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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #870 on: July 03, 2007, 08:47:48 PM »
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LOL now izzy is writing a blog about PARENT POLICE?  

http://parentpolice.blogspot.com/


That BLOG is no longer there.

I wonder why?
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #871 on: July 03, 2007, 09:32:38 PM »
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LOL now izzy is writing a blog about PARENT POLICE?  

http://parentpolice.blogspot.com/

That BLOG is no longer there.

I wonder why?


Either she hasn't finished writing it, or she deleted it soon after posting.  If the latter is the case, I would appreciate it if somebody could email me a copy or post it here (if they have it archived).

Every time I see one of her new blogs, I archive it.  I would recommend anybody else do the same.  I'll post what I have if she makes information dissappear, but i'm only one set of eyes.  I'd appreciate it of other people could help out by either saving the page, or printing to a PDF.
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"Our services are free; we do not make a profit. Parents of troubled teens ourselves, PURE strives to create a safe haven of truth and reality." - Sue Scheff - August 13th, 2007 (fukkin surreal)

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« Reply #872 on: July 05, 2007, 12:55:08 PM »
It's up now.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #873 on: July 05, 2007, 02:26:58 PM »
How many "different ways" can Izzy say she doesn't refer children to programs or to teen escorts services; when SHE DID refer to Sue at PURE, and SHE DID refer to Sunrise Adolescent Transport; and she did admit that SHE arranged the placement of a child in some still un-named program?
Is anyone else bewildered by these continuous blogs?
And who writes their own blogs; and then slaps a disclaimer on their own words?  Doesn't that appear to be saying, "I just wrote all that, but don't believe me?"
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #874 on: July 05, 2007, 02:29:09 PM »
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How many "different ways" can Izzy say she doesn't refer children to programs or to teen escorts services; when SHE DID refer to Sue at PURE, and SHE DID refer to Sunrise Adolescent Transport; and she did admit that SHE arranged the placement of a child in some still un-named program?
Is anyone else bewildered by these continuous blogs?

No, we all know how full of shit she is.


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And who writes their own blogs; and then slaps a disclaimer on their own words?  Doesn't that appear to be saying, "I just wrote all that, but don't believe me?"


Fat assed Izzy who can't keep up with all the changes she needs to make after reading all the posts over here.
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« Reply #875 on: July 05, 2007, 02:51:46 PM »
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This is a buyer beware market. There are no Federal laws in place to protect children who are placed into such programs. There is no governmental oversight.


The above is from her parentpolice blog.

Here is my question for Izzie:

How can you make that statement and then turn around and advocate on behalf of PURE and Scheff?  

Do you realize that when and if the industry ever becomes regulated people like Scheff will be put out of business?  Why? Because she doesn't have the education and training (credentials) to recommend programs.  Sure she had a bad experience with WWASP but that doesn't mean she is qualified to determine what a good program is.  

What she is doing is dangerous.  She is just another example of why the industry needs to be regulated.  She is selling a false since of security to parents.  It is wrong and it needs to be stoped.
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« Reply #876 on: July 05, 2007, 02:53:54 PM »
Just out of curiosity, what "credentials" do Scheff (and Zhender, while we're at it) claim to have?
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« Reply #877 on: July 05, 2007, 02:59:55 PM »
That's just it, they don't have any.  

They are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
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« Reply #878 on: July 05, 2007, 03:27:35 PM »
This is a buyer beware market. There are no Federal laws in place to protect children who are placed into such programs. There is no governmental oversight



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*BUYER BEWARE*
 
Beware my friend of promises made
By those who claim they'll come to your aid.
 
It's the Wilderness Programs I'm speaking of---
But Only those that exclude trust and love.
 
They tell you exactly what you want to hear
When you're desperate and wondering which way to steer.
 
They promise to take our children and teach them to cope
And provide them with tools that will give courage and hope.
 
Many thousands of dollars you'll have to pay---
But the brochure is convincing that this is the way.
 
And it's true; I believe that the concept is good
But they must replace greed with love - would they could.
 
