Joe Gauld... on Education

[Ursus]

Sorry, Surfer Mouse, but here's another one...  :lol:

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http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2005/ ... 5.h24.html
Education Week
Vol. 24, Issue 21, Page 42
Published: February 2, 2005

LETTER
Cheating Denies Students the 'Power of Integrity'

To the Editor:

I appreciate Joan F. Goodman's deeply thoughtful Commentary, "How Bad Is Cheating?" (Jan. 5, 2005). But it is painful to observe a dedicated teacher struggling to teach the very basics of character to a supposedly educated society.

Yes, cheating is unfair to others, but unless the underlying attitude is effectively addressed, my 53 years as a teacher says it will seriously cripple what the cheater could and should accomplish in life.

Even ancients like Heraclitus understood that “character is destiny.” And character development begins with a deep appreciation of the power of integrity, which any form of cheating or lying denies.

Without intervention, our ego inevitably seeks shortcuts to success like cheating. But at a deeper level within ourselves, our conscience knows the true path of our destiny, which our pursuit of the truth and desire to “do the right thing” empowers us to follow, enabling us to transcend our lesser ego desires in the process.

While everyday golfers may sometimes cheat, the great ones never do. Why? Because they know cheating would short-circuit their most powerful energies of integrity and conscience, and under pressure, they would never make that tournament-winning putt when they needed to.

It is tragic that we are obviously failing to teach the majority of American students this most critical lesson about life.

Joseph W. Gauld
Founder of Hyde Schools
The Hyde Foundation
Bath, Maine

[Surfer Mouse]

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:10 am    

"Oh, I'll take the Comic Books!"

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Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:12 am

Sorry, Surfer Mouse, but here's another one...
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This is very concerning.

I suppose next you will say that its not a problem ...
that you can stop any time you want, but that you just
don't feel like stopping right now?


 :scared:

[Ursus]

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:10 am    

"Oh, I'll take the Comic Books!"

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Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:12 am

Sorry, Surfer Mouse, but here's another one...
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This is very concerning.

I suppose next you will say that its not a problem ...
that you can stop any time you want, but that you just
don't feel like stopping right now?


 :scared:

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
The two minute interval stemmed from my having the second post prepped and ready to go, and deciding at the last minute to respond to your earlier comment.

The excessive volume of Joe Gauld's take on education stems from my starting this thread to post, and leave room to folks to comment on, excessive volumes of Joe Gauld's take on education.  At least such as I have been able to find recently.   :lol:  

And, mmm... I don't feel like stopping just yet!  :wink:

[Ursus]

In February of 2005, CEDU/Rocky Mountain Academy closed.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=8236
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/ced ... 50210.html

In March of 2005, CEDU declared Bankruptcy, abruptly.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewforum.php?f=11
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... index.html

Joe Gauld jumped into the fray of the aftermath, and submitted this piece to Lon Woodbury's StrugglingTeens site (Lon, incidentally, got his start in the business at RMA).

Would that the title of this piece were true, or even accurately reflective of Gauld's mindset.  I'm beginning to think that one of the reasons Gauld appears to align himself more with kids than their parents is that he considers many of the parental generation to be of those "sloppy hippy progressive ilk," and that there is still hope that he can mold the younger set into fine upstanding Republicans!  Ha Ha!

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http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... 50415.html
Posted April 15, 2005

Fix Parents, Not Kids
Joseph W. Gauld
Founder of Hyde Schools,
Bath, ME 04530
207-443-7381
jgauld@hyde.edu

The difficulties of the therapeutic school industry, highlighted by the bankruptcy of Browne Schools Inc., were inevitable.

Simply put, therapeutic schools were designed to "fix" the off-track kid. After founding four character-based schools, I've learned the real solution is to "fix" the families.

The Browne Schools were essentially closed by disgruntled parents who had expected educators to transform their kids without changing the kids' parents and families. This amazing naiveté reflects a national attitude, and a society oblivious to the tragic decline in the overall quality of American childrearing.

Over my 53 years as a teacher, I've seen parents' expectations for their children's futures steadily rise, but the quality of their preparation of children to realize such higher expectations steadily decline.

Once today's kids hit adolescence, many experience the tension caused by this wide gap between expectation and preparation. This leads them to escape the tension through drugs, sex, acting out and other off-track behaviors. The present rehabilitation focus on kids and not families simply encourages kids to remain child-like, feeding a Peter Pan syndrome.

