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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #750 on: June 29, 2007, 09:48:57 PM »
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 That's right, Folks.  Sue got found out trying to rip WWASP off, and they didn't like that.  


------Original Message------

From: Kevin Richey
To: Ken Kay
Date: August 17, 2001
Subject: Sue Scheff

The last contact I had with Sue was 8 18 (sic 16) she emailed a lead to me. In our last conversation probably last week July she said she thought our programs were good but that our Seminars were terrible. She said she would continue to send referrals to me for Majestic Ranch as she didn't have any other resources for younger kids 7-12. She said she had placed 8 kids that week in Red Cliff or Red Rock not sure which. She asked me to manipulate the referral system and give 2 referrals to her so she wouldn't have to pay Diane Luchetto for 2 referrals that she somehow received from her. She said she had given Diane about 12 referrals. I told her that I couldn't change that information in our computer system and that I didn't feel right about doing it if I could.

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Wow - referring kids to Majestic Ranch huh?  The SAME program Izzy wrote a scathing report about after inserting herself in ISAC's investigation and causing all kinds of havoc?

Way to go Izzy.  Did you happen to mention in this report that your friend and colleague Sue Scheff actually referred to this apparent hellhole?  AFTER starting PURE?  Inquiring minds want to know because you see, it's becoming very clear that Sue Scheff (PURE) continued to refer to WWASPS until apparently, she had some falling out with them over referral fees.  

Now, it's true no one really can know the entire story unless they are Sue or WWASPS, but from reading the documents and other materials posted on the PURE/CAICA forum it looks to me like where there is smoke there is fire.
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« Reply #751 on: June 29, 2007, 09:50:16 PM »
subpena these records...YAH THINK!
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« Reply #752 on: June 29, 2007, 09:50:49 PM »
If anyone is going to sue someone remember the only person to really blame is Lord Xenu.
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« Reply #753 on: June 29, 2007, 09:58:09 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
subpena these records...YAH THINK!


Oh, it will make a hell of a story when I finally get to explain all of what has been going on.  Have a nice life Sue, Izzy.  Say Hi to Lon for me.

Edit: I forgot to mention:

 ::both::
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Benchmark Young Adult School - bad place [archive.org link]
Sue Scheff Truth - Blog on Sue Scheff
"Our services are free; we do not make a profit. Parents of troubled teens ourselves, PURE strives to create a safe haven of truth and reality." - Sue Scheff - August 13th, 2007 (fukkin surreal)

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« Reply #754 on: June 29, 2007, 09:59:52 PM »
Quote from: ""Crash Test Dummy""
Yeah if you are gonna have sympathy for Sandy also have it for her kid. 5 programs and still going strong.... wow... that is alot of programs.


My stepdaughter was in TB ONLY and NEVER was or EVER will be in another one of those places.  You have me confused with someone else.

I believe in keeping the kids at home and working things out.   As far as the email when I mentioned "program", I did NOT mean to ship the poor kid off.  My kids' schools always called what they did "programs".
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« Reply #755 on: June 29, 2007, 10:01:20 PM »
Read em' and weep Izzy, Sandy et al


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From the Utah trial transcripts beginning at page 219:

KEVIN RICHEY TESTIFIES. Kevin is a WWASP/Teen Help referral guru.

Q. How did you first become familiar with Ms. Scheff?

A. She was a referring parent to the programs and work with an associate Randall Hinton. And Randall left to go work at one of the (WWASP) programs, and at that point I started to try to help Sue Scheff.

Q. Tried to help Sue Scheff do what?

A. Well, she would have a lot of referring parents that were coming into program. And I tried to do my best to help her to get paid on the referrals. Basically would be the help that I was offering her.

Q. Do you recall an arrangement between Ms. Scheff and Diane Lucchetti?

A. Yes.

Q. What was that arrangement?

A. I believe .. . . .the way it was set up what that Sue and Diane were working together and at some point I believe they were sharing referrals......

Q. Did Ms. Scheff ask for your assistance in getting paid for those referrals?

A. I believe she did, uh-huh.............

KEVIN RICHEY EXPLAINS THAT HE LEFT IN DECEMBER 2001 AND THAT SUE SCHEFF WAS A REFERRING PARENT FOR OVER A YEAR TO WWASP.

NOW LISTEN TO THIS DRUM ROLL......................

Q. Prior to the time that you left Teen Help, do you recall Ms. Scheff explaining to you about her daughter's treatment at Carolina Springs?

A. I don't remember that.

Q. Prior to that time (before Kevin Richey left WWASP's Teen Help), do you recall Ms. Scheff complaining of any complaints of World Wide schools?

A. I don't recall any.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? IT MEANS MIZZIE SUE SCHEFF THOUGHT WWASP WAS WONDERFUL AND SHE SAID SO. GREAT PLACE THAT WWASP ACCORDING TO SUE SCHEFF UNTIL SHE COULD NO LONGER CON PAYMENTS FROM WWASP FOR KIDS SHE HAD OTHER REFERRING ON HER PYRAMID SCHEME.

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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: R. Hinton and S. Scheff, all lovey dovey  

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http://web.archive.org/web/200103120118 ... ences.html

"Teen Help is a marketing group that has provided many Specialty Schools with thousands of students who are in need of help. We are a service that educates and helps parents with their students transition from home to the facility. Our doors have been open for eleven years to assist any parent in need of our help.