Mother Nature's a great teacher but there must be a guide
One there to lead---who'll show comfort and not chide.
 
So the plight of our children is not a living hell---
Those counselors must know the wilderness and counseling as well.
 
And they must have help available and close by
So no more Michelle's and Kristen's will die.
 
With no regulations or guidelines to use
They can do as they please and have been known to abuse.
 
Yes, Mother Nature's Wilderness beauty abounds
And valuable teaching out there can be found---
 
But let these programs be run by people who care
Who will truly look after our child's welfare?
 
So "buyer beware" Take warning Take heed
Of those programs merely inspired by greed.
 
And speak out those of you who know of the wrongs---
Please don't keep it inside
For the sake of all children who unknowingly come
And for the sake of those who died!
 
Written By:  Sharon Fuqua
Mother of Kristen Chase




Another of Izzy's material borrowed.  Mayhap she read what Mrs. Fuqua was saying.  .......Watch out for fake advocates.
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« Reply #879 on: July 05, 2007, 04:01:41 PM »
Buyer beware has been used by many and is very common in this industry.
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« Reply #880 on: July 05, 2007, 04:32:26 PM »
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 Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: buyer beware  

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"3. Consent to Treatment:

Program Participant and/or Client hereby represents to kids helping kids, a pathway family center that Client has an indicated condition of drug abuse and/or dependency on mood altering drugs and that admission to the kids helping kids, a pathway family center program is appropriate and desirable. ....

http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=208639

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VIRGINIA (September 9, 2006) The "wolves in sheep's clothing" begin with the self-described "parent resource experts" and self-described advocates.  "No one is federally regulating or reigning in these businesses," claims Shelby Earnshaw, who operates International Survivor's Action Committee.

http://www.paulareeves.com/Press_Releas ... leases.htm
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http://www.caica.org/Parents_desperate_for_help.htm
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All the information I list here is public information...
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« Reply #881 on: July 05, 2007, 04:35:17 PM »
Kristen Chase.....1990 Challenger Program
Day 1 ...state Utah.
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« Reply #882 on: July 10, 2007, 03:24:43 AM »
http://www.caica.org/STORIES%20Sue%20Scheff%202.htm


Here is an interesting document out of the mouth of Sue Scheff, on the CACA site

Fraud, misrepresentation, combined with a vulnerable parent can lead to danger for a child in my opinion.

 hope my experiences have saved parents from making the mistake I made in desperation. I am sharing my personal experiences to create awareness about the misrepresentation and fraud I endured. This story was not written out of malice against WWASP (World Wide Association of Specialty Programs), it was written for the principle and morals that they lacked. I think they call it "Accountability". I am accountable for what I have written as being the truth as I experienced it.Some interesting Quotes out of the mouth of Sue, through Izzy.

Well here you got it folks, right out of the horses mouth ::nose::
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« Reply #883 on: July 10, 2007, 10:54:47 AM »
Strange how Sue Scheff can talk about the "misreprenstation and fraud she experienced" by having her daughter referred to what she claims was an abusive WWASP facility in which she placed her daughter--------

YET, when Joyce Harris makes the SAME COMPLAINT: that her daughter was referred to an abusive facility--Whitmore Academy, by Sue Scheff/PURE; this parent received a "cease and desist letter"  from Scheff' attorney, David Pollack, which is posted on the ISAC website.

http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/harrisletter.pdf

Joyce Harris has also been attacked in the "Whitmore Blogs" written by Sue Scheff and Isabelle Zehnder; which are filled with hearsay, allegations, gossip, cartoon character representations of her, etc which are followed by lenghty disclaimers by both Scheff and Zehnder to hold them irresponsible for publishing such attacks.

It does not appear that Ms. Scheff accepts that all citizens are entitled to the same rights she claims and demands for herself.
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« Reply #884 on: July 10, 2007, 11:03:43 AM »
Sue Scheff treats everyone on a sliding scale.

The top of the scale represents the most money she can make off a person.

The bottom of the scale represents the people she can't make any money off of at all.

You threaten the cheddar train and she comes a swinging.
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