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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2007, 02:11:01 AM »
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Well I don't know, I think fornits already provides a fairly useful forum for those wanting to get their stories out. A lot of organizing could be done to sift the good information from the bullshit and all that but it doens't have much to do with this topic. I always thought the exchange of money is starnge in thie scene because whether legitimate or not it makes people wonder about what you are all about. LOok at all the crap caca and those fuckers get for taking money right? So is it really necessary to send your own personal money to survivros to write, seems kind of weird to me to be honest. I wouldnt take your money... you know who's money I wouldn't mind spending, the program profits, but those are being spent on god knows what.. paying politicians I imagine. I am not comfortable submitting my own stories to a peer reivew or group of people, the reason is because I dont give a flying fuck what you think of it, because I know a lot of people hate what I say, some people aree, other people don't care, but to me it's real and it's not like anybody saw it happen, it's an isolated incident, so only me and and a couple other people know what happened and I choose to write about it. A lot of people don't enjoy delving intot he past and reliving these things and writing about them. I am somewhat moasochistic in that way, so much my friend said I should never ever visit this shitty website again and just forget this crap. But I enjoy it, because every time you relive it it loses it's BANG, its hurt and its impact--- now that is moving on if you ask me. So most people don't get that right?
That's why fornits is genius. Yeah I am sure that you and some people know who I am based on my predictable vocabulary and all that, great detective work watson. But people reading this three years from now have no clue, they probhably think I am some program survivor, too drunk to spell right.. obviously suffering PTSD from being locked in a cage. But it is more than that. This place is a gathering of those who have had their eyes forced wide open and shown the way our society works, and some people loved it, others hated it and some were left forever confused, a never ending futile batle with themselves over a relatively small chunk of time that can never dissapear right?
Taking a hundred dollars from some dude on the other side of the world to write about a program experience takes away from the reason why so many are compelled everyday to seek out and write about this sadistic subject. It's because they have to they don't want to, you of all people should understand that. Patronizing comes to mind, but thats just me, maybe others see it differently I don't know. I think your heart is in the right place though. But that is like some white people going down south during the civil rights riots to put some change in the cups of the begging destitute blacks after they were beaten by white cops. Sure it helps them some, but it hurts more to take it..
Some suggestions... just ask survivors questions and stop trying to control the resonse so much. Control is part of the problem, not part of the solution!


All that and not one useful suggestion about my Aspiring Authors Fund?
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2007, 02:13:20 AM »
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However, to be eligible for the grant the author must provide a 2000 to 3000 word article for peer review.

Peer review... not at all program like :-? .. how does that work exactly?


I'm not sure yet. Any suggestions?
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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2007, 02:13:47 AM »
As long as we can call it Aspiring Authors.. I will feel right at home then.
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2007, 02:14:24 AM »
Ugh.. good point..
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2007, 02:16:26 AM »
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However, to be eligible for the grant the author must provide a 2000 to 3000 word article for peer review.

Peer review... not at all program like :-? .. how does that work exactly?

I'm not sure yet. Any suggestions?


Sure, cancel peer review. What's the point? Nobody agrees in this discussion. Everyone, survivors, parents, staff have a very unique and VERY different perspective.. let them tell it that way. I just dont get the whole peer review thing. My suggestion? Don't do peer review. I mean where are these articles being published, I still don't get it.. ?
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2007, 02:17:40 AM »
They aren't being published. Its a scholarship programme for aspiring writers. The writer retains control over their intellectual materials. Where it is published is up to them.
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2007, 02:19:21 AM »
Call me stupid, laugh. After you are done, explain to me what a scholarship programme for aspiring writers is.. I still don't get it..? So you are going to go around and say hey I like this post, I want to give you a hundred dollars?
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2007, 02:20:38 AM »
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However, to be eligible for the grant the author must provide a 2000 to 3000 word article for peer review.

Peer review... not at all program like :-? .. how does that work exactly?

I'm not sure yet. Any suggestions?

Sure, cancel peer review. What's the point? Nobody agrees in this discussion. Everyone, survivors, parents, staff have a very unique and VERY different perspective.. let them tell it that way. I just dont get the whole peer review thing. My suggestion? Don't do peer review. I mean where are these articles being published, I still don't get it.. ?


The people reviewing the articles most likely will be friends of mine who are English Professors at major Korean Universities. There is also one poster here on fornits with a Master's Degree in English I'm thinking of inviting into the project if it gathers any steam.
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2007, 02:21:24 AM »
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Call me stupid, laugh. After you are done, explain to me what a scholarship programme for aspiring writers is.. I still don't get it..? So you are going to go around and say hey I like this post, I want to give you a hundred dollars?



no. and I've explained it already. Please reread the thread. Moving along.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2007, 02:23:55 AM »
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However, to be eligible for the grant the author must provide a 2000 to 3000 word article for peer review.

Peer review... not at all program like :-? .. how does that work exactly?

I'm not sure yet. Any suggestions?

Sure, cancel peer review. What's the point? Nobody agrees in this discussion. Everyone, survivors, parents, staff have a very unique and VERY different perspective.. let them tell it that way. I just dont get the whole peer review thing. My suggestion? Don't do peer review. I mean where are these articles being published, I still don't get it.. ?

The people reviewing the articles most likely will be friends of mine who are English Professors at major Korean Universities. There is also one poster here on fornits with a Master's Degree in English I'm thinking of inviting into the project if it gathers any steam.


 ::noway::  ::puke:: Thats just my own personal reaction though, and I don't want you to get the wrong idea maybe I am totally crazy or misunderstanding.. but who cares what some fucking professor has to say? Fuck them. If I rite lice thiss duz it mater? What fucking difference does it make the way I say that I was abused in a private program named XXXX. A poster with a master's degree, I mean that's great for them,  but why would a survivor want to post in the context of being corrected for grammar and spelling when the topic is so much more important than that?
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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2007, 02:27:09 AM »
It is for aspiring writers not finger painting.
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2007, 02:27:48 AM »
Let the fund givers decide who should get the fund.

As to those of you who are criticising about giving out money -  it's not your money, why do you need to worry?  If the providers are happy to give the money out, then I suggest you lot to just shut up and give some constructive criticism, rather than troll around.
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2007, 02:30:03 AM »
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Let the fund givers decide who should get the fund.

As to those of you who are criticising about giving out money -  it's not your money, why do you need to worry?  If the providers are happy to give the money out, then I suggest you lot to just shut up and give some constructive criticism, rather than troll around.


This is a discussion forum to discuss ideas, right? He could of done it behind the scenes he asked for suggestions, I doubt he needs your help defending his idea does he? No I won't shut up, what  a stupid thing to say on the internet!  :rofl:
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2007, 02:32:00 AM »
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It is for aspiring writers not finger painting.


So nobody else finds it strange besides me that a former program staff, wants to pay from their own wallet money to survivors to write stories and be critiqued by his friends? Yeah, I am sure I am not the only one who thinks this is strange. It is patronizing to a level that it makes me angry but that's just me. Put your money back in your wallet, a hundred dollars for a story that causes such pain... what a fucking insult. Especially from where it's coming from. Is this a joke?
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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2007, 02:34:23 AM »
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rather than troll around.


This topic idea is a troll designed to piss off people like me, you see through it because you might be fooled. I on the other hand do that have that luxury..
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