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Joe Gauld... on Education

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Ursus:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---All the kids/parents that are going to be part of the class were screwed up before they got there. You are not going to find that the Virgin Mary went to Hyde and was gang raped by Gaulds. You are going to be in a very grey area.
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I respectfully beg to differ.  What kind of "screwed up" are you talking about?  Are you saying that kids who went to Hyde because Hyde told their parents that they could cure their kids' low self-esteem are "screwed up?"  Yeah, I guess in some petty sense they are, but what happened to a lot of those kids made their situation even worse.  Or what about the kids who thought Hyde was a "normal" prep school, since Hyde markets itself according to who they're pitching to?  Those circumstances aside, I still don't think you can consider Hyde's responsibility to be any less in those cases where kids already had a checkered past, didn't have a good outcome at Hyde, and feel damaged as a result of their time at Hyde.

Mind you, we're not talking about whether a kid's delinquent behavior continued or not.  We're talking about sustained psychological damage as a result of inept, incompetent, and unlicensed therapists running amok with kids' self-identities.  I also find Surfer Mouse's use of the term "client abandonment" most apropos.

Surfer Mouse:
How does Hyde School handle Federal special Education regulations
that are covered by the Americans with Disability Act?
Do students who had previous Special Education services and
Individualized Education Plans (IEP’s) in previous school placements get new
updated  ones at Hyde. Does the regional Special Education Director for Maine
monitor Hyde’s compliance  with Special Education regulations? Do Hyde parents
have the ability to attend and give input to the design and content of  their child’s
IEP? How does Hyde’s program function the way it does and still be in compliance with
Federal Special Education standards and the Americans with Disabilities Act?

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---All the kids/parents that are going to be part of the class were screwed up before they got there. You are not going to find that the Virgin Mary went to Hyde and was gang raped by Gaulds. You are going to be in a very grey area.
--- End quote ---

I respectfully beg to differ.  What kind of "screwed up?"  Are you saying that kids who went to Hyde because Hyde told their parents that they could cure their kids' low self-esteem are "screwed up?"  Yeah, I guess in some petty sense they are, but what happened to a lot of those kids made their situation even worse.  Or what about the kids who thought Hyde was a "normal" prep school, since Hyde markets itself according to who they're pitching to?  Those circumstances aside, I still don't think you can consider Hyde's responsibility to be any less in those cases where kids already have a checkered past, don't have a good outcome at Hyde, and feel damaged as a result.

Mind you, we're not talking about whether a kid's delinquent behavior continued or not.  We're talking about sustained psychological damage as a result of inept, incompetent, and unlicensed therapists running amok with kids' self-identities.  I also find Surfer Mouse's use of the term "client abandonment" most intriguing.
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  Image you are on stand.  How would you differentiate your esteem issues from the damage done by Hyde?

Anonymous:
Triggers.  Didn't have them before Hyde.  Have them ever since Hyde.  They get in the way of normal functioning in life.  Certain things I can not do, can not participate in...  I have learned that it's just not worth it.  Too much potential for self-destruction.
Emotional Paralysis.  I totally shut down when I'm face to face with verbal or physical aggression.  Cannot defend myself for the life of me.  Much easier to  defend others, however.  Obviously, circumstances are somewhat different on the forum.
Needless to say, I chose my friends very very very carefully.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Emotional Paralysis.  I totally shut down when I'm face to face with verbal or physical aggression.  Cannot defend myself for the life of me.  Much easier to  defend others, however.  Obviously, circumstances are somewhat different on the forum.
Needless to say, I chose my friends very very very carefully.
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Is your temporary sense of helplessness in the face of aggression on account of a conscious allegiance to the aggressor? Do you feel that the aggressor is justified in his aggression? Is this the lesson of Hyde? Just trying to understand the connection between the problem and Hyde.

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