P.U.R.E. has been and is a valuable asset to Teen Help. Its experts are very successful with the Parent Referral Program, and have educated many parents in the referral process. P.U.R.E. has presented our Specialty Schools as an alternative for many parents, Therapists, Doctors, Guidance Counselors, District Attorneys, School Districts, and Probation Officers.

Parents Universal Referral Experts have had first hand experience with Carolina Springs Academy. They has toured the facility, met the staff, and know the ins and outs of the program. Their first hand experience has eased the minds of many parents in the admissions process."

Sincerely,


Randall Hinton
Teen Help Admissions

NOTE:  This appears to have been posted on PURE website in early 2001
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« Reply #756 on: June 29, 2007, 10:02:39 PM »
Ouch sorry sandy following this thread at times has been a bit of a migraine.

Would you care to answer a few questions from me though?

I promise to play nice and share my toys.
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« Reply #757 on: June 29, 2007, 10:10:42 PM »
Ain't it grand?  I just love it when these little diamonds in the rough show up on Fornits.  Nothing like taking a stroll down memory lane - nightmarish journey that it may be for some folks like those mentioned in these court transcripts and emails ... but alas .. such is life.  What goes around comes around.  My advice is don't step into the chit unless ya got your wading boots on.

 :lol:

This one's for you Izzy ... just in case you really do care about Layne Brown's passing a year ago and how he was apparently treated by your bosum buddy Sue Scheff.

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject:    

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You know, for a long time, I had an uncomfortable notion that maybe Sue was protecting Hinton. From what, you might ask? Well, possibly, from the consequences of the abuse he inflicted upon Layne. Why would I think so, you might ask? Well, its difficult to explain. But it was as if Sue held an undercurrent of hostility toward Layne. It was not overt in any way. But there was always an effort on her part to exclude him. For example - back when there were efforts to contact parents and kids about the CA law suit - she was opposed to telling Layne anything about it. She insisted his statue of limitation had run and that telling him about it would only frustrate him. (wrong) She expressed other concerns having to do with his fragile mental health. (wouldn't getting some measure of justice Help, not Hurt?) I decided to ignore her concerns, and told him about it.

There were other occasions, involving journalist, where Sue seemed hostile to bringing Layne in on it. Again, nothing strongly overt - but just a discouragement from doing so - a "concern" it might not be beneficial.

It always nagged at me - Why was she hostile to the idea of letting this young man be part of an attempt to achieve some measure of justice? I knew she had at one time worked with Hinton. I didn't know it had been during the time she was operating PURE. But I did wonder, if she were helping him keep his ass covered.

For awhile Layne was trying to find out where Hinton was. I think he was hoping there could be charges brought for his crimes, if he could be found. I noticed that reporters sometimes quoted anon sources, who had worked from the Program, and who appeared to be Hinton - and wondered how the reporters were finding him. One reporter did confirm to me he had interviewed Hinton, but he would not tell me where he was. I now suspect that when it suited her - Sue provided the reporters with his whereabouts and contact info. But if she had it, she never offered this info to Layne.

Shifty sort of fence she sits on, isn't it?

http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... inton+pure
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« Reply #758 on: June 29, 2007, 10:14:51 PM »
Jesus.. Toxic just reading that.

anyway to Sandy:

I'd like to hear from you about your experiences with Tranquility Bay. I started an open thread with some questions on it. Please feel free to answer them if you feel up to it. My forum was designed for just that questions and answers to keep the flame baiting down to a minimum. Actually its the only place on fornits were I'm well behaved at all times.

http://http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=22110

Again I'd really like to hear your side of the TB story.
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« Reply #759 on: June 29, 2007, 10:20:01 PM »
Suddenly... all the trolls are silenced... I wonder what happend... ... I can hear screams of "IZZZZZYYYY  FIX THISSSSS" from here.
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Benchmark Young Adult School - bad place [archive.org link]
Sue Scheff Truth - Blog on Sue Scheff
"Our services are free; we do not make a profit. Parents of troubled teens ourselves, PURE strives to create a safe haven of truth and reality." - Sue Scheff - August 13th, 2007 (fukkin surreal)

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« Reply #760 on: June 29, 2007, 10:27:55 PM »
lols.. yeah.. but hey you said you were going to sod off for an hour or two....

 :flame:  :flame:  :flame:

GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO!
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« Reply #761 on: June 29, 2007, 10:45:08 PM »
Well, it is kind of hard to argue the facts when apparently, all ya got is a bag full of empty"excuses".

My guess is the Izzy Defense ran out of decoys and she's probably preparing either a Mea Culpa blog or still not willing to cry Uncle, perhaps working on the Great Conspiracy Against Caica report.   :rofl:

Either way, it seems the party really is over.  SIGH ... what's for dessert?
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empty arguments
« Reply #762 on: June 30, 2007, 12:38:06 AM »
Ya' All got such an empty argument.  Who cares who referred who.  When does someone design a plan to stop this Horse crap!!!

You spend more hours in a day argueing over empty drama.  When will any of you ever make a difference and stand for the kids and parents that are sucked into this crap now!!!
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« Reply #763 on: June 30, 2007, 01:12:53 AM »
Not Buying It - why are you here?  Izzy's Pity Party was shut down by the Fornits Truth Squad about 50 pages ago.

May I recommend you return to the index page where you will find many other topics to engage your interest?  

Thanks and have a good evening.
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why?? good question
« Reply #764 on: June 30, 2007, 01:22:11 AM »
why are you here?

because it's time something is done to stop the crap happening to these families!!!
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