Aspiring Authors Fund

[nimdA]

Far from it being a troll. It is a discussion to discuss the merits of an idea that I've been considering for sometime now.

[Anonymous]

Let the fund givers decide who should get the fund.

As to those of you who are criticising about giving out money -  it's not your money, why do you need to worry?  If the providers are happy to give the money out, then I suggest you lot to just shut up and give some constructive criticism, rather than troll around.

This is a discussion forum to discuss ideas, right? He could of done it behind the scenes he asked for suggestions, I doubt he needs your help defending his idea does he? No I won't shut up, what  a stupid thing to say on the internet!  :rofl:

That would be *have*, FYI.

He asked for ideas - most people I know would interpret that to be constructive criticism.  Not about who is giving out money and whether you should be giving out money or not - I don't think that's any of our business..

[Anonymous]

Let the fund givers decide who should get the fund.

As to those of you who are criticising about giving out money -  it's not your money, why do you need to worry?  If the providers are happy to give the money out, then I suggest you lot to just shut up and give some constructive criticism, rather than troll around.

This is a discussion forum to discuss ideas, right? He could of done it behind the scenes he asked for suggestions, I doubt he needs your help defending his idea does he? No I won't shut up, what  a stupid thing to say on the internet!  :rofl:

That would be *have*, FYI.

He asked for ideas - most people I know would interpret that to be constructive criticism.  Not about who is giving out money and whether you should be giving out money or not - I don't think that's any of our business..

 Unsolicited spelling advice.. wow.. I bet your great at parties.. "most people I know"... yes you don't know me, thank god for that. Why butt into this were you lonely tonight? Ill talk to you too if you want..

[Anonymous]

See.. me and TSW had a rhythm now you messed up the beat...

[Anonymous]

Far from it being a troll. It is a discussion to discuss the merits of an idea that I've been considering for sometime now.

I am answering 100% honestly.. raise your hand if you want me to make shit up... I know guest wishes I did.. I dont hate you I wish you posted more. I liked ideas...tjeu taste like bacon!

[Anonymous]

Let the fund givers decide who should get the fund.

As to those of you who are criticising about giving out money -  it's not your money, why do you need to worry?  If the providers are happy to give the money out, then I suggest you lot to just shut up and give some constructive criticism, rather than troll around.

This is a discussion forum to discuss ideas, right? He could of done it behind the scenes he asked for suggestions, I doubt he needs your help defending his idea does he? No I won't shut up, what  a stupid thing to say on the internet!  :rofl:

That would be *have*, FYI.

He asked for ideas - most people I know would interpret that to be constructive criticism.  Not about who is giving out money and whether you should be giving out money or not - I don't think that's any of our business..

I suppose it's only polite to respond in kind with some unsolicited advice? (while I wait for TSW to respond)

If you are going to troll program survivors, use something other than the intellectual shame. Because we have seen much darker, much sinister forms of shame that you might only dream about, so this only makes us laugh at your novice shaming abilities (this is a good thing though!) We on the other hand have learned first hand the dark tools of emotional manipulation so to play on the internet is like watching football when you yearn to play on the field, it is.. boring. So if you are going to troll survivors, watch TSW, and learn.. he's pretty damn good. But shaming us... you have no idea how laughable that is.. or maybe you do and are just looking for old kicks.. understandble.

[nimdA]

Doing a quick google search confirmed my suspicions. Several of the scholarships I looked at require essays. Back in my own university days when I applied for scholarships I more often than not needed to write some sort of essay.

Hand in a piece of shit essay.

no scholarship.

So to further revise and refine the idea:

This will be a Scholarship Fund for Program survivors. An essay will be required, along with attendance at a University or technical school.

I think I will stick to the same selection criterion for the aspiring writers fund with a essay of 1000 to 1500 words.


Now my question is a follows:

What sort of dollar amount is going to work better?

4 scholarships of 250 dollars or 2 scholarships of 500 or 1 scholarship of 1000 dollars?

For this year there is a limit on the amount of money I have avaliable to work with.

Also my next question:

Should it be limited to Three Springs Survivors or all program survivors both public and private?

[Anonymous]

I think you should limit it only to Three Spring Survivors.

[Oz girl]

I think it is an idea with  merit. The problem to me is that writing is an activity that is solitary and free. Getting published is as much abotu whether the magazine/ publisher wants to take you on board as anything else. Otherwise blogs are free. Slef publishing is also reasonably inexpensive.
instead of putting money toward something as narrow and specific as a writers fund, i would put it toward a grant or fund which helps with the living expenses of say being a student. Afterall you hear of many kids whose parents disown them and have nanna foot the bill of college fees or who get the loans necessary but no parental help at all.