Character development is the foundation for preparing kids to realize high expectations in life. Character is primarily taught by parents-and primarily by their example. Parents today must come to realize the vital character foundation they provide children simply by how they live.

Adolescence is the ultimate challenge to help teenagers realize the deeper intellectual, emotional and spiritual potentials they need to meet high expectations and live an exceptional life. The metaphor for human adolescence is nature forcing the caterpillar to develop strong enough wings to break out of its cocoon-which in turn enables it to fly as a butterfly.

The American family today is a slowly weakening cocoon.

American parents today often value harmonious family relationships above challenging their teenagers' best.

At our Hyde Schools, in which our primary focus is developing character for life, we require parents to participate in a rigorous program that addresses parental growth and family issues on a regular basis. Our formula is simple; if we succeed with parents, we know we will eventually succeed with their kids.

Fortunately, therapeutic schools are slowly learning to focus on parental and family growth to succeed with students. So what can our society learn from their difficulties? What about the vast number of off-track students in America who simply can't afford therapeutic schools?

The problem-and its solution-lies in strengthening their parents and families.

We Americans have a choice. We can continue to ignore the decline in American childrearing, and simply tolerate the millions of high school drop outs and other off-track kids. Or we can find the courage to revolutionize American education by helping parents become its primary teachers and the home its primary classroom, and thus offer every child a real opportunity to realize one's high expectations in life.

[Anonymous]

Adolescence is the ultimate challenge to help teenagers realize the deeper intellectual, emotional and spiritual potentials they need to meet high expectations and live an exceptional life. The metaphor for human adolescence is nature forcing the caterpillar to develop strong enough wings to break out of its cocoon-which in turn enables it to fly as a butterfly.

The American family today is a slowly weakening cocoon.

ahhh shit...
not the larval metamorphasis, again... ::stab::

[Anonymous]

CEDU declared Bankruptcy, abruptly.....

Joe Gauld jumped into the fray of the aftermath, and submitted this piece.....

Well he sure doesnt waste any oppurtunity to "x-pound"!

 ::bangin::  ::bangin::  ::bangin::  ::bangin::  ::bangin::  ::bangin::  ::bangin::

[Anonymous]

Adolescence is the ultimate challenge to help teenagers realize the deeper intellectual, emotional and spiritual potentials they need to meet high expectations and live an exceptional life. The metaphor for human adolescence is nature forcing the caterpillar to develop strong enough wings to break out of its cocoon-which in turn enables it to fly as a butterfly.

The American family today is a slowly weakening cocoon.

ahhh shit...
not the larval metamorphasis, again... ::stab::

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Metamorphosis

 No more metamorphosis for me thanks

[Anonymous]

We Americans have a choice. We can continue to ignore the decline in American childrearing, and simply tolerate the millions of high school drop outs and other off-track kids. Or we can find the courage to revolutionize American education by helping parents become its primary teachers and the home its primary classroom, and thus offer every child a real opportunity to realize one's high expectations in life.

I love false dichotomies.   Let me tell you right now, you have two choices: Believe everything that Joe Gauld says or have sex with your mother, kill your father and then poke your eyes out with knitting needles.(talk about an off track kid)

Do what I say right now or western culture will disintegrate.  It was a joke 30 years ago, it is still a joke although not as funny now.

[Surfer Mouse]

