Hephzibah House

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[Anonymous]

Tell us how it goes.

Remember, it's his own words that damn him the most.

[Anonymous]

Yup, keep us posted.

[hanzomon4]

Please tell me this place is made up..

From what little I know about the Christian lock ups with this kind of think I would be taking a trip to Mexico as soon as possible. The focus they have on sex is unhealthy and makes me believe that this could be a place where sexual abuse is very possible if not likely. I'm thinking New Bethany the Roloff homes and Victory Christian Academy. This place is part of a fundamentalist Baptist church, these churches believe in beating kids and the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests is looking into wide spread sexual abuse in these churches. I feel bad for your niece, if you can't help her avoid this place try to prepare her for what may be waiting for her. Is your sister sick or just desperate for help?

[Anonymous]

It's real. Go to the sites posted here and read on my brother.

[Oz girl]

Nope it's not a joke.  My niece is being sent there.  I'm trying to stop it.  The place looks awful.  I'm trying to find someone who has actually stayed there so that I can convince my sister of how abusive it most likely is.  But thanks for making me laugh guys:-)

you should contact isaccorp

http://www.isaccorp.org/

they are the most likely to be able to tell you if the owners have been associated with anywhere else awful or if there are any other horror stories. Get as much info as possible on similar places bby googling Mountain part academy and roloff homes. Isaccorpalso has a lot of alarming info. Given that anyone considering this program is likely to be a capital B bible beater it might be an idea to contact your sister's parish priest or minister and as sincerely as you can share your concerns. They might be someone your sister listens to. Good luck

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[Anonymous]

HEAL ONLINE
http://www.heal-online.org/teen.htm

Read the report:

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[Anonymous]

Where is the father at? Is he gone, involved in the girl's life?
Maybe if Mom won't listen hopefully  the father will.
I sure hope your niece does not go there, I can't believe the stuff that is said, on the  ::jawdrop:: website.

[BuzzKill]

Hello Aunt -

Do what ever you can to slow things down until your sister has had a chance to come to her senses.

Maybe point out to her that sending her daughter to a hyper strict and punitive "Christian" program is more than likely to make the girl turn away from her faith and feel life long fear and distrust of all things Christian.

You might want to get her a copy of Jesus Land. If you want the copy I just finished let me know.

I found it very well written but very sad - as a Christian who feels much maligned by these hateful sadistic creeps calling themselves "Christian" I found the book most distressing.

Maybe it would help your sister see the other side of such a program - how much harm they can do in Christ's name.

Here is the web site for the survivors of the so called Christian program

www.nhym-alumni.org

You can read several survivor testimonies there - and I would hope it would force your sister to see that great caution must be exercised and the child's health and safety are by no means assured just because these people use Jesus as a selling point.

[psy]

The quote on the website is from Isaiah 62:4... It relates (in some interpretations) to demonic posession, specifically, deliverance from demons:
http://www.isaiah624.org/

This chills me to the bone.

or Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.

062:002    And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
062:003    Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
062:004    Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
062:005    For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
062:006    I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,
062:007    And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
062:008    The LORD hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn to be meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured:
062:009    But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise the LORD; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts of my holiness.
062:010    Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people.
062:011    Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
062:012    And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken.

[Anonymous]

:rofl:

That shit doesn't work on us.

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[BuzzKill]

The quote on the website is from Isaiah 62:4... It relates (in some interpretations) to demonic posession, specifically, deliverance from demons:
http://www.isaiah624.org/

This chills me to the bone.

or Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.

062:002    And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
062:003    Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
062:004    Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
062:005    For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
062:006    I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,
062:007    And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
062:008    The LORD hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn to be meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured:
062:009    But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise the LORD; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts of my holiness.
062:010    Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people.
062:011    Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
062:012    And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken.

I disagree strongly with that interpretation of Isaiah  62.

This is very simply about God's intention to redeem Israel and Jerusalem; to once again make the land blessed and prosperous, and peaceful. He has already gathered the people back to the land, from all the Nations, as He said he would. Israel is once again a Nation, as He said it would be - even though it didn't exist for nearly two thousand years - and no nation has ever, in all of history, been "re-born" after being destroyed and its people scattered.  Israelis speak Biblical Hebrew - like He said they would - even though no dead language has ever before in history come back to common use. Already the once desolate land is blossoming and fruitful, like He told us us it would be - forsaken and desolate tho it was, for countless generations. And Jerusalem is the center of world politics - just like He said she would be. And altho the prophets tell us there is coming a day when the worlds armies will be gathered against her yet again, I feel confident - Jerusalem will not fall - and one day, she will be most blessed of all cities, and Israel of all nations, and there will be Peace all over the world - b/c He said so. This is what Isaiah is telling us about.


The bride and bridegroom analogy is a common prophetic language symbolizing God's relationship with Israel - and the church.

Nothing about this passage has anything to do with the demonic.

If you want the verses concerning these things I mention, just ask.

[psy]

I disagree strongly with that interpretation of Isaiah  62.

Totally agree... and so does this scholar (paper from jstor)
... but it appears the above website isn't the only one that thinks it's about throwing out demons:
http://www.bobsanders.org/ministry.htm
bible study on the subject

There are more.  It appears loyalty to state is analogous to loyalty to husband, casting out foreigners analogous to casting out demons (goddamn mexicans!  I knew it! ).

[psy]

This is from one of the testimonies (Mary Speckels) on the site:

Parents read carefully:

"I was listening to the devil's music without my family knowing. Because of the tension I was creating in the home, I deceived myself into believing that the family would do better without me. After being gone a week and a half, with someone the devil provided to lead me astray, my dad and sister came up with a plan to take me to Hephzibah House.
...
[bla bla bla jesus bla bla]
...
When I got to Hephzibah House, I was so angry and prideful I would not admit I had done anything wrong. However, a backslidden Christian cannot be under such solid Biblical preaching and not feel convicted. The Holy Spirit was working in me, and I finally broke. I humbled myself before the Lord and asked Him to forgive me for being such a disobedient child both to my parents and to Him.

I will never be able to express the gratitude I feel, for everything the staff did for me. I greatly appreciated the trust they placed in me when I was walking with the Lord again. My life was a mess, but God used the staff to help get my eyes back on Christ. The separation from the world, Biblical counseling, and Christian love was what I needed. This last year has been a year of spiritual growth, and I pray that I will continue to grow until the Lord calls me Home." [emphasis added]

 ::ftard::  ::unhappy::