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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #405 on: June 27, 2007, 08:37:41 PM »
One more thing I forgot to add, was that I don't see a time frame from school to school, which they omitted.  Additionally, I know it takes a lot before a child is expelled from one of the schools.

With that said, I use ducttape.
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« Reply #406 on: June 27, 2007, 08:39:15 PM »
It's also public record.  You can get it directly from the clerk of the court.
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« Reply #407 on: June 27, 2007, 08:40:29 PM »
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It appears that parents has had their share of problems, and to speculate as to why five programs would not be fair, although they do make an effort to explain why.  Frankly, I don't see any difference between putting your child in one program or five, the fact that you have to put your child in any program in the first place is terrible enough.  From their posts, it appears they were grasping at straws and being misinformed from all ends.  I can't tell you how many parents I know who were confused, and had their kids at more than one program for many different reasons, and it doesn't mean that they were all bad reasons.  Everyone's situation is different.

What I have learned is that these programs are not a one size fits all, they are not all safe, if any, and you still get the same kids back, sometimes.  I was recently told my child may have PDSD, which the therapist hasn't really diagnosed yet.  I can't change what has happened, I can only try to move forward.


Parent, you are right about one thing.  You can not change the damage done to your child (PTSD) by your own negligence as a parent but you can get him/her the help they need and deserve.  I'm sorry, but in my mind, there is a difference between having to suffer through 1 program and 5.  That poor kid needs to be rescued from his program(s) and his parents.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #408 on: June 27, 2007, 08:41:58 PM »
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It's also public record.  You can get it directly from the clerk of the court.

http://www.isaccorp.org/wwasps/wwaspsvpure.pdf

I'm just annotating the thing with additional links and information about certain key characters in the case, and their associations elsewhere.

the page numbers i'm referring to are the actual page numbers in the bottom right of the scanned document, and not the PDF page.

edit: gone to see Die Hard 4.  Be back online tomorrow
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« Reply #409 on: June 27, 2007, 08:48:53 PM »
I would still have to say to look at the time frames, could be 5 in 5 months, 5 in 10, would make no difference then would it if it were 1 in 2 years, don't you think?  Just thinking out loud.  And they do say that they were not aware of the abuse and when confronted with it, immediately moved the child to what they thought was a safer program.  I know that will be attacked, I am just trying to see both sides.
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« Reply #410 on: June 27, 2007, 09:11:40 PM »
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I would still have to say to look at the time frames, could be 5 in 5 months, 5 in 10, would make no difference then would it if it were 1 in 2 years, don't you think?  Just thinking out loud.  And they do say that they were not aware of the abuse and when confronted with it, immediately moved the child to what they thought was a safer program.  I know that will be attacked, I am just trying to see both sides.


The kid was KICKED OUT of some of these programs (Obsidian and Midwest) and immediately replaced so err ... you may want to stop speculating and pay attention to the facts.

Nice try though.  :roll:
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« Reply #411 on: June 27, 2007, 09:25:06 PM »
I am paying attention, maybe you should.  Kicked out of Midwest and Sorensons.  Why be so nasty about it?
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« Reply #412 on: June 27, 2007, 09:26:42 PM »
By the way, Obsidian was closed down about 7 years ago for Racketeering and extorsion, not to mention the deaths that happened under Greg Boddenheimer.  Yah, back in control my ass.
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« Reply #413 on: June 27, 2007, 09:29:54 PM »
With that in mind, that would mean the kids been in programs for 7 years, cause he's still at RRCS?  Pay attention.
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« Reply #414 on: June 27, 2007, 09:36:27 PM »
Correction:  5 years closed down.
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« Reply #415 on: June 27, 2007, 09:55:45 PM »
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I am paying attention, maybe you should.  Kicked out of Midwest and Sorensons.  Why be so nasty about it?


Thought you said the kid set a fire at Obsidian?  If he wasn't kicked out he should have been for the safety of the other children and himself.

As for being nasty ... what can I say?  It's not like you and this bullshit doesn't stink to high heaven.

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« Reply #416 on: June 27, 2007, 09:59:45 PM »
You know, this is just banter now.  Go back and re-read.  Sent to Obsidian for setting a hillside on fire, or something like that.  I am not doing your homework for you.
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« Reply #417 on: June 27, 2007, 10:00:59 PM »
Since we are discussing the pure and caca, and the people who think they are so great, they who think so much of the Whitmore Ranch.
I found this articule.  I would not entrust any being with the folks mentioned. This is only my opinion, but possibly you ought to do some research, if they would stick up for the people who would do this, has none of my trust.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2001/02/ ... 10227.html
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« Reply #418 on: June 27, 2007, 10:09:14 PM »
Wow, I am an animal rights activist, but comparing livestock to our kids?
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« Reply #419 on: June 27, 2007, 10:13:00 PM »
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Wow, I am an animal rights activist, but comparing livestock to our kids?


Animal abuse like child abuse which is what Cheryl Sudweeks (Whitmore Academy) plead no contest to is disgusting.

And btw, izzie, scheffie or abusive guest parent, animals like children, have rights, so STFU.
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