"Once today's kids hit adolescence, many experience the tension caused by this wide gap between expectation and preparation. This leads them to escape the tension through drugs, sex, acting out and other off-track behaviors."
“Adolescence is the ultimate challenge to help teenagers realize the deeper intellectual, emotional and spiritual potentials they need to meet high expectations and live an exceptional life.”
"At our Hyde Schools, in which our primary focus is developing character for life, we require parents to participate in a rigorous program that addresses parental growth and family issues on a regular basis."
"Fortunately, therapeutic schools are slowly learning to focus on parental and family growth to succeed with students."
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By any accepted definition what Joe Gauld  and the Hyde School program engage in is called family therapy.  By using the label of “Educator” Joe Gauld presents his views and approach as unique and important contributions to the field of education, and feels he can operate completely free from the professional standards, accepted therapeutic approaches, and generally accepted views of the field of Family Therapy and the American Psychological Association.  If he were to be practicing as a “Family Therapist” and a part of that field, his approach and views would have to compete in the larger market place of therapeutic approaches and be subject to professional peer comment and evaluation and review.  I seriously doubt if he would be able to claim such high standing under those circumstances as he tries to present as an “Educator”. By operating under the label of “Educator” he conveniently avoids accountability  for his actions in accordance to accepted professional and ethical standards for the American Psychological Association. He is able to avoid having complaints filed against him to the state licensing board by current and former “clients”.  You would not want you  pet’s veterinarian act as your child’s primary care physician and your  “Educator” should not act as your family therapist.  To say "Once today's kids hit adolescence, many experience the tension caused by this wide gap between expectation and preparation. This leads them to escape the tension through drugs, sex, acting out and other off-track behaviors." does not make it a fact or truth just because it comes from the mouth of Joe Gauld. Is there specific research Joe Gauld cites to back up this view? What data does he cite? What alternative views or additional  factors may be contributing to these difficulties? Joe Gauld does not need to be bothered with details like that.  He has  his experience of  “ 53 years as a teacher”. That’s all the credentials he needs in order for people to take  his views taken as literal truth, not to be questioned.  Even the most fervent religious preachers  lay claim to the authority of the Bible or state that God has spoken to them in divine revelation! In Joe Gauld’s world, HE is divine revelation.  He is God. And as we all know that  questioning God’s word is blasphemy, punishable by trial before  the “Spanish Inquisition” or excommunication.   Joe Gauld  uses the bully pulpit of Hyde School as his platform to  prostalitize his views as a self proclaimed expert on every conceivable subject from adolescent development, family values, and  the state of moral decay in the United States. We should be thankful that in spite of his megalomaniacal ambitions he only put out a couple of books and a never ending stream of newspaper articles, editorials and such. He could have ended up as a Family Therapist with a TV show . . . like Dr. Phil.

 ::drummer::

[Ursus]

You would not want you pet’s veterinarian act as your child’s primary care physician...

Funny you should say that... as, if I am not mistaken, Veterinary Medicine is precisely the field in which the school physician in the 1970s received his degree in.  Originally.  I think he then took some "refresher courses" to hone his qualifications a bit more.

[Ursus]

He could have ended up as a Family Therapist with a TV show . . . like Dr. Phil.

He certainly harbored aspirations of this sort, he had a Dear-Abby-type column in the Portland Press Herald (?) for awhile there... He used to read his columns at school meetings, not to mention letters other people wrote him seeking his advice...  And then there was "his book," that first one, 91 pages, published by Hyde School, or at least privately by some unknown press, entitled "Courage to Grow."  Many of our confession papers are in there, I've been told, along with accompanying text divining his take on relevant matters.

That said, I am not sure that he would have felt comfortable with the pressure to conform to certain expected standards in TV-Land.  He couldn't have pulled it off, of course, unless he also owned the television station.  

Which leads one to speculate on a corollary, i.e., how he might not have pulled off being an educator either, unless he also owned...

...you get the picture.

[Ursus]

By any accepted definition what Joe Gauld and the Hyde School program engage in is called family therapy. By using the label of “Educator” Joe Gauld presents his views and approach as unique and important contributions to the field of education, and feels he can operate completely free from the professional standards, accepted therapeutic approaches, and generally accepted views of the field of Family Therapy and the American Psychological Association. If he were to be practicing as a “Family Therapist” and a part of that field, his approach and views would have to compete in the larger market place of therapeutic approaches and be subject to professional peer comment and evaluation and review. I seriously doubt if he would be able to claim such high standing under those circumstances as he tries to present as an “Educator”. By operating under the label of “Educator” he conveniently avoids accountability for his actions in accordance to accepted professional and ethical standards for the American Psychological Association.

This is absolutely dead-on bull's eye TRUE.  What can be done about this?  Has anyone actually tried to sue him for providing therapy services without a license?

[Ursus]

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2006/ ... 1.h25.html
Education Week
Vol. 25, Issue 29, Page 42
Published: March 29, 2006

LETTER
Economics, Knowledge, and the Keys to Success

To the Editor:

I began reading "The Exaggerated Dropout Crisis" (Commentary, March 8, 2006) with great hope. Perhaps we Americans are doing better at graduating our students than we have been led to believe.

