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Offline Sandy

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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #915 on: July 21, 2007, 08:42:26 PM »
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Sandy, you may do not be able to  hope for confidentialty or integrity from Izzy.  Hope you will disclose the name of the transport company she tried to refer your family to.  Save those emails, or you may be called a "liar."


Oh, I have EVERY email she ever sent me and I am going to read back through them to find the name of the transport company.  It'll take me awhile since there are so many emails but I will disclose the name when I find it.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #916 on: July 21, 2007, 08:55:59 PM »
IMO,

Izzy and the word "integrity" do not go together.  Just ask Catherine Sutton who had to go so far as to demand Izzy remove her daughter's name and picture from her website when she learned of Izzy's relationship with Sue Scheff and Gayle Palmer DeGraff (the woman responsible for Suttons' daughter's tortuous death in a wilderness therapy program).

Shame on you Isabelle.  You are beneath contempt using people without their permission, knowledge or conset to further your self-serving agenda.

Don't play coy.  We know you read your email as often as you apparently read Fornits which is at least once a day.

 :rofl:
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #917 on: July 22, 2007, 10:47:01 AM »
Well goddam, seems this forum has been instrumental in letting the fat cat out of the bag, so to speak...

It certainly is great to see a liar exposed & the truth come to light!
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #918 on: July 22, 2007, 04:54:02 PM »
Sandy, I hope you post the emails.
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« Reply #919 on: July 22, 2007, 08:29:39 PM »
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Sandy, I hope you post the emails.


Seconded.
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« Reply #920 on: July 23, 2007, 12:04:09 AM »
Haven't found the name of the transport company yet, I'm beginning to think Isabelle said it in one of the many phone calls.  I know she mentioned a company & a man's name, one that she claimed she had done business with in the past and trusted.    Below is part of an email, due to not wanting to disclose family names, I have altered their names but that was it.  
 
____________________________________________________________
{We have all discussed the situation and have come up with a plan we'd like to run by you. When you
 ask the judge for "C" to bring "D" back into this country is there any way we can ask that
 she be transported, at "C"'s expense, by a transport company of my choosing (I work with these
 companies that transport kids in and out of Jamaica) and that I be appointed "D"s Advocate and
 Temporary Guarding from the time she lands in Texas from Jamaica until the hearing.  }
____________________________________________________________
Thank God that we didn't use the transport company and did not give Isabelle "guardianship".  A totally crazy time.  

She has threatened me with her "lawyers" since I demanded she take my Myspace comment off her websites. I say "bring it on".  Anything I post, I can/will back up.  Most everyone here knows my "family situation" so if she posts what should have been confidential, it's actually already open record and public info. Anyone has access if they want to dig.
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Sandy ARE YOUR PANTS ON FIRE???
« Reply #921 on: July 23, 2007, 12:13:50 AM »
Sandy,
This is crap and you know it.  Isabelle does not refer to programs or transport companies.  

You are inventing this to cover up the fact that you have been through the emails and there is not one that refers you to a transport co.

Tell how "D" was brought back to the states.
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Re: Sandy ARE YOUR PANTS ON FIRE???
« Reply #922 on: July 23, 2007, 12:18:07 AM »
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Sandy,
This is crap and you know it.  Isabelle does not refer to programs or transport companies.  

You are inventing this to cover up the fact that you have been through the emails and there is not one that refers you to a transport co.

Tell how "D" was brought back to the states.


Isabelle,
You want answers, post under your name and NOT "guest".  
I have not "invented" anything, it's in your email you sent to me.
Until you have the guts to post under your own name, don't ask me questions.  I don't answer "guest" questions, which I have previously states weeks ago.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #923 on: July 23, 2007, 12:26:40 AM »
Why would Sandy lie?
Sandy just posted part of the email.  It seems that Sandy has the right to use initials to protect the identity of her family, doesn't it?

Isabelle Zehnder posted Sandy's private emails in her "Who Is Patti Atwoods?" blog, seemingly without Sandy's permission.

Isabelle Zehnder is now threatening Sandy with her "lawyers?"
Why can't Zehnder honor Sandy's request, and remove the material from CAICA?

Stand your ground, Sandy.
Not everyone is afraid of Izzy's legal threats, are they?
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« Reply #924 on: July 23, 2007, 12:28:34 AM »
Izzy does refer to programs and to transports companies.
GIVE IT UP IZZY!!!!!!!!!!!
Time to name names?
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« Reply #925 on: July 23, 2007, 12:29:27 AM »
Sandy,
I'm not Isabelle.  I am a board member of CAICA.  I am well aware of what transpired during the crisis your family experienced.

I didn't ask you a question.  I made the statement for you to tell how "D" was transported to the states.  No question.

You can't find the email because there was not one.

