group included Brian Neil and Janne Holmgren.  The staff at AARC are former inmates with no qualifications to treat what AARC describes as a medical condition.  The study that AARC quotes as verification of their success was written by the Wizard, along with Natalie Oldcomer, a staffer and former adult inmate of AARC.  Additionally, the study was overseen by yet another scammer from the Union Insitute.  Millions of dollars have been donated to AARC even though the families of inmates pay $50k or so for an AARC sentence for their children.  So which part of that isn't true Josh?

Straight!!!![/color]

[Anonymous]

I am wondering what happened at AARC that has people talking about it in this manner.  Objective factual responses please

[ajax13]

What manner?

[Deprogrammed]

Tonight my Special Lady Friend, former AARC inmate and victim of the Wizard, and I were talking about the perpetrators at All About Receiving Cash.  Although my SLF was hurt in so many ways, by so many people at AARC, she is still quick to point out that the peer counsellors and even the clinical staffers are all damaged people who were hurt as young people.  This is true.  The entire agenda at AARC is obscene, illegal, and immoral, but the solution is not a witch-hunt.  The Wizard is a fraud and a pathological manipulator and swindler, so he must be prevented from further harming children and stealing money from the myriad sources he has tapped.  The staffers are not qualified to work anywhere else, so they will simply disappear.  The system at AARC is engineered to produce abuse by peer counsellors and oldcomers, so once the system is dismantled the abomination will end.  There are many examples of human beings who are put into a position of power, under highly stressful conditions, who resort to behavior that is horrifying but is to be expected in the given situation.  Assigning blame is not the goal, ending the abuse and preventing the Leader from perpetuating his perverse agenda is.  The former inmates who promote the criminal enterprise will stop once the Wizard's scam is brought to light in court, and subsequently in the media with which he is so enamored.  
That ticking you hear Dean-o is the crocodile comin' to getcha!

Hello Ajax,
I really just wanted to respond to the title of the thread. It reminded me of Metallica, what a great rockin band.
-DP

[Anonymous]

Abusive, perverse, hurt, the wizard, survivors inmates, perpetrators horrifying, obscene, illegal....  Please tell...What happened at AARC?

The Flower

[ajax13]

Couldn't stay away, Joshy?  Once again, you've proven unable to control your compulsion to draw attention to yourself, and again you've proven devoid of the intellectual capacity to come up with something clever or insightful to say.  Think about it.  Since the AARC forum was rolled into the Straight forum, in order for you to find this thread, you had to scroll through dozens upon dozens of old threads.  There's nothing in the title to indicate that this thread concerns AARC specifically, indicating that you were looking for this thread in particular.  As the first three topics in the Straight Forum are all permanently placed at the top of the forum, and detail an array of illegal and harmful practises occurring in AARC, it defies credulity that a random visitor to this sight would ignore these first three threads and, after perusing dozens of others, select this thread to inquire about AARC.  For anyone else reading this, the Flower is a former AARC staffer with absolutely no qualifications to perform the type of psychological intervention conducted routinely in AARC by him and many other such amateurs.
Dumb.

[Anonymous]

I agree, I've had it up to here with this guy spouting his idiotic crapola on this forum everyday. Somebody should get the cops on him, or find out where he lives so his computer can be confiscated by the survivor corps. I'll be damned if I'm gonna put up with this crap for too much longer....this fucking bullshit has to stop!!!!

[ajax13]

Still don't have anything to say, but you have to say something?

[Anonymous]

Still don't have anything to say, but you have to say something?

Who the hell do you think you are talking to??

Fuck man, get a clue!!!!!

[Anonymous]

I am not who you apparently think I am.  I am  a neutral person just trying to find out why some people who have been through AARC call themselves survivors.  I have not been through dozens of threads whatever they are.  I have seen a couple of exchanges with adjectives about AARC and calling Dean the wizard.  I simply want to know why.

The Flower