I would also consider giving if it were a grant to help kids just generally get set up with a rental bond and a few weeks groceies if they are victims of an exit plan. i think it is great that you are thinking about sucha think though aaron

It should be available to any program survivors

[Anonymous]

Doing a quick google search confirmed my suspicions. Several of the scholarships I looked at require essays. Back in my own university days when I applied for scholarships I more often than not needed to write some sort of essay.

Hand in a piece of shit essay.

no scholarship.

So to further revise and refine the idea:

This will be a Scholarship Fund for Program survivors. An essay will be required, along with attendance at a University or technical school.

I think I will stick to the same selection criterion for the aspiring writers fund with a essay of 1000 to 1500 words.


Now my question is a follows:

What sort of dollar amount is going to work better?

4 scholarships of 250 dollars or 2 scholarships of 500 or 1 scholarship of 1000 dollars?

For this year there is a limit on the amount of money I have avaliable to work with.

Also my next question:

Should it be limited to Three Springs Survivors or all program survivors both public and private?

You should also make sure they have at least a 3.0 GPA. Obviously a drug test should be required. Pre-registration background check for criminal activity should be required also. You can't have just any dumb kid writing these things.

[nimdA]

No I believe an essay will satisfactory.

[Anonymous]

Admit it, this idea sucks.

[nimdA]

I think it is an idea with  merit. The problem to me is that writing is an activity that is solitary and free. Getting published is as much abotu whether the magazine/ publisher wants to take you on board as anything else. Otherwise blogs are free. Slef publishing is also reasonably inexpensive.
instead of putting money toward something as narrow and specific as a writers fund, i would put it toward a grant or fund which helps with the living expenses of say being a student. Afterall you hear of many kids whose parents disown them and have nanna foot the bill of college fees or who get the loans necessary but no parental help at all.

I would also consider giving if it were a grant to help kids just generally get set up with a rental bond and a few weeks groceies if they are victims of an exit plan. i think it is great that you are thinking about sucha think though aaron

It should be available to any program survivors

Umm I believe you will find the focus of the fund has changed somewhat in the last page or so.

No longer a grant whatever it was and now its a scholarship fund.

I like the idea of an exit plan that you are proposing, but it is just not my focus at this time. I'd be willing to donate to such a fund if someone else wanted to go ahead with it.

[Anonymous]

I just think its creepy that an ex staff from a program wants to reach out and try to find survivors from the program you said yourself you abused kids at, and then offer them money for stories? If that happened to me I would be more than creeped out. I would seriously wonder about why the ex-staff person is doing it.. if anything you should avoid the program you worked at if for no other reason than to avoid further trauma to the kids you might have abused (from their perspective especially). I find this whole idea very creepy to say the least. I mean no offense but your hands have "program blood" on them, for a survivor to accept money from you, well at least, it would really make me second guess myself and so I wouldn't do it purely on those grounds. I don't take money from hands that so wholly and physically represent this corrupt and painful industry. This is all just too weird... I think it's a bad idea, for survivors, because look where the money is coming from. I hate to make the sue scheff comparison, but damn its close, accept person reasons aren't profit they are guilt... come on and bash me tsw club, but I know he can take it. this is what I see...

[Anonymous]

I just think its creepy that an ex staff from a program wants to reach out and try to find survivors from the program you said yourself you abused kids at, and then offer them money for stories? If that happened to me I would be more than creeped out. I would seriously wonder about why the ex-staff person is doing it.. if anything you should avoid the program you worked at if for no other reason than to avoid further trauma to the kids you might have abused (from their perspective especially). I find this whole idea very creepy to say the least. I mean no offense but your hands have "program blood" on them, for a survivor to accept money from you, well at least, it would really make me second guess myself and so I wouldn't do it purely on those grounds. I don't take money from hands that so wholly and physically represent this corrupt and painful industry. This is all just too weird... I think it's a bad idea, for survivors, because look where the money is coming from. I hate to make the sue scheff comparison, but damn its close, accept person reasons aren't profit they are guilt... come on and bash me tsw club, but I know he can take it. this is what I see...

This post screams program staff mentality all over it. Where were you staff or junior staff at?


TSW:

Here is some long overdue constructive criticism. I like your original idea better than the scholarship. But I think rather than just having it be survivor stories why don't you do it for any sort of writing?

If your intention is to foster and encourage writers then this purpose would be served.

think on it. I know I'd participate if you set it up like this.

One thing I really do like is your insistence on quality. My program was all to focused "character" education. Its refreshing to see someone willing to go out on a limb to encourage survivors, but even more so to encourage the to live up to higher measure. I wouldn't accept some poorly written post if I was in your shoes. It defeats the entire purpose of offering grants for people to improve their writing.

Just don't go all staffie on us and keep raising the mark. Try to keep it as consistent as possible.