The only time Isabelle has referred a transport co was to get the child OUT of a facility!
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #926 on: July 23, 2007, 12:29:38 AM »
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Haven't found the name of the transport company yet, I'm beginning to think Isabelle said it in one of the many phone calls.  I know she mentioned a company & a man's name, one that she claimed she had done business with in the past and trusted.    Below is part of an email, due to not wanting to disclose family names, I have altered their names but that was it.  
 
____________________________________________________________
{We have all discussed the situation and have come up with a plan we'd like to run by you. When you
 ask the judge for "C" to bring "D" back into this country is there any way we can ask that
 she be transported, at "C"'s expense, by a transport company of my choosing (I work with these
 companies that transport kids in and out of Jamaica) and that I be appointed "D"s Advocate and
 Temporary Guarding from the time she lands in Texas from Jamaica until the hearing.  }
____________________________________________________________
Thank God that we didn't use the transport company and did not give Isabelle "guardianship".  A totally crazy time.  

She has threatened me with her "lawyers" since I demanded she take my Myspace comment off her websites. I say "bring it on".  Anything I post, I can/will back up.  Most everyone here knows my "family situation" so if she posts what should have been confidential, it's actually already open record and public info. Anyone has access if they want to dig.


She threatened you with LAWYERS!?!?  On what grounds?
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« Reply #927 on: July 23, 2007, 12:36:40 AM »
The last email that transpired.  Isabelle needs to get a grip and post under her own name.  No one else would know things that she knows.
____________________________________________________

No, you have ignored my requests and never said you were removing anything.  You, yourself, should know what all websites you post your stuff on.  This needs to be off all of them.
 
Thanks
 


Isabelle Zehnder wrote:
As I have told you, it has been removed from Positive Family Solutions. I've asked you to let me know if it is posted somewhere else.
 
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From: Sandy

That email had NOTHING to do with Patti.
 
Regardless, I want my name OFF your websites.


Isabelle Zehnder wrote:
Hi Sandy,
 
I was copy/pasting the e-mails to/from Patti in My Space and accidentally hit "Reply". It wasn't intended to do anything to you and I was not threatening to post it. I don't understand the position you've taken, and I have never tried to take all credit for anything. In fact, who have I told about D? I've kept this very quiet, it's not my fault they got into your e-mails and figured out who D was.
 
Fact is I spent 5 months helping the family and money I couldn't afford on phone bills, etc. because I wanted to help D The family was headstrong about leaving her there and it wasn't until I talked to ____that she finally agreed to pay the lawyer to get her out.
 
I thought you were my friend and I am sorry that you have taken this the wrong way. I do NOT refer kids to transport companies. I was asked for name of the transport company that another mother used to fly to Jamaica, meet the family (Patti's), drive them to TB, and back to the airport. It was nothing short of a glorified taxi. She told me they did not want to use Jamaican drivers and had plenty of money. I believed her. I had no reason to check the transport company out because he wasn't transporting the child alone, but rather the family.
 
I don't refer kids to programs and only once did a child come through CAICA to Sue because we were in a position where the judge was ordering the kid to another program. Our choice was leave the kid in TB or find another option. I don't refer to programs and the only person I thought I could trust was Sue.
 
At this point frankly I have no idea who I can trust.
 
I'm sorry you have turned your back on me, I thought we were true friends.
 
Love, Isabelle
 
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From: Sandy

I have previously requested that the myspace comment that I posted be removed from ALL your websites.  You did not have permission to use that or post ANY of the emails that transpired.
 
I had previously stated that you helped in MEDIATING in that situation.  With or without your mediation, we would have still brought her home. It amazes me that you take full credit for everything/anything that you try to do.  
 
But in all honesty, which I have not disclosed, you did try to use a transport service.  I did not choose you and quick frankly, after reading tons of info on the internet, I do NOT want to be associated with anyone that does refer/use programs/transport services OR associates with Sue Scheff/PURE or any of the other crap.
 
Not sure WHY you would email me what you did tonight.  Are you threatening to post more on the internet or what?  I very strongly advise against doing so.  I, also, have recourse that you are not aware of and I will also start posting on the internet if that's the route you choose to go.
 
Once again, please remove any posting/email that even remotely has to do with my family.
Thanks

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I will speak to some attorney friends this next week if Isabelle does not remove ALL the free promotion she's using my myspace comment for.  She has removed some, but not all.
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« Reply #928 on: July 23, 2007, 12:39:26 AM »
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Sandy,
I'm not Isabelle.  I am a board member of CAICA.  I am well aware of what transpired during the crisis your family experienced.

I didn't ask you a question.  I made the statement for you to tell how "D" was transported to the states.  No question.

You can't find the email because there was not one.

The only time Isabelle has referred a transport co was to get the child OUT of a facility!


Oh? You're a "Board Member"???  What is your name?  Didn't think that existed.  IF you are an actual person, board members stand behind their own name.  Ask away, ONCE you identify yourself.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #929 on: July 23, 2007, 12:43:14 AM »
lols.. this is getting better than a fish fry with some watermelon and 'shine.
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