Then I was stunned by the blithe opening premise of Lawrence Mishel's exposé: "Knowledge is becoming more important in the economy, and 'returns to skill'—higher wages for workers with more education—should be growing."

Are we supposed to accept that this thing called "knowledge," apparently owned by those with "more education," is the key to success in industry, at least monetarily? And that other factors, such as one's character, attitude, and effort, and even on-the-job training don't count?

Many studies say otherwise. For example, research sponsored by AT&T found that, among its managers, "those who had higher scholastic-aptitude scores upon graduation from college were reliably less happy and more psychologically maladjusted by their mid-adult years" than those with lower scores.

Are we to believe these less-happy, more-maladjusted, but yet more "knowledgeable" managers still made more money than their happier, better-adjusted, but less knowledgeable colleagues? Don't such studies tell us that there must be other, more powerful factors than what passes for knowledge that determine success in industry and in life?

It seems to me that Mr. Mishel's argument was reduced to "my assumptions in determining dropouts are better than your assumptions."

Joseph W. Gauld
Founder of Hyde Schools
President
Hyde Foundation
Bath, Maine

[Anonymous]

In February of 2005, CEDU/Rocky Mountain Academy closed.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=8236
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/ced ... 50210.html

In March of 2005, CEDU declared Bankruptcy, abruptly.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewforum.php?f=11
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... index.html

Joe Gauld jumped into the fray of the aftermath, and submitted this piece to Lon Woodbury's StrugglingTeens site (Lon, incidentally, got his start in the business at RMA).

Would that the title of this piece were true, or even accurately reflective of Gauld's mindset.  I'm beginning to think that one of the reasons Gauld appears to align himself more with kids than their parents is that he considers many of the parental generation to be of those "sloppy hippy progressive ilk," and that there is still hope that he can mold the younger set into fine upstanding Republicans!  Ha Ha!

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http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... 50415.html
Posted April 15, 2005



Joe Gauld loves to spin out this nice sounding rhetoric about how Hyde "fixes" families by putting families through a rigorous family growth program.  Hyde's family seminars are pretty close to pure BS.  Many parents admit outside the seminar room that they merely play the game and go through the motions.  Hyde staff's grasp of family dynamics and family growth is about as sophisticated as a 4th grader's understanding of the universe.  Joe Gauld is completely delusional if he thinks that those superficial seminars really make fundamental changes in families.  There may be occasional good moments, but I guarantee you that most Hyde families make few if any significant changes in their lives because of those occasional seminars run by people who are, maybe, one chapter ahead.  During the years I've been going to Hyde I saw families continue to display some of the most twisted and pathological thinking and behavior I've ever encountered, despite those scripted conversations and silly exercises in the seminars.  Keep dreaming, Joe.  Most of us realize you're full of it and have barely made a dent in America's educational system, despite your narcissistic claims and grandstanding.

[Ursus]

Joe Gauld loves to spin out this nice sounding rhetoric about how Hyde "fixes" families by putting families through a rigorous family growth program.  Hyde's family seminars are pretty close to pure BS.  Many parents admit outside the seminar room that they merely play the game and go through the motions.  Hyde staff's grasp of family dynamics and family growth is about as sophisticated as a 4th grader's understanding of the universe.  Joe Gauld is completely delusional if he thinks that those superficial seminars really make fundamental changes in families.  There may be occasional good moments, but I guarantee you that most Hyde families make few if any significant changes in their lives because of those occasional seminars run by people who are, maybe, one chapter ahead.  During the years I've been going to Hyde I saw families continue to display some of the most twisted and pathological thinking and behavior I've ever encountered, despite those scripted conversations and silly exercises in the seminars.  Keep dreaming, Joe.  Most of us realize you're full of it and have barely made a dent in America's educational system, despite your narcissistic claims and grandstanding.

Could you describe for some of us "those scripted conversations and silly exercises in the seminars" that occur during Family Weekends?  My parents did not like to participate in these, and certainly wouldn't tell me what went on anyway; moreover, it appears to have been much simpler decades ago.  

During my time, Family Weekends were mostly Seminars/Discovery Groups where kids and their parents participated in the same session.  Whatever went on in the parents-only session I never heard about.  Somewhere along the line they started incorporating certain gimmicks, if you will.  I'm getting the impression that these are supposed to be analogous to a therapeutic version of a ropes course, sans the ropes of course (maybe someone might hang themselves